Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

[1CK1S]

Welp somebody find Boomer Esiason and knock him the f*ck out!!!

Boomer Esiason on Kaepernick: "It's About As Disrespectful As Any Athlete Has Ever Been"

Colin Kaepernick says he'll continue to sit for the national anthem until he feels that the "flag represents what it's supposed to represent in this country." As you might expect, this has set off a firestorm of criticism from every corner of the internet.

The latest to weigh in: CBS Sports NFL studio analyst and former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, who is wholly unimpressed with the 49ers quarterback.

"I cannot say it in the strongest, most direct way, that it's an embarrassment and it's about as disrespectful as any athlete has ever been," [Esiason said at a CBS event Tuesday in New York, via NewsDay's Bob Glauber. "And I don't care what the cause is. The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."

"He is severely under-informed, and I welcome him to go ride in a cop car and take numerous 911 calls, going into places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences. Put on that blue (police) uniform and put the shield on and see what it's like to put your life in harm's way every single day, and then get back to me when you're making $35,000 or $40,000 a year, as opposed to the $11 million he's making."

Esiason says his issue isn't with Kaepernick's message but where he chooses to deliver it.

"It's an NFL football field, and he's wearing an NFL uniform. At the end of the day, if he wants to do it in a news conference, if he wants to do it and talk about it at the ESPY's and talk about it at an event he's having, more power to him. Those are the places you should be doing it, like LeBron James is doing it, like Carmelo Anthony is hoping to do it.

"But if Carmelo Anthony walks on the court in a Knicks uniform and starts in with this, I think it's going to create a lot of problems," he said. "I don't think it's their right to do it on a court which a team pays them millions of dollars to perform a job. I find it completely disrespectful, not only to the military, but to the men and women who wear the blue uniform and protect our cities every -- day."

 

[northside7]

I still remember that bust up him and deion had some years back about his son not knowing what crack cocaine was. Deion was truly shocked lol.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Welp somebody find Boomer Esiason and knock him the f*ck out!!!

Boomer Esiason on Kaepernick: "It's About As Disrespectful As Any Athlete Has Ever Been"

Colin Kaepernick says he'll continue to sit for the national anthem until he feels that the "flag represents what it's supposed to represent in this country." As you might expect, this has set off a firestorm of criticism from every corner of the internet.

The latest to weigh in: CBS Sports NFL studio analyst and former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, who is wholly unimpressed with the 49ers quarterback.

"I cannot say it in the strongest, most direct way, that it's an embarrassment and it's about as disrespectful as any athlete has ever been," [Esiason said at a CBS event Tuesday in New York, via NewsDay's Bob Glauber. "And I don't care what the cause is. The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."

"He is severely under-informed, and I welcome him to go ride in a cop car and take numerous 911 calls, going into places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences. Put on that blue (police) uniform and put the shield on and see what it's like to put your life in harm's way every single day, and then get back to me when you're making $35,000 or $40,000 a year, as opposed to the $11 million he's making."

Esiason says his issue isn't with Kaepernick's message but where he chooses to deliver it.

"It's an NFL football field, and he's wearing an NFL uniform. At the end of the day, if he wants to do it in a news conference, if he wants to do it and talk about it at the ESPY's and talk about it at an event he's having, more power to him. Those are the places you should be doing it, like LeBron James is doing it, like Carmelo Anthony is hoping to do it.

"But if Carmelo Anthony walks on the court in a Knicks uniform and starts in with this, I think it's going to create a lot of problems," he said. "I don't think it's their right to do it on a court which a team pays them millions of dollars to perform a job. I find it completely disrespectful, not only to the military, but to the men and women who wear the blue uniform and protect our cities every -- day."

All kinds of contridictions...

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

i will never take the opinion of someone named Boomer seriously

 

[The Lonious Monk]

What the fuck is Esiason talking about?

The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."

What political ambitions? He's making it seem like Kaep is trying to run for office. It's not even about that. And Kaep's actions weren't in any way comparable to that example. He didn't take any overt action. He just decided not to stand up.

He is severely under-informed, and I welcome him to go ride in a cop car and take numerous 911 calls, going into places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences. Put on that blue (police) uniform and put the shield on and see what it's like to put your life in harm's way every single day, and then get back to me when you're making $35,000 or $40,000 a year, as opposed to the $11 million he's making.

