Damn Usher burning ladies out here.

[SolemnSauce]

Dead at niggaz having the Herpies finger..nigga going on dates in the summer wit gloves on like he a hit man

 

[twenty2]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Tell us the "harm" that Herpes causes then. In detail.

It's painful and it looks ugly. That's as much harm as acne or a boil.

Herpes is only dangerous if you are

1. Immunicompromised (advanced HIV, chemotherapy or genetic disease that fucks withyour immune system). If you're immunocompromised it can become disseminated and cause meningitis, cerebritis or blood infections. Same danger as shingles or any other bacterial infection.

2. Pregnant: your fetus can become infected if you have an outbreak during pregnancy or birth. Same danger as BV, gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Beyond that the only "harm" HSV causes is the psychological harm inflicted on millions of people who don't have anything more serious than mono and are forced to live their whole lives in shame.

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Just a reminder not to get caught up in the hype. We are conditioned to believe what certain powers want us to believe, and its not always in our best interest. How many people you know think or thought weed is the devils lettuce that leads to serious drug abuse? Same concept of conditioning the minds of the masses.

I think it's clear we are speaking from 2 different aspects and to different populations....

I am speaking to the majority who are having irresponsible sex...right...because the disease is transmitted primarily through unprotected intercourse between two people having sex for the first time right? One night stands right?

Not a long term monogamous boyfriend and girl or even girlfriend girlfriend or boyfriend boyfriend relationship , not dentist doing dental work, not touching door handles, as you stated ,sexually is the most COMMON way it is spread...why are we speaking to the minority when the majority is the problem??

And you are speaking to the super minority dentist who are doing dental work, the boy or girl who gets cheated on even though they remain faithful, or the dirty door knob....a very very small population...

And @kat I feel you but I really can't see the importance behind making the herp negatively stigmatized and maybe that's intended but people have to be more sexually responsible and health conscious...getting tested for everything regularly....health is wealth

This is what it boils down to. Usher should've told the chick he had that shit. The chick should've asked him to strap up. If he was Usher Raymond her co-worker, I'm pretty sure she would have asked him.

You a grown man and you think you can't get herpes with a condom on

Get out

Never said you couldn't get it with a condom on. However using one may reduce the risk of transmission. My whole point was about being sexually responsible on both sides. If she knew/he told her, I'm certain she wouldn't have had sex. FOH

Nah... THIS broad wasn't that smart. On The Breakfast Club they said ole girl noticed a greenish discharge oozin out of dude's joint...asked him about it...he swore he was clean............AND SHE CARRIED ON WITH THE TRYST!!! This apparently went on for a while until she started showin symptoms...

 

[onetoughmiracle]

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Tell us the "harm" that Herpes causes then. In detail.

It's painful and it looks ugly. That's as much harm as acne or a boil.

Herpes is only dangerous if you are

1. Immunicompromised (advanced HIV, chemotherapy or genetic disease that fucks withyour immune system). If you're immunocompromised it can become disseminated and cause meningitis, cerebritis or blood infections. Same danger as shingles or any other bacterial infection.

2. Pregnant: your fetus can become infected if you have an outbreak during pregnancy or birth. Same danger as BV, gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Beyond that the only "harm" HSV causes is the psychological harm inflicted on millions of people who don't have anything more serious than mono and are forced to live their whole lives in shame.

lol herpes is harmless huh....

Y'all funny asf...this really is....the ic.....

Just a reminder not to get caught up in the hype. We are conditioned to believe what certain powers want us to believe, and its not always in our best interest. How many people you know think or thought weed is the devils lettuce that leads to serious drug abuse? Same concept of conditioning the minds of the masses.

I think it's clear we are speaking from 2 different aspects and to different populations....

I am speaking to the majority who are having irresponsible sex...right...because the disease is transmitted primarily through unprotected intercourse between two people having sex for the first time right? One night stands right?

Not a long term monogamous boyfriend and girl or even girlfriend girlfriend or boyfriend boyfriend relationship , not dentist doing dental work, not touching door handles, as you stated ,sexually is the most COMMON way it is spread...why are we speaking to the minority when the majority is the problem??

