Chicago at it Again (Murder Rate Spikes)

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Anyone have the data on which community areas and neighborhoods the murders are most concentrated in?

In Chicago?

 

[rebootx1]

Englewood, austin, roseland, garfeido park, South and west side

 

[zzombie]

Clearly this is the fault of whites and not the young black men actually choosing to pull the trigger.

Isn't that right @desertrain10

so the government's decision to drastically cut funding to Cease Fire that has nothing to do with it?

never mind CeaseFire has been found by researchers to reduce shootings

what about the closing of neighborhood high schools ? that means little huh?

and let me guess, the violence has nothing to do with the war on drugs and cheap heroin flooding the streets

It is not the job of the government to take care of you. That is the attitude to have.

Government program such as Cease fire are luxuries not things that government owe to their citizens.

The war on drugs is a horrible thing and it should end but at the end of the day PULLING THE TRIGGER is an individual choice. NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND EVADE responsibility by blaming the government that simple fact will not change. What we need to be doing is looking at what is it about the socialization of black youth that turns them into such monsters.... i can tell you right now it's not simply poverty

Just try and see things from a totally objective and emotionless perspective.

 

[D0wn]

I put this spike in murders, all on @obnoxiouslyfresh

This wouldn't be happening, if they all went and saw birth of a nation...

 

[MarcusGarvey]

Y'all niggas better stop making excuses for them. They dead weight - pun intended

 

[Maximus Rex]

What about black on black crime?

 

[desertrain10]

Clearly this is the fault of whites and not the young black men actually choosing to pull the trigger.

Isn't that right @desertrain10

so the government's decision to drastically cut funding to Cease Fire that has nothing to do with it?

never mind CeaseFire has been found by researchers to reduce shootings

what about the closing of neighborhood high schools ? that means little huh?

and let me guess, the violence has nothing to do with the war on drugs and cheap heroin flooding the streets

It is not the job of the government to take care of you. That is the attitude to have.

Government program such as Cease fire are luxuries not things that government owe to their citizens.

The war on drugs is a horrible thing and it should end but at the end of the day PULLING THE TRIGGER is an individual choice. NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND EVADE responsibility by blaming the government that simple fact will not change. What we need to be doing is looking at what is it about the socialization of black youth that turns them into such monsters.... i can tell you right now it's not simply poverty

Just try and see things from a totally objective and emotionless perspective.

Me be objective? Hilarious ....As if you are

But moving on...

Being impoverished does not make one violent. I agree. It plays a role.

There's also the legacy of the slavery and subsequent criminalization of Blk ppl. There was Jim crow...Redlining...slanging because no one will hire you...broken homes left in the wake of bad public policy...being exposed to high levels of lead...

That said, one of governments most crucial role is to establish law and order

The Fed and Chicago has failed it's citizens in that regard when they decide to do things like cut funding for crime prevention programs that have been proven to be successful

They also fail their citizens when they close down high schools and now children have to walk through gang /rival gang territory to get an education

Drug prohibition has only lead to more violence and left many families broken ...

Blk can't even depend on the police like other communties....

I also forgot... The accessibility of guns is a his issue

The question is whether or not we can ever depend on the government to perform their duties fairly...but that's another story

In conclusion, why don't you do us all a favor and go to the chi...let em know what u think about their situation...maybe they'll listen...

 

[Dick_gregory]

U punks think white people aint deliver the guns? They want us to kill each other

Wake up!!!

 

[Undefeatable]

Clearly this is the fault of whites and not the young black men actually choosing to pull the trigger.

Isn't that right @desertrain10

so the government's decision to drastically cut funding to Cease Fire that has nothing to do with it?

never mind CeaseFire has been found by researchers to reduce shootings

what about the closing of neighborhood high schools ? that means little huh?

and let me guess, the violence has nothing to do with the war on drugs and cheap heroin flooding the streets

It is not the job of the government to take care of you. That is the attitude to have.

Government program such as Cease fire are luxuries not things that government owe to their citizens.

The war on drugs is a horrible thing and it should end but at the end of the day PULLING THE TRIGGER is an individual choice. NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND EVADE responsibility by blaming the government that simple fact will not change. What we need to be doing is looking at what is it about the socialization of black youth that turns them into such monsters.... i can tell you right now it's not simply poverty

Just try and see things from a totally objective and emotionless perspective.

I agree with the bolded. People really need to stop pretending that it is simply poverty.

Yet, it is really problematic to ignore the role that racial oppression played over a long period of time in creating the conditions that lead to what we see today.

 

[jono]

Niggas ain't killing each other over poverty and Jim Crow.