I hate this fucking defense of cops. "Oh, cops have a hard job and aren't paid a lot, so it's ok they do it wrong and cost some people their lives." FOH

"I don't think it's their right to do it on a court which a team pays them millions of dollars to perform a job. I find it completely disrespectful, not only to the military, but to the men and women who wear the blue uniform and protect our cities every -- day."

Last time I checked, standing up for the National Anthem wasn't part of a pro football player's job description. And since when does making millions of dollars invalidate your freedom of speech? These people are getting out of hand with the dumb shit they're saying.

 

[Copper]

https://twitter.com/brittneeraebaby/status/770938710426804224

Damn....

 

[ghostdog56]

Welp somebody find Boomer Esiason and knock him the f*ck out!!!

Boomer Esiason on Kaepernick: "It's About As Disrespectful As Any Athlete Has Ever Been"

Colin Kaepernick says he'll continue to sit for the national anthem until he feels that the "flag represents what it's supposed to represent in this country." As you might expect, this has set off a firestorm of criticism from every corner of the internet.

The latest to weigh in: CBS Sports NFL studio analyst and former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, who is wholly unimpressed with the 49ers quarterback.

"I cannot say it in the strongest, most direct way, that it's an embarrassment and it's about as disrespectful as any athlete has ever been," [Esiason said at a CBS event Tuesday in New York, via NewsDay's Bob Glauber. "And I don't care what the cause is. The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."

"He is severely under-informed, and I welcome him to go ride in a cop car and take numerous 911 calls, going into places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences. Put on that blue (police) uniform and put the shield on and see what it's like to put your life in harm's way every single day, and then get back to me when you're making $35,000 or $40,000 a year, as opposed to the $11 million he's making."

Esiason says his issue isn't with Kaepernick's message but where he chooses to deliver it.

"It's an NFL football field, and he's wearing an NFL uniform. At the end of the day, if he wants to do it in a news conference, if he wants to do it and talk about it at the ESPY's and talk about it at an event he's having, more power to him. Those are the places you should be doing it, like LeBron James is doing it, like Carmelo Anthony is hoping to do it.

"But if Carmelo Anthony walks on the court in a Knicks uniform and starts in with this, I think it's going to create a lot of problems," he said. "I don't think it's their right to do it on a court which a team pays them millions of dollars to perform a job. I find it completely disrespectful, not only to the military, but to the men and women who wear the blue uniform and protect our cities every -- day."

Lol at him saying go into places where guns and violence are a e everyday occurrence, nigga I live in those places not just work there for 8 to 12 hours and I never had to shoot anybody so he can gtfoh with that bullshit

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Welp somebody find Boomer Esiason and knock him the f*ck out!!!

Boomer Esiason on Kaepernick: "It's About As Disrespectful As Any Athlete Has Ever Been"

Colin Kaepernick says he'll continue to sit for the national anthem until he feels that the "flag represents what it's supposed to represent in this country." As you might expect, this has set off a firestorm of criticism from every corner of the internet.

The latest to weigh in: CBS Sports NFL studio analyst and former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, who is wholly unimpressed with the 49ers quarterback.

"I cannot say it in the strongest, most direct way, that it's an embarrassment and it's about as disrespectful as any athlete has ever been," [Esiason said at a CBS event Tuesday in New York, via NewsDay's Bob Glauber. "And I don't care what the cause is. The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."

"He is severely under-informed, and I welcome him to go ride in a cop car and take numerous 911 calls, going into places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences. Put on that blue (police) uniform and put the shield on and see what it's like to put your life in harm's way every single day, and then get back to me when you're making $35,000 or $40,000 a year, as opposed to the $11 million he's making."

Esiason says his issue isn't with Kaepernick's message but where he chooses to deliver it.

"It's an NFL football field, and he's wearing an NFL uniform. At the end of the day, if he wants to do it in a news conference, if he wants to do it and talk about it at the ESPY's and talk about it at an event he's having, more power to him. Those are the places you should be doing it, like LeBron James is doing it, like Carmelo Anthony is hoping to do it.

"But if Carmelo Anthony walks on the court in a Knicks uniform and starts in with this, I think it's going to create a lot of problems," he said. "I don't think it's their right to do it on a court which a team pays them millions of dollars to perform a job. I find it completely disrespectful, not only to the military, but to the men and women who wear the blue uniform and protect our cities every -- day."

