Couple of christianity questions

[Dupac]

I just like discussing religion. a lot of these questions u cant really ask u preacher or if u do u get the same biblical type answers instead of the real. I really couldnt discuss this type of stuff with older family members cuz they would get defensive and mad. when u go thru stuff and prayed and nothing happened u have questions

that's where i strongly disagree...

and that's why i keep telling yall about bible college...

every preacher/pastor/reverand isn't the same....

some are extremely down to earth, some have absolutely no problems keeping it realistic, logical and all that...

a lot of them came from shady backgrounds, and have personally witnessed a chain of events bringing them to the point they're at in life, and use their experinces as a walking testamonie....

sooooo many ppl get caugfht uo in the correuption of a few that they miss out on the reallness ang geunie expernices of those that are really ehre to help ppl with the same struggles they once been throguh themselves...

a lot more people need to understand that it's verypossible a certain church or preacher may not be the one for them, and they need to move around until they find the enviorment that best suits their religious pursuit...

anyone with the questions in life that are posed in this thgread really do not belong in a old fashion church on sunday mornings where there's nothign but a lotta shouting and no real learning taking place.....

i really wish all of yall could have done what i did to get back into church, but all i can continue to tell u is how it wokred for me and hope that some of theose who have the questions and desires get something from waht i type...

find a teachging church, a pator who has regular classes where the word is taugh along with questions being asked..

anmd find a pastor who is willing to talk to u on the level where it will actualy sink, and u feel comfortable that yall really having a constructive conversation on the matters...

trust me it makes a difference

 

[aneed123]

exactly. just because i dont have a firm stance on it, doesnt mean i cant discuss it. plus, i dont try to convince anyone.

like aneed said, if i tried asking these questions in church i'd be banned

lol I used to be the kid in sunday school asking where are the dinosaurs in the bible and how he feed all those people with 2 fish and bread it dont make sense. they ust got mad and told my mom and I got a whoopin lol

 

[Dupac]

exactly. just because i dont have a firm stance on it, doesnt mean i cant discuss it. plus, i dont try to convince anyone.

like aneed said, if i tried asking these questions in church i'd be banned

not true at all, read post #137

 

[blackrain]

exactly. just because i dont have a firm stance on it, doesnt mean i cant discuss it. plus, i dont try to convince anyone.

like aneed said, if i tried asking these questions in church i'd be banned

you can find these answers on your own...I went to a Catholic School all my life until the end of 10th grade and even in that "never question God" environment I read and figured out the answers to alot of questions I had on my own or I simply asked other people...but there's a difference in asking because you want to know and asking ebcause you want hear how silly of an answer you can get out of somebody

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

lol I used to be the kid in sunday school asking where are the dinosaurs in the bible and how he feed all those people with 2 fish and bread it dont make sense. they ust got mad and told my mom and I got a whoopin lol

when i was in junior high school i asked a minister how come the dinosaurs werent in the bible.

he said dinosaur fossils were really "the bones of giant chickens and other animals" from the time of Adam.

dude seriously told me that chickens used to be 40 feet tall before sin.

 

[aneed123]

that's where i strongly disagree...
and that's why i keep telling yall about bible college...

every preacher/pastor/reverand isn't the same....

some are extremely down to earth, some have absolutely no problems keeping it realistic, logical and all that...
a lot of them came from shady backgrounds, and have personally witnessed a chain of events bringing them to the point they're at in life, and use their experinces as a walking testamonie....

sooooo many ppl get caugfht uo in the correuption of a few that they miss out on the reallness ang geunie expernices of those that are really ehre to help ppl with the same struggles they once been throguh themselves...

a lot more people need to understand that it's verypossible a certain church or preacher may not be the one for them, and they need to move around until they find the enviorment that best suits their religious pursuit...

anyone with the questions in life that are posed in this thgread really do not belong in a old fashion church on sunday mornings where there's nothign but a lotta shouting and no real learning taking place.....

i really wish all of yall could have done what i did to get back into church, but all i can continue to tell u is how it wokred for me and hope that some of theose who have the questions and desires get something from waht i type...

find a teachging church, a pator who has regular classes where the word is taugh along with questions being asked..

anmd find a pastor who is willing to talk to u on the level where it will actualy sink, and u feel comfortable that yall really having a constructive conversation on the matters...

trust me it makes a difference

i wanna hear the preacher tell the congregation the real truth. good folk will die. u can pray about it til u blue in the face but nothing will change it. fucked up shit happens just use faith to deal with it. aint no one ever come back from the dead to tell us what heaven or hell is like. look at this scenerio

family prays for traveling grace as they travel. they arrive safely (thanks God for allowing them to travel safely)
passes a family that has a flat tire (thanks god for them not having one)
family has a wreck but no one gets hurt (god is good he kept us safe)
all this is good right but say they have a wreck cuz they were hit by a drunk driver on the way killing everyone but the child. (Is that Gods will?) thank God for saving the child but everyone else who were Christians died?
The real is that in life fucked up shit happens. faith and religion are key aspects in helping you keep your sanity and deal/ cope with it. I believe in a GOD/ULTIMATE POWER. but teh whole religion/church aspect of it I struggle with

 

[Dupac]

i wanna hear the preacher tell the congregation the real truth. good folk will die. u can pray about it til u blue in the face but nothing will change it. fucked up shit happens just use faith to deal with it. aint no one ever come back from the dead to tell us what heaven or hell is like. look at this scenerio

family prays for traveling grace as they travel. they arrive safely (thanks God for allowing them to travel safely)

passes a family that has a flat tire (thanks god for them not having one)

family has a wreck but no one gets hurt (god is good he kept us safe)

all this is good right but say they have a wreck cuz they were hit by a drunk driver on the way killing everyone but the child. (Is that Gods will?) thank God for saving the child but everyone else who were Christians died?