And you are speaking to the super minority dentist who are doing dental work, the boy or girl who gets cheated on even though they remain faithful, or the dirty door knob....a very very small population...

And @kat I feel you but I really can't see the importance behind making the herp negatively stigmatized and maybe that's intended but people have to be more sexually responsible and health conscious...getting tested for everything regularly....health is wealth

This is what it boils down to. Usher should've told the chick he had that shit. The chick should've asked him to strap up. If he was Usher Raymond her co-worker, I'm pretty sure she would have asked him.

You a grown man and you think you can't get herpes with a condom on

Get out

Never said you couldn't get it with a condom on. However using one may reduce the risk of transmission. My whole point was about being sexually responsible on both sides. If she knew/he told her, I'm certain she wouldn't have had sex. FOH

Nah... THIS broad wasn't that smart. On The Breakfast Club they said ole girl noticed a greenish discharge oozin out of dude's joint...asked him about it...he swore he was clean............AND SHE CARRIED ON WITH THE TRYST!!! This apparently went on for a while until she started showin symptoms...

 

[bambu]

So much drama over bullshit. Might as well say having acne is life ruining:
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa8nb/did-big-pharma-create-the-herpes-stigma-for-profit

Ok "I got the herp" post

Ain't no just acne bih

Keep drinking that corporately-created, artificial panic laden Kool Aid. We have evidence herpes infections have existed since Roman times yet the stigma associated with it dates to the 1970s...right about the time the first antiviral meds against it began to be heavily marketed towards the general population. Coincidence? Hmmmm

The prevalence of herpesvirus in humans is endemic. The World Health Organization estimates two thirds of the world's population under the age of 50 have it:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/herpes/en/

Judging by pure mathematical odds most of the posters here in the IC have it...but of course looking through this thread you'd think this was the only population on Earth untouched by herpes viruses.

And I say "viruses" because it's a family. A family that includes shit like the Zoster virus that causes shingles. But I guarantee none of you would be clowning Usher if he has a shingles outbreak, even though the virus that causes it is almost it's genetic cousin. Shit, when my patients had shingle attacks I treated them with the same exact medication I prescribed for genital herpes attacks: Valacyclovir.

HSV stigma is a purely manufactured social panic. 90% of the people that have it show no signs or symptoms. It's literally only dangerous if you're immunosupressed or if you have an outbreak during pregnancy. Gonorrhea and chlamydia are a 100 times more destructive yet not treated with near this same amount of fear.

Acne is a perfect analogue: it's an often painful skin disease caused by the overgrowth of a microbe (Propionibacterium acnes) in hair follicles, it's prevalence in young people is near 90% and we just accept it as a given that everyone at some point had it:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjd.12149/abstract;jsessionid=83CBB425CC30408D7FE49727490376DF.f04t02

I just described HSV. Yet one is universally stigmatized while the other, even though it has about the same level of health risk, is not. Explain this silliness to me.

Signed: a medical doctor who treats sexual illnesses and is tired of patients thinking their lives are over because of a misguided cultural bullshit.

So why are people able to sue for damages????

 

[Preach2Teach]

so how can they prove they got it from him if its a widely infectious disease?

Came in here to ask this exact question they can't prove shit! Usher needs to get a better lawyer how the fuck is he giving slut's settlement money? the flood gates are now open, America is crazy as fuck.

 

[blackrain]

Remember years back someone posted a list of rumored celebs to have herpes or an untreatable std? I want to say usher was on that list. I know Janet was.

The Derek Jeter herpes tree... jessicaa alba all the,way to d wade ..

Nah it's the Paris Hilton herpes tree

thats that shit i dont understand...these "celebrity" mfs STAY fuckin with the same people..like, they constantly have the same 7 chicks or whatever in rotation in the celebrity pool...its 6237562347328947823948 people out there and they wanna pass these fukkas around like blunts and shit.

Because they view women as status symbols. Same reason why niggas come into the rap game and end up fucking the same chick 5 other rappers had on their arm before. You feel like in order to validate your spot you need to have this chick you saw another nigga with money and status with.