Lol at him saying go into places where guns and violence are a e everyday occurrence, nigga I live in those places not just work there for 8 to 12 hours and I never had to shoot anybody so he can gtfoh with that bullshit

Yo, that's a good ass point. lol

 

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http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/...hp?t=f6f2dcce447d4f3860&cmpid=twitter-premium

I support Kap’s decision to sit during the national anthem

I have no problem with Colin Kaepernick breaking his silence, standing up and now declaring: “Silence on racial injustice? No! Not so long as I have this platform and anything to say about it.”

Colin Kaepernick absolutely has a constitutional right to express his opinion on the politics of diversity in America. He is courageous, well informed and steadfast in his position. He is evolving through an awakening and (perhaps) really understanding for the first time (given his background) the true depth and scope of the history of anti-black racial hatred and injustice in America. And because it appears to have come to him through self-education as a jarring awareness and stark reality, his response seems more akin to that of a man suddenly becoming aware his house is on fire than the result of a deliberately crafted articulation of a considered political position.

As to those outside of the “sports fraternity” who are critical of Kaep, that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it.

With regard to former and current pro players who are publicly critical of Kaep (e.g., Victor Cruz, wide receiver for the New York Giants, and Alex Boone, Kaep’s ex-teammate now with the Minnesota Vikings), I have much respect for them. They too are entitled to their opinion — but, given that they too are taking advantage of their forum as NFL players to oppose Kaep, I would take their opinion more seriously if I could see their protest statements regarding: Eric Gardner being choked to death (which happened only a few miles from where Cruz practices and plays football) or on the killing of Philando Castile (which occurred just outside St. Paul, Minn., and minutes from where Boone lines up to play football). I would really like to see their expressed opinions of outrage regarding the killings of 18-year-old Mike Brown in Ferguson, Mo., or 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio, or 7-year-old Aryana Jones in Detroit, who have died at the hands of police, or 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., who was killed by a neighborhood watchman, and the senseless death of Oscar Grant in 2009 on the BART platform in Oakland.

I’d love to see their protest statements on the systematic economic under-development of black communities for generations by both government and private corporate interests, under-development that has so devastated the institutional viability of most of these communities that crime and violence exist on the scale of pandemic public health issues.

I eagerly await their records of protest over systematic anti-black job and educational discrimination, or over the institution of unconscionable rates of black male incarceration.

And as to those who have the arrogance and audacity to bring up the old “honoring the flag is honoring our soldiers” trope, black soldiers have fought and died in every war that this nation has ever waged. Those who returned home typically were confronted with the same old institutionalized, abysmal levels of racism and racial discrimination, and at times with race-based hatred so virulent, so rapacious that some were lynched or otherwise killed in the very uniforms they had worn fighting for freedom abroad. Today, of the military veterans who are jobless, homeless and in need of critical social and medical services, a disproportionate number are African Americans, which constitutes a morally and politically unconscionable outrage.

I would be very interested in their records of protest about these circumstances, because they are so dedicated to “honoring our soldiers” that they would heap caustic criticism upon Kaepernick for sitting during the national anthem. If they have no such record of vehement protest no less critical than what they have waged against Kaep — well, perhaps then it’s time for them to sit down.

Talk is cheap, especially when it is expediently wrapped in patriotism and the flag. In any case, no one has the moral, much less the political, standing to preach to black people about any obligation to “honor our soldiers” by way of adhering to some arbitrarily arrived at (typically, conservative-mainstream-defined) mode of “patriotic” behavior deemed mandatory during the playing of the national anthem at sports entertainment venues. (That tradition started between World War I and World War II as a way for sports organizations to demonstrate “patriotism” in the face of widespread criticism of strong, healthy young men remaining home, playing games, while other men their age were putting their lives on the line at war).

Still, having said all of this, it is nonetheless necessary that there should be focus upon other, more patently subjective, considerations: While Kaep is right, the argument can be made that what is right is not always appropriate; that what is appropriate is not always best; and, that what is best is not always timely and wise. These concerns must also inform this discourse.

Consequently, the discussion legitimately cannot be limited only to the substance and visuals of what Kaep is saying and/or doing, as if his words and actions are occurring in isolation. The interrogation of Kaep’s words and actions must take into consideration the context and background developments cited, compounded by the challenges of this era (with one presidential candidate openly mocking Gold Star parents and declaring that a U.S. senator and former prisoner of war is “not a war hero” and both presidential candidates and major parties openly accusing each other as being racist or catering to “racist interests, groups and movements” — meaning whoever wins, black people have reason for continued vigilance).