The real is that in life fucked up shit happens. faith and religion are key aspects in helping you keep your sanity and deal/ cope with it. I believe in a GOD/ULTIMATE POWER. but teh whole religion/church aspect of it I struggle with

i swear, everytime my pastor does a funeral..i think somsone is just gonna zap out...cuz he goes HARD... and i mean HARD....

i really think all yall would really benefit in life if yall joined a church like mines

 

[Dick Shitman]

when i was in junior high school i asked a minister how come the dinosaurs werent in the bible.

he said dinosaur fossils were really "the bones of giant chickens and other animals" from the time of Adam.

dude seriously told me that chickens used to be 40 feet tall before sin.

damn...adam and eve was eatin good like a muhfucka

 

[aneed123]

i swear, everytime my pastor does a funeral..i think somsone is just gonna zap out...cuz he goes HARD... and i mean HARD....

i really think all yall would really benefit in life if yall joined a church like mines

maybe I do. I just look at it as live life as a good person cuz we all got morals and know right from wrong and hopefully ull have more good than bad happen to u.

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

damn...adam and eve was eatin good like a muhfucka

can you imagine how many niggas you could feed with a 40 foot long chicken thigh

 

[Dick Shitman]

can you imagine how many niggas you could feed with a 40 foot long chicken thigh

well a couple of fish samiches fed thousands. the whole hood coulda ate off that chicken though

 

[Dick Shitman]

what denom is your church, du?

 

[Dupac]

maybe I do. I just look at it as live life as a good person cuz we all got morals and know right from wrong and hopefully ull have more good than bad happen to u.

my pastor broke it down like a plug in a wall....

when ur plugged in your connected, and you serve your purpose, but when ur not lugged in... you just exist....your still designed to do what ur here to do.. but unles your plugged in you'll never serve your true purpose...

and his purpose in life, is to help as many ppl get plugged in as possible.....

 

[blackrain]

i wanna hear the preacher tell the congregation the real truth. good folk will die. u can pray about it til u blue in the face but nothing will change it. fucked up shit happens just use faith to deal with it. aint no one ever come back from the dead to tell us what heaven or hell is like. look at this scenerio

family prays for traveling grace as they travel. they arrive safely (thanks God for allowing them to travel safely)
passes a family that has a flat tire (thanks god for them not having one)
family has a wreck but no one gets hurt (god is good he kept us safe)
all this is good right but say they have a wreck cuz they were hit by a drunk driver on the way killing everyone but the child. (Is that Gods will?) thank God for saving the child but everyone else who were Christians died?
The real is that in life fucked up shit happens. faith and religion are key aspects in helping you keep your sanity and deal/ cope with it. I believe in a GOD/ULTIMATE POWER. but teh whole religion/church aspect of it I struggle with

sounds like you would've benefited from hearing my dad talk religion...he always was open and honest about his opinions on things in the Bible and about Catholicism...negative and positive...part of the reason now why I look at religion the way I do

 

[Dupac]

what denom is your church, du?

technically we're baptist....

but i don't think we run like a traditional baptist church....it's a whole different experince all together forreal....

but i'll stick with baptist

 

[American Loo VII 3D]

my pastor broke it down like a plug in a wall....

when ur plugged in your connected, and you serve your purpose, but when ur not lugged in... you just exist....your still designed to do what ur here to do.. but unles your plugged in you'll never serve your true purpose...

and his purpose in life, is to help as many ppl get plugged in as possible.....

So your pastor is Morpheus?

 

[Dupac]

So your pastor is Morpheus?

moprpheus was unplugging them

 

[edwardnigma]

I question any grown man who really looks to their pastor for answers. I bet that pastor is looking at you like your an idiot but he has to make his bread, so he thumps some scripture at you. If you can't respect that religon is a hustle then you need to grow up.

 

[Dupac]

I question any grown man who really looks to their pastor for answers. I bet that pastor is looking at you like your an idiot but he has to make his bread, so he thumps some scripture at you. If you can't respect that religon is a hustle then you need to grow up.

ur a smart dude, but this is a foolsih statement....

i mean i agree that a persons pastor isn't supposed to be their salvation, but there is nothing wrong to look for a pastor to help guide you on the correct track....

all pastors aren't crooks and conmen,

some take their position in life very seriously and dedicate their lives to bringing people closer to God...

if you can't respect that.. then that's on you

 

[Shuffington]

some of ya'll really do seem like you're searching for answers to finally have something to believe in...if I didn't believe in God, whether I actually do or not isn't the point, but if I didn't believe God exists I wouldn't dedicate 1 second of my life to trying to understand why people do believe in him...it's pointless because your mind is already made up, nothing anybody can tell you about God is going to convince you he exists...either you believe it or you don't...

Me personally , this is the most fascinating part about religion and the god concept... its like, Mind manipulation to the highest degree. Very intriguing.