 

[Koltrain]

These hoes be willing to fuck celebs raw in hopes they get that 18 year check... Even to the point of ignoring green ooze coming out the d...that's some sick shit and she shares the blame for her condition..

 

[Figo]

a lot of these fine broads be carrying plenty sexual diseases out chyea.

by the way, cleveland cavs lost, twice.

 

[Qiv_Owan]

so how can they prove they got it from him if its a widely infectious disease?

Came in here to ask this exact question they can't prove shit! Usher needs to get a better lawyer how the fuck is he giving slut's settlement money? the flood gates are now open, America is crazy as fuck.

Mutations

Every time an std is passed along it mutates but still stays true to the source...so when she got it she couldve got it matched with his strain

Thats the heavily condensed version but yea

 

[blackgod813]

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

All I see is a bunch of uneducated bullshit.

I don't need you to tell me "why" HSV is stigmatized. I know why. My entire argument was that it SHOULDN'T be stigmatized because HSV is 1. relatively harmless 2. incredibly common and 3. Associated with a behavior that EVERYONE practices.

This song and dance that "only nasty motherfuckers" get it is exactly STDs are at epidemic levels in this country. Niggaz think only "nasty ass" people have it, meet a "nice looking" girl or boy, fuck'em raw and then get the Dick Ooze a week later and wonder "what are the odds!!!!"

You can get Herp after only one time. Ain't no "magic number" of raw coochs you gotta hit to get it. I've treated grandmas with it...schoolgirls...Muslim chicks...other doctors. There's no discrimination. Most of them weren't "nasty" motherfuckers.

Stigmatizing the herp because you get it from sex is also asinine because it's not limited to sexual activity at all. It's just the most common way it gets spread.

You can get it in your fingers (Herpetic Whitlow):

...and not just from fingering "dirty bitches" either. Dentists are famous for getting it in their fingers from tiny cuts they get while working.

You can get herpes in your body from contact sports like wrestling...it's called Herpes

gladiatorum:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_gladiatorum

Quick: you think dudes should be able to sue wrestling opponents when they get herpes in their backs and necks after a bout? Would you dump your girl if she got herpes in her finger?

You think condoms protect you from herpes? They don't. They just reduce the risk. You can get herpes at any point your skin touches infected skin...this means you can get herpes in the base of your cock, your taint and in your balls since no condoms cover those areas:

You keep saying shit like "anyone who says it's a skin condition has the herp" as if it's some smart, clever shit obliviously missing the point that YOU probably have that shit. I probably have it. Most Americans have it. Specially if you Black since blacks have much higher rates of herpes than whites or Hispanics. By some estimates as much as 48% of all black women are infected with HSV:
http://yourblackworld.net/2012/08/31/cdc-nearly-half-of-all-black-women-have-genital-herpes/

You ready to give up fucking with half of all

Black women? Didn't think so.

But that's not why I'm posting this shit. I'm posting it because this is what I did for years: educating ignorant ass people about sexual infections. From the looks of this board my work is not yet done.

Fuk yes i am ready to do that an burn the infected

 

[King_MOEbra]

a lot of these fine broads be carrying plenty sexual diseases out chyea.

by the way, cleveland cavs lost, twice.

Aye, fuck you!

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Remember years back someone posted a list of rumored celebs to have herpes or an untreatable std? I want to say usher was on that list. I know Janet was.

The Derek Jeter herpes tree... jessicaa alba all the,way to d wade ..

Nah it's the Paris Hilton herpes tree

thats that shit i dont understand...these "celebrity" mfs STAY fuckin with the same people..like, they constantly have the same 7 chicks or whatever in rotation in the celebrity pool...its 6237562347328947823948 people out there and they wanna pass these fukkas around like blunts and shit.

Because they view women as status symbols. Same reason why niggas come into the rap game and end up fucking the same chick 5 other rappers had on their arm before. You feel like in order to validate your spot you need to have this chick you saw another nigga with money and status with.

this has always been my problem with this...

all these groupies and niggas gotta smash the same one...

nah....im ok.

just tell me the story and thats enough

 

[2stepz_ahead]

sooooo..

who been in the scum bag thread lately?

at least 80% of them niggas got it

 

[Mr.LV]

sooooo..

who been in the scum bag thread lately?

at least 80% of them niggas got it

Bruh I read a story on there where someone ran into 3 different women on pof that had herpes,shits real out here.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

So....I'm curious.