We must all consider as well that while black parents are having “the conversation” with their sons and daughters about what to do when stopped by a cop, the sons and daughters of cops are having “the conversation” with their parent every day that they walk out of the house wearing that badge: “ Be careful, we want you to be safe out there and come home tonight.” While we are voicing our opinions on police killings, we must be no less vocal on the madness of killing police.

Again, I support Kaep in stating his opinions, the method he has chosen toward those ends, and his willingness to face the consequences for doing so. I do now and have all my life more than anything else abhorred silence in the face of injustice. Silence is evil’s greatest and most dependable ally. So I have no problem with Colin Kaepernick breaking his silence, standing up and now declaring: “Silence on racial injustice? No! Not so long as I have this platform and anything to say about it.”

Harry Edwards is a professor emeritus of sociology at UC Berkeley. He is best known for co-engineering the Revolt of the Black Athlete in the 1960s.

 

[Vellum]

did anyone else post this ETHER from Facebook yet? This white vet went the fuck in on these fascist Murica shitheads demanding Kaep's head......powerful shit:

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I've been away from the internet all day.

I came home from a family picnic on the Blackwater River to find my inbox, as usual, overflowing like a ripe Port-O-Pottie.

One of the first messages I read was about 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, quoted above, who last Friday night at the beginning of a preseason game suddenly decided to become the most hated man in America du jour by deliberately not standing for the National Anthem.

Yes, that's right, a football player didn't stand for the National Anthem.

As you know, this means Kaepernick is scum, a horrible human being, a likely member of ISIS, a Muslim terrorist, a black thug, a communist, a socialist (and not the cool share your weed Bernie Sanders kind of socialist but the Red Brigade kind of Socialist who sleeps under a poster of Chairman Mao), a radical, a Black Panther, and he probably has Fidel Castro's phone number in his contact favorites.

Yeah. Okay.

I answered the message and went on to the next one.

The next message was about Kaepernick. As was the next one. And the next one. And...

They all begin pretty much the same way: Jim, AS A VETERAN, what do you think about this? Well?

Let me answer all the messages at once

__________

AS A VETERAN, what do I think about Colin Kaepernick's decision to sit during the National Anthem?

As a veteran?

Very well, as a veteran then, this is what I believe:

The very first thing I learned in the military is this: Respect is a two-way street. If you want respect, true respect, sincere respect, then you have to GIVE IT.

If you want respect, you have to do the things necessary to earn it each and every single day. There are no short cuts and no exceptions.

Respect cannot be compelled.

Respect cannot be bought.

Respect cannot be inherited.

Respect cannot be demanded at the muzzle of a gun or by beating it into somebody or by shaming them into it. Can not. You might get what you think is respect, but it's not. It's only the appearance of respect. It's fear, it's groveling, it's not respect. Far, far too many people both in and out of the military, people who should emphatically know better, do not understand this simple fact: there is an enormous difference between fear and respect.

Respect has to be earned.

Respect. Has. To. Be. Earned.

Respect has to be earned every day, by every word, by every action.

It takes a lifetime of words and deeds to earn respect.

It takes only one careless word, one thoughtless action, to lose it.

That's called slavery and I have no respect for that at all.

If Americans want this man to respect America, then first they must respect him.

If America wants the world's respect, it must be worthy of respect.

America must be worthy of respect. Torture, rendition, indefinite detention, unarmed black men shot down in the street every day, poverty, inequality, voter suppression, racism, bigotry in every form, obstructionism, blind patriotism, NONE of those things are worthy of respect from anybody -- least of all an American.

But doesn't it also mean that if Kaepernick wants respect, he must give it first? Give it to America? Be worthy of respect himself? Stand up, shut up, and put his hand over his heart before Old Glory?

No. It doesn't.

Respect doesn't work that way.

Power flows from positive to negative. Electricity flows from greater potential to lesser.

The United States isn't a person, it's a vast construct, a framework of law and order and civilization designed to protect the weak from the ruthless and after more than two centuries of revision and refinement it exists to provide in equal measure for all of us the opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The United States is POWER.

All the power rests with America. Just as it does in the military chain of command. And like that chain of command, like the electrical circuit described above, respect must flow from greater to lesser FIRST before it can return.

