Chris Kaman = The Great White Hope?...also NYC lack of All Star talent

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hris Kaman, and not David Lee, is the great white (American) hope.

The Los Angeles Clippers center was picked by NBA Commissioner David Stern today to replace an injured Brandon Roy is Sunday's All-Star Game in Dallas. It's a nice honor for Kaman - being an All-Star this is - but his inclusion in the league's showcase event also ends a dubious streak.

The last white America player to appear in the All-Star Game was Brad Miller, who made the team in both 2003 and 2004. Before Miller, Wally Szczerbiak and John Stockton were the two other white Americans to become All-Stars.

While the number of elite American white players has declined in the NBA, there has been an influx of European-born players making their mark in the league. Since 2004, Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Russia), Dirk Nowitzki (Germany), Pau Gasol (Spain), Mehmet Okur (Turkey) have been named All-Stars. Steve Nash (Canada) and Manu Ginobili (Argentina) have also made the All-Star during that time.

But why so few white Americans? When the percentage of African-Americans in the Major League's declined, baseball started a program to bring the sport back into the inner city. I'm pretty sure the NBA isn't going into rich suburbs and encouraging kids to put down their lacrosse sticks and start shooting hoops again.

Maybe these things just go in cycles, kind of like the great New York City basketball player. Once the hotbed of hoops, NYC isn't what it once was. There's not a single All-Star from the city. Carmelo Anthony was born in Red Hook, Brooklyn but moved to Baltimore when he was eight. In fact, the host city, Dallas, can claim two All-Stars this year; Chris Bosh and Deron Williams.

Lamar Odom, who is pretty darn good, is probably the best New York City has in the NBA today.

And yet, where would you rank Odom among NBA players. Is he in the top 30? Top 40? Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles and Oakland are producing better NBA players.

Come to think of it, Chris Mullin is very unique; a white All-Star from New York City. We may not see another like him, white or black, for quite some time.

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I want to thank loyal reader "Jets10" for helping to support my point about the lack of quality New York City players in the NBA. He reminded me that Ben Gordon, from Mount Vernon, "is pretty freaking good." So good in fact that the Detroit Pistons are the biggest disappointment in the league outside of New Jersey. Gordon is and was a back-up shooting guard. He's an above average scorer who doesn't play a lick of defense. Hence, he's a back-up. Always was, always will be.

Julius Hodge? Which NBA team does he currently play for? And Lance Stephenson doesn't belong in the argument and neither does the Big East since the discussions is about New York City players currently in the NBA. I repeat, currently in the NBA. I hope Stephenson does buck the trend. But since you brought up Stephenson, whatever happened to the last "phenom" from Coney Island by way of Lincoln High School who was going to be a big star in NBA. I can't even remember his name but I believe he's related to Stephon Marbury.

I rest my case.
 
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fuck ya niggas though

theres a couple niggas from BX and Brooklyn in college right now that got a chance to be good in the league
 
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Tommy bilfiger;178969 said:
I remember I made an epic thread about how chicago was the mecca of basketball and Nyc was all hype.

i remember that thread...and how wrong u was but it made for a good healthy debate
 
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NYC ballers seem to fizzle out and never pan out, of course there have been a few exceptions. BTW Kaman deserved to be an all star this year.
 
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NYC Ballers = Playground legends with little fundamentals.

Chicago Ballers = Some of the best
Dallas Ballers = Are getting recognition(Bosh, D.Will, Aldridge)
 
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LOL man the knicks anit even worth talking about in basketball they been whack for far too long. NYC anit the mecca for basketball I don't know who started that shit, all NYC is known for his Hip Hop music.
 
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real talk tho, if ben could consistently get in the starting line up he could be an nyc all star...

20ppg off da bench, clutch as fuck......thats a gawd damn good player
 
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Tommy bilfiger;180006 said:
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even as a Knicks fan i cant deny how good MJ was.....

...u lucky Portland took Sam Bowie
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;180482 said:
real talk tho, if ben could consistently get in the starting line up he could be an nyc all star...

20ppg off da bench, clutch as fuck......thats a gawd damn good player

he has more cons than pros
 
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Tommy bilfiger;180006 said:
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yo i swear u kill me son....

before 03 (when the bulls drafted Kirk Hinrich) they was still DEAD TRASH comin back from when Jordan had retired....

and they still havent done anything to talk about (besides draftin D-rose and ALMOST winning a 1st round series against Boston) since Jordan retired....so i have no idea how u can try to shit on the Knicks as much as you do....
 
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m. inferno;180644 said:
he has more cons than pros

not really....the only real problems are, shot selection (which can be fixed), and then the fact that he is a "tweener" not big enough to play the 2guard, but dont got the PG skill set
 
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This is completely off topic but how the hell is Rose the first bulls allstar since Jordan? You would think they had one since then.
 
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millz_flybridge;181284 said:
not really....the only real problems are, shot selection (which can be fixed), and then the fact that he is a "tweener" not big enough to play the 2guard, but dont got the PG skill set

and lets not forget his shitty D
 
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Tommy bilfiger;181969 said:
6 championships>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
Winning a chip in 98>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1972
Bulls history>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Knicks

Bulls made the playoffs in 05,06,07,09 won a round in 07(swept defendin champs miami) knicks haven't made it since 2004 and got swept by Nj.They haven't won a playoff round since 2000.
Rose is better than anybody on yo roster.Knicks are garbage always have been they don't even get aired on national tv unless they play the cavs or lakers or heat or a team with a star which is an insult.

Thats how.Bulls record in all playoff match ups vs knicks 5-1 only time you won was when mike retired and it took a bogus call for that.

Prestige....something the Bulls lack

NY (despite is less than enthralling history) is up there with Boston & the Lakers have been regarded as highly valuable franchises since Jordan was crawling out his moms puss and into the heart of NYC...Brooklyn

the top tier (in popularity and relevance)

is Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, and the New York Knicks

when Jordan was playing then u was able to put the Bulls up there...barely

u can talk about 'ships and all these stats and accolades but the fact is that Celtics, Lakers, Knicks make news whether good or bad

last time i hear talk about the Bulls on TV is Rose making the All Star Game and Del Negro's ass on the brink of gettin canned

call the Knicks losers or having no history, i'll still bet u that they'll make more headlines winning 30 games than the Bulls winning 45...NY is more relevant..win or lose

ur called the "Second City" for a reason fam...deal with it

do u realize ur still living off Jordan's accomplishments? are u still gonna be like that 10 years from now if Chicago remains ringless since '98?

its sad really

The Celtics fans keep it movin
same thing with Lakers (u don't hear them boasting about Showtime in 2010 do u?....or even the threepeat 10 years back?...cause I don't)
but u keep clinging on to old news
ur like a devasted mother who still acts like her murdered son is still alive so she still cleans up his room and sets up a place for him at the dinner table

Knicks fans keep it moving and we're focused on the future...why don't you....cause u should
 
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