Niggas are just ignorant...guess what? Bad people exist and a lot of them live in Chicago.

Its that simple.

We can blame drugs, lead poisoning, malnutrition, poor parenting, or anything else but its still just ignorant niggas killing people. None of that shit makes you kill anyone.

There's no compulsion to kill, its a choice.

 

[zzombie]

Clearly this is the fault of whites and not the young black men actually choosing to pull the trigger.

Isn't that right @desertrain10

so the government's decision to drastically cut funding to Cease Fire that has nothing to do with it?

never mind CeaseFire has been found by researchers to reduce shootings

what about the closing of neighborhood high schools ? that means little huh?

and let me guess, the violence has nothing to do with the war on drugs and cheap heroin flooding the streets

It is not the job of the government to take care of you. That is the attitude to have.

Government program such as Cease fire are luxuries not things that government owe to their citizens.

The war on drugs is a horrible thing and it should end but at the end of the day PULLING THE TRIGGER is an individual choice. NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND EVADE responsibility by blaming the government that simple fact will not change. What we need to be doing is looking at what is it about the socialization of black youth that turns them into such monsters.... i can tell you right now it's not simply poverty

Just try and see things from a totally objective and emotionless perspective.

Me be objective? Hilarious ....As if you are

But moving on...

Being impoverished does not make one violent. I agree. It plays a role.

There's also the legacy of the slavery and subsequent criminalization of Blk ppl. There was Jim crow...Redlining...slanging because no one will hire you...broken homes left in the wake of bad public policy...being exposed to high levels of lead...

That said, one of governments most crucial role is to establish law and order

The Fed and Chicago has failed it's citizens in that regard when they decide to do things like cut funding for crime prevention programs that have been proven to be successful

They also fail their citizens when they close down high schools and now children have to walk through gang /rival gang territory to get an education

Drug prohibition has only lead to more violence and left many families broken ...

Blk can't even depend on the police like other communties....

I also forgot... The accessibility of guns is a his issue

The question is whether or not we can ever depend on the government to perform their duties fairly...but that's another story

In conclusion, why don't you do us all a favor and go to the chi...let em know what u think about their situation...maybe they'll listen...

Legacy of slavery my ass. How long exactly are you going to use slavery as an excuse for black degeneracy??? new flash it's time to get over it and move on slavery was a long time ago.

JIM COW, RELINING AND THE CRIMINALIZATION OF BLACKS IS ALL True. But those things still don't actually pull the trigger.... and the sad thing is black people already know this society is out to get us and had little mercy yet we keep indulging in behavior that makes it easy for the system to fuck us over.

For there to be law and order the citizenry has to play a part one demographic cannot be allowed to disregard the law simply because of historical injustice or even poverty.

american citizens all have the right to own guns if black people choose to abuse this right then it is not the fault of government it is the fault of black people.

I think you have a twisted perspective on what duties governments owe their citizens.

 

[silverfoxx]

I'm truly starting to believe the ideology of Englewood Chicago and the likes of other Southside and Westside urban areas is becoming conceptual ideologies similar deserted Amazon Tribes in the wild where the population is so conditioned in their own deep Taboo.

Where the beginning premises was composed from oppression and Govt assisting of guns and drugs, and the left "desertion" transformed the the culture of the inner Chicago jungle to self hate and black extortion. When these broken cities was left alone, the deeper the ideology grew and detached people were from outside influences. Which creates the illusion that it's only one way to live or surive in a certain life span because there is nothing beyond Southside Chicago. Its bigger then black skin. Its certainly passed that there. Because if they was aware of their hatred of themselves then violence would not be so apparent.

The bigger picture imo is mental isolation and a deep dark ideology of self hate with components to try to fix that by taking other life to receive their self appreciation . in return they lose value of what life truly is.

 

[Undefeatable]

Niggas ain't killing each other over poverty and Jim Crow.

Niggas are just ignorant...guess what? Bad people exist and a lot of them live in Chicago.



Its that simple.

We can blame drugs, lead poisoning, malnutrition, poor parenting, or anything else but its still just ignorant niggas killing people. None of that shit makes you kill anyone.

There's no compulsion to kill, its a choice.

How did they get so ignorant? Why aren't other races as ignorant, according to your theory? Please answer these questions.

To me, you can't fully answer these questions -- not even close -- without talking about white supremacy and the history of white oppression. After all, who created the ghetto? And surely, the violence is linked to the conditions of the ghetto, conditions that are not reducible to poverty.

 

[trilladelic]

Not pleased to see my city on that list..

 

[jono]

Niggas ain't killing