To you the National Anthem means one thing, to Kaepernick it means something else. We are all shaped and defined by our experiences and we see the world through our own eyes. That's freedom. That's liberty. The right to believe differently. The right to protest as you will. The right to demand better. The right to believe your country can BE better, that it can live up to its sacred ideals, and the right to loudly note that it has NOT. The right to use your voice, your actions, to bring attention to the things you believe in. The right to want more for others, freedom, liberty, justice, equality, and RESPECT.

A true veteran might not agree with Colin Kaepernick, but a true veteran would fight to the death to protect his right to say what he believes.

You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him wrong, BE the nation he can respect.

It's really just that simple.
https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/1084172264951509

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Isn't it funny how regular average Joes can write powerful shit like this, but the people we give all the power in this country can't even be bothered to write their own speeches?

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EXACTLY! I say more sensible shit on this forum on a weekly basis than all of congress. Our country is truly run top to bottom by a majority of morons, regardless of race. Unfortunately there are tens of millions of other idiots who think what theyre saying is profound.

America has a stupidity problem right now that no one outside of a few honest intellects are pointing out.

Amen to this white brotha correcting the few he can with his post.

 

[D. Morgan]

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/I-support-Kaepernick-in-stating-his-opinion-and-9193838.php?t=f6f2dcce447d4f3860&cmpid=twitter-premium

I support Kap’s decision to sit during the national anthem

I have no problem with Colin Kaepernick breaking his silence, standing up and now declaring: “Silence on racial injustice? No! Not so long as I have this platform and anything to say about it.”

Colin Kaepernick absolutely has a constitutional right to express his opinion on the politics of diversity in America. He is courageous, well informed and steadfast in his position. He is evolving through an awakening and (perhaps) really understanding for the first time (given his background) the true depth and scope of the history of anti-black racial hatred and injustice in America. And because it appears to have come to him through self-education as a jarring awareness and stark reality, his response seems more akin to that of a man suddenly becoming aware his house is on fire than the result of a deliberately crafted articulation of a considered political position.

As to those outside of the “sports fraternity” who are critical of Kaep, that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it.

With regard to former and current pro players who are publicly critical of Kaep (e.g., Victor Cruz, wide receiver for the New York Giants, and Alex Boone, Kaep’s ex-teammate now with the Minnesota Vikings), I have much respect for them. They too are entitled to their opinion — but, given that they too are taking advantage of their forum as NFL players to oppose Kaep, I would take their opinion more seriously if I could see their protest statements regarding: Eric Gardner being choked to death (which happened only a few miles from where Cruz practices and plays football) or on the killing of Philando Castile (which occurred just outside St. Paul, Minn., and minutes from where Boone lines up to play football). I would really like to see their expressed opinions of outrage regarding the killings of 18-year-old Mike Brown in Ferguson, Mo., or 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Ohio, or 7-year-old Aryana Jones in Detroit, who have died at the hands of police, or 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., who was killed by a neighborhood watchman, and the senseless death of Oscar Grant in 2009 on the BART platform in Oakland.

I’d love to see their protest statements on the systematic economic under-development of black communities for generations by both government and private corporate interests, under-development that has so devastated the institutional viability of most of these communities that crime and violence exist on the scale of pandemic public health issues.

I eagerly await their records of protest over systematic anti-black job and educational discrimination, or over the institution of unconscionable rates of black male incarceration.

And as to those who have the arrogance and audacity to bring up the old “honoring the flag is honoring our soldiers” trope, black soldiers have fought and died in every war that this nation has ever waged. Those who returned home typically were confronted with the same old institutionalized, abysmal levels of racism and racial discrimination, and at times with race-based hatred so virulent, so rapacious that some were lynched or otherwise killed in the very uniforms they had worn fighting for freedom abroad. Today, of the military veterans who are jobless, homeless and in need of critical social and medical services, a disproportionate number are African Americans, which constitutes a morally and politically unconscionable outrage.

I would be very interested in their records of protest about these circumstances, because they are so dedicated to “honoring our soldiers” that they would heap caustic criticism upon Kaepernick for sitting during the national anthem. If they have no such record of vehement protest no less critical than what they have waged against Kaep — well, perhaps then it’s time for them to sit down.

Talk is cheap, especially when it is expediently wrapped in patriotism and the flag. In any case, no one has the moral, much less the political, standing to preach to black people about any obligation to “honor our soldiers” by way of adhering to some arbitrarily arrived at (typically, conservative-mainstream-defined) mode of “patriotic” behavior deemed mandatory during the playing of the national anthem at sports entertainment venues. (That tradition started between World War I and World War II as a way for sports organizations to demonstrate “patriotism” in the face of widespread criticism of strong, healthy young men remaining home, playing games, while other men their age were putting their lives on the line at war).

Still, having said all of this, it is nonetheless necessary that there should be focus upon other, more patently subjective, considerations: While Kaep is right, the argument can be made that what is right is not always appropriate; that what is appropriate is not always best; and, that what is best is not always timely and wise. These concerns must also inform this discourse.

Consequently, the discussion legitimately cannot be limited only to the substance and visuals of what Kaep is saying and/or doing, as if his words and actions are occurring in isolation. The interrogation of Kaep’s words and actions must take into consideration the context and background developments cited, compounded by the challenges of this era (with one presidential candidate openly mocking Gold Star parents and declaring that a U.S. senator and former prisoner of war is “not a war hero” and both presidential candidates and major parties openly accusing each other as being racist or catering to “racist interests, groups and movements” — meaning whoever wins, black people have reason for continued vigilance).

We must all consider as well that while black parents are having “the conversation” with their sons and daughters about what to do when stopped by a cop, the sons and daughters of cops are having “the conversation” with their parent every day that they walk out of the house wearing that badge: “ Be careful, we want you to be safe out there and come home tonight.” While we are voicing our opinions on police killings, we must be no less vocal on the madness of killing police.

Again, I support Kaep in stating his opinions, the method he has chosen toward those ends, and his willingness to face the consequences for doing so. I do now and have all my life more than anything else abhorred silence in the face of injustice. Silence is evil’s greatest and most dependable ally. So I have no problem with Colin Kaepernick breaking his silence, standing up and now declaring: “Silence on racial injustice? No! Not so long as I have this platform and anything to say about it.”

Harry Edwards is a professor emeritus of sociology at UC Berkeley. He is best known for co-engineering the Revolt of the Black Athlete in the 1960s.

 

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/whit...ick-and-black-fathers-like-his-a-second-time/

White Conservative Pundit Rips Colin Kaepernick and Black Fathers ‘Like His’

One rant against Colin Kaepernick was not enough for The Blaze‘s Tomi Lahren. In the first one, which aired on Monday night, she railed against his biracial parents, saying they weren’t “willing to raise” him. In the latest one, she doubled down on that.

Lahren really doubled down on that sentiment Tuesday.

Before saying Kaepernick’s acting “like a damn fool,” Lahren mused, “What is the significant change he’s hoping to see, I wonder? Maybe it’s a decrease in black-on-black crime. Maybe it’s more two-parent households where black fathers like his choose to stick around and raise their children.”

Kaepernick, a star in the NFL, has been flexing his First Amendment right to protest by refusing to stand for the national anthem in order to make a statement about police brutality.

This is hardly the first time Lahren has gotten angry about a person of color protesting police brutality, either. She gave Beyoncé the same treatment after the singer performed her song “Formation” during the Super Bowl halftime show. In fact, the majority of her most well-known rants have been aimed at black people, whom she claims get a “free pass” in the “melanin showdown.”

 

[Vellum]

Its funny how this colin thing is back firing as days progress. Soon all the critics are gonna have to shut the fuck up, and wait for the next incident to pretend to be outraged about.

Kudos to Harry Edwards

 

[Vellum]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/white-conservative-pundit-rips-colin-kaepernick-and-black-fathers-like-his-a-second-time/

White Conservative Pundit Rips Colin Kaepernick and Black Fathers ‘Like His’

One rant against Colin Kaepernick was not enough for The Blaze‘s Tomi Lahren. In the first one, which aired on Monday night, she railed against his biracial parents, saying they weren’t “willing to raise” him. In the latest one, she doubled down on that.

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Lahren really doubled down on that sentiment Tuesday.

Before saying Kaepernick’s acting “like a damn fool,” Lahren mused, “What is the significant change he’s hoping to see, I wonder? Maybe it’s a decrease in black-on-black crime. Maybe it’s more two-parent households where black fathers like his choose to stick around and raise their children.”

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Kaepernick, a star in the NFL, has been flexing his First Amendment right to protest by refusing to stand for the national anthem in order to make a statement about police brutality.

This is hardly the first time Lahren has gotten angry about a person of color protesting police brutality, either. She gave Beyoncé the same treatment after the singer performed her song “Formation” during the Super Bowl halftime show. In fact, the majority of her most well-known rants have been aimed at black people, whom she claims get a “free pass” in the “melanin showdown.”

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Tomi Lahren is the perfect example of a moron working against her own best interest, and a dumbass who constantly brings up black on black crime out of context for no reason regardless of the issue at hand.

Shes a pretty face with a clear mental health issue. Shes not getting paid that well to be that openly stupid, and lacking in any form of empathy for minority issues in this country.

Yet she still stands confused as to why people attack her so much, and refuses to change or evolve, cause reasons.

 

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In my viewpoint, the difference between the American flag, and the Confederate flag is the colors.

The symbolic underpinnings still represent white supremacy.

Now they trotting out Jerry Rice on some #AllLivesMatter coon shit.

White folks will always find some kneegrow; some boot-licking, dancing with the devils, yassa-bossing, talk some brotherman talk to the brother's ass nigga!!

We out here getting blasted by the police, and here he comes with this conciliatory nonsense.

Shut your trick ass up. Jerry rice is a coon now because of a difference of opinion? You sound stupid as fuck.

You should probably join the KKK. They'd love your self hating ass. You guys can call black men coons together.

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You sir, are an absolutely awful poster. Whatever hole you crawled out of, it would be great if you crawled back into it. And please, save your long-winded rebuttal post, Thrasymachus.

Smh. Every time we get rid of one annoying muthafucka, another one climbs his ass up outta the muck.

If by annoying you mean informed and unbiased, while actually agreeing with many posters here, but in a more articulate way, while informing them that their counter prejudice and racism is equally as stupid and wrong, then yes, im annoying.

The fact that you fear length in words shows me how lazy, and likely stupid you are. The fact that you interject yourself in a conversation that has nothing to do with you, just to throw in your two useless cents shows me how insecure you are.

Have you ever read before? You can read and understand a page in a book in a couple minutes tops, and thats a lot of paragraphs depending on the font size. How youre offended by my post that actually agree with posters, while correcting inaccuracies, or just putting up a different point of view is beyond me.

But again, your insecure. So i guess thats something you have to fix.

 

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@desertrain10 In response to the quoted below

lol

Slavery ended. And we don't live in segregated Jim Crow South

But we also don't live in this post racial society where color plays no role in social mobility

The continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership, debtor prisons like the city of Ferguson, the war on drugs and the retreat from desegregation in public education plays a huge role in perpetuating racial disparities in income and wealth

I don't think you'd necessarily disagree with the aforementioned, but i do believe you underestimate the impact of these practices and policies have psychologically on a ppl and the self loathing it produces

Word. This is a long response, but fuck it. Reading is fundamental. The lack of it is what humanity suffers from.

Hmmm, how do i respond to this since i agree mostly. lol.

I guess just on this issue we will diverge. Im more of the, i dont think many of these young brothas are just victims of poverty and horrible schooling, but also victims of their own people/family setting them up to fail, and choosing to take the path less traveled of crime and violence.

I have that opinion because of my own life, and the lives of others ive experienced first hand, coupled with statistics in general.

About 45 million people are living under the poverty line in this country. Clearly the vast majority of them arent committing violent crime at the rate young black men are. It would be one thing if we were just stealing cars too much, doing identity theft too much, stealing food from grocery stores, or snatch poppin Macys for school clothes. We're involved in some of the most vicious violent acts of crime at an outstandingly disproportionate rate to each other and others over stupid shit.

My problem lies in being a black man in America, not currently allowed by my own people without going through a rigorous blackness test, to say i think we all know better, and you cant just blame racism, bad schools, and poverty for everything.

I was doing summer jobs when i was fucking 14 through a local program. [/b]

I think the obsession with materialism in our community that isnt exactly the same in other non black poor communities is why poverty is driving young brothas and sistas into doing really stupid shit. I dont think its driving them insane though. America has a mental health problem, but cmon son.

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First let's acknowledge that teen pregnancy and crime rates across the board are at 20 yr lows

And more blks are enrolled in college then ever before

That said, the struggle continues. And being from the metro Detroit area i am intimately familiar with the struggle

And you are right, blk men are convicted of or are the victim of most crime in our communities. A lot of them subscribe to gang culture

Bear with me, because I know you didn't say this, but it doesn't mean Blk men are inherently more criminal or violent or impressionable than any other group

For one, one has to factor in men are more likely to be targeted by law enforcement than women, especially blk men. And men and women are prone to committing certain crimes

Also its no coincidence that most these men convicted are low income or poor. And most the crime and violence happens in close proxy to the most isolated, impoverished downtrodden pockets of America. Most these areas have been ravaged by the war on drugs

Same as it is no coincidence a child born into poverty will more than likely die poor

Not to say poverty or a culture of poverty is what ultimately drives criminality or other seemingly self destructive behavior. And I'm definately not saying that most poor, lower income ppl are dumb or lazy or they all subcribe to the same beliefs. I actually believe words like stupid and crazy to describe the actions of others can be incredibly dismisive and intellectually lazy..but I digress...It is the toxic stress that poverty creates that oftens leads one to making a bad or short sighted decision

Read:

The Effects of Poverty on the Brain
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/am-i-right/201210/the-effects-poverty-the-brain

‘Crack Babies’ A Myth, Poverty Far More Destructive For Kids Than Cocaine
http://www.mintpressnews.com/resear...ore-destructive-for-kids-than-cocaine/165791/

Not to mention the effects growing up in a violent neighborhood can have on a young persons brain

Besides stress, our choices, behavior is strongly influenced by other variables as well. Rich or poor, you also have to factor in:

- actual and perceived lack of resources. For ex, non Blk families are able to afford tutors and other services for their children who may have difficulty learning

- mental illness

- social status

- diet

- environment

-public policy

-religious beliefs

Blk children, for instance, are more likely to be exposed to high levels of environmental pollutants and toxins such as lead which can cause serious developemental and behavioral issues

I already addressed how negative perceptions, stereotypes and discrimination condoned and practiced by the dominant culture can create severe stress which affects many brain functions, putting you at risk for many mood disorders and other mental issues

And this isn't just liberal talking points I'm regurgitating. This is science. There are studies

As you alluded to, I also do believe culture plays a role as well. American culture, that is. Before you start, blk american culture and American culture are inextricably interwined. The same materialism that drives Jamel to kill Tray for his jordans, is behind the greed on Wallstreet that cost millions their homes and pensions when the housing market crashed. When Becky who idolizes Kim Kardashian gets pregnant she has parents with the money for an abortion and tuition to college, while Keisha doesn't. And unlike Keisha, for Becky it was never a question whether or not her family had the money for her to go to college

Not making excuses or saying we don't have control of our actions, but at the end of the day we are humans. There are limits to human agency

Yes racism isn't the reason Mike brought a bottle at the club rather and now can't pay his rent. But if we want to seriously address inequality and close the wealth gap systematic racism cannot be excluded from the conversation. Same as how we have to address cultural deficiencies. No single variable is responsible for any major social problem, nor can any action can cure it

I feel like we're not disagreeing much here, and thats good. Not sure why you linked the crack baby myth thing though. Im aware of this for sure.

Dr Carl Hart, a black man for thos who dont know, has gone into this in great length in podcast from joe rogan, to his varying appearances on cable news, and his books. Im fully aware how bullshit that myth is, and how drugs are completely misunderstood in this country in general.

Appreciate the detailed response that lacked calling me a coon or uncle tom like many of these other idiots do. Them dudes give me a fucking migraine. LOL

 

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But again, your insecure. So i guess thats something you have to fix.

You're or you are, I, that's or that is!

You're welcome!

If you want to decide somebody is likely stupid, you might want to make sure you have your shit together!

Protestors riot: These people need to learn how to protest peacefully!! There has to be a better way!!

Protestors raise black fisted gloves on the medal podium at the Olympics: The games are about unity, stop trying to divide us!! There has to be a better way!!

Protestors march during rush hour stopping traffic: Why do they have to do it this way? I'm on my way to work!! There has to be a better way!!

Protestor makes passionate speech on BET: That's reverse racism. All lives matter! There has to be a better way!!

Protestor sits out during the playing of the national anthem: This is outrageous! Shut up and play the game you unpatriotic, crybaby douchebag! There has to be a better way!!

Protestors disrupt political rally: We're not here to see you speak!

Look! At some point, people are going to have to admit to themselves that they're not upset about how black people are protesting! They are upset that black people are protesting.

 

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https://twitter.com/LiberationBrown/status/770835607203483648

Damn. Took me a minute to read what she wrote b/c I couldn't stop staring.

 

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https://twitter.com/LiberationBrown/status/770835607203483648

Damn. Took me a minute to read what she wrote b/c I couldn't stop staring.

She is a friend of mine. She is always speaking out!