Niggas always bragging about smashing tons of hoes.....but song nobody got nothing?

The numbers don't add up.

Oh wait......this the IC

 

[Fosheezy]

You see man....This is my problem with you "I'm educated" ass niggas....you a doctor but need me to explain it to you why it is that herpes is stigmatized and hsv isn't...see what I'm sayin...

Now in your explanation you compared herpes to shingles because they are viruses...but that's apples and oranges because the issue lies in how one catches or contracts these viruses not the virus itself....the clap and gono are stigmatized for the same reasons as well...you gotta be a nasty dirty mfer to catch these shits...you gotta be out here raw doggin and getting raw dogged...now no that's not how everybody catches it and there are cases where women and men have caught it from cheating partners but I am willing to bet that , that is not the norm...I'm willing to bet more people catch these viruses by being sexually irresponsible...

So in conclusion those viruses are stigmatized because of the way these diseases are caught (the norm not the exception, the exception is being faithful in a committed relationship to a cheating partner) shit mono has the same stigma attached to it ...

Only herpes carriers be like "it's just a skin condition"

Foh nigga

All I see is a bunch of uneducated bullshit.

I don't need you to tell me "why" HSV is stigmatized. I know why. My entire argument was that it SHOULDN'T be stigmatized because HSV is 1. relatively harmless 2. incredibly common and 3. Associated with a behavior that EVERYONE practices.

This song and dance that "only nasty motherfuckers" get it is exactly STDs are at epidemic levels in this country. Niggaz think only "nasty ass" people have it, meet a "nice looking" girl or boy, fuck'em raw and then get the Dick Ooze a week later and wonder "what are the odds!!!!"

You can get Herp after only one time. Ain't no "magic number" of raw coochs you gotta hit to get it. I've treated grandmas with it...schoolgirls...Muslim chicks...other doctors. There's no discrimination. Most of them weren't "nasty" motherfuckers.

Stigmatizing the herp because you get it from sex is also asinine because it's not limited to sexual activity at all. It's just the most common way it gets spread.

You can get it in your fingers (Herpetic Whitlow):

Spoiler

...and not just from fingering "dirty bitches" either. Dentists are famous for getting it in their fingers from tiny cuts they get while working.

You can get herpes in your body from contact sports like wrestling...it's called Herpes

gladiatorum:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_gladiatorum

Quick: you think dudes should be able to sue wrestling opponents when they get herpes in their backs and necks after a bout? Would you dump your girl if she got herpes in her finger?

You think condoms protect you from herpes? They don't. They just reduce the risk. You can get herpes at any point your skin touches infected skin...this means you can get herpes in the base of your cock, your taint and in your balls since no condoms cover those areas:

Spoiler

You keep saying shit like "anyone who says it's a skin condition has the herp" as if it's some smart, clever shit obliviously missing the point that YOU probably have that shit. I probably have it. Most Americans have it. Specially if you Black since blacks have much higher rates of herpes than whites or Hispanics. By some estimates as much as 48% of all black women are infected with HSV:

Spoiler

http://yourblackworld.net/2012/08/31/cdc-nearly-half-of-all-black-women-have-genital-herpes/

You ready to give up fucking with half of all

Black women? Didn't think so.

But that's not why I'm posting this shit. I'm posting it because this is what I did for years: educating ignorant ass people about sexual infections. From the looks of this board my work is not yet done.

You made ya point, without the pics, yeesh. While you may be helping educate the misinformed on how the condition is spread, how does the above post help make a case for it being over-stigmatized? "It's over-stigmatized, guys, you can catch it anytime, anywhere. here, look at these fucked up pictures to prove it." lol.

I don't know if you realize you using extremes to make your point. A lot of the photos of STDs or ANY condition for that matter on the net show the worst of the worst. I mean, you can just Google gingivitis for example and look at some of those photos. Now I had mild case of gingivitis before and that shit NEVER looked nowhere close to the photos I'm finding. Over-stigmatizing most likely comes from the fact the average person takes worse case scenarios to be the average case. Average or most cases of hsv probably look way less extreme or severe than anything in those photos.

Plus, you only giving one side of the coin. The fact that anyone COULD be infected isn't proof that they WERE or most likely WILL be infected. I'm sure there are stories all over the net of couples where one partner has both or one types of HSV, neither partner is taking meds, the couples have unprotected sex (except when experiencing symptoms) and NEVER passed it on to their partner. That the condition seems to be so easily transmitted in promiscuous celeb circles probably have less to do with the virus itself and more to do with these mfs personal hygiene. Niggas be drinking, doing drugs, lacking vitamins and doing a bunch of other shit and living unhealthy lifestyles that increase their risk to a bunch of stuff.

 

[Lurkristocrat]

LOL at 10million lawsuit for catchin herpes

I would actually consider injecting myself with an AIDs needle for 10mill

Huh

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

So....I'm curious.

Niggas always bragging about smashing tons of hoes.....but song nobody got nothing?

The numbers don't add up.

Oh wait......this the IC

They smash SINGLE HOES. 90 % of the time UNDER INFLUENCE.

STDs and HIV are never far from DRUGGS AND ALCOHOL and POVERTY.

There is a big difference between having access to a woman that will shower, empty her asshole, parfume it and LISTERINE her mouth up and wash her pussy before having sex in a clean place and licking asshole of women that have stayed for 6 hours in the club SWEATING and having not showered themselves since 9 hours.

Thats where niggas start licking asscrack full of BACTERIA that are all over her puss and ass. Thats where bitches get niggas fingers full of bacteria, sometimes get cut by uncut nails.

BUT HOW CAN YOU CHECK ALL THESE DETAILS WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK AND IN A HURRY TO NUT

BEHIND THE TRASH AREA

IN THE CLUB TOILET

ON A CAR SEAT?

Nobody is safe. Your S/o can just come back home with these infections.

Yet when you multiply the odds of catching it ...

 

[blackrain]

Remember years back someone posted a list of rumored celebs to have herpes or an untreatable std? I want to say usher was on that list. I know Janet was.

The Derek Jeter herpes tree... jessicaa alba all the,way to d wade ..

Nah it's the Paris Hilton herpes tree

thats that shit i dont understand...these "celebrity" mfs STAY fuckin with the same people..like, they constantly have the same 7 chicks or whatever in rotation in the celebrity pool...its 6237562347328947823948 people out there and they wanna pass these fukkas around like blunts and shit.

Because they view women as status symbols. Same reason why niggas come into the rap game and end up fucking the same chick 5 other rappers had on their arm before. You feel like in order to validate your spot you need to have this chick you saw another nigga with money and status with.

this has always been my problem with this...

all these groupies and niggas gotta smash the same one...

nah....im ok.

just tell me the story and thats enough

Those are niggas who are fucking for the approval of other niggas. If they weren't they wouldn't be chasing the same women.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Remember years back someone posted a list of rumored celebs to have herpes or an untreatable std? I want to say usher was on that list. I know Janet was.

The Derek Jeter herpes tree... jessicaa alba all the,way to d wade ..

Nah it's the Paris Hilton herpes tree

thats that shit i dont understand...these "celebrity" mfs STAY fuckin with the same people..like, they constantly have the same 7 chicks or whatever in rotation in the celebrity pool...its 6237562347328947823948 people out there and they wanna pass these fukkas around like blunts and shit.

Because they view women as status symbols. Same reason why niggas come into the rap game and end up fucking the same chick 5 other rappers had on their arm before. You feel like in order to validate your spot you need to have this chick you saw another nigga with money and status with.

this has always been my problem with this...

all these groupies and niggas gotta smash the same one...

nah....im ok.

just tell me the story and thats enough

Those are niggas who are fucking for the approval of other niggas. If they weren't they wouldn't be chasing the same women.

Sad.

so niggas secretly comparing each other by smashing the same chick. and then want to be approved by a nigga who already smashed.

just sad.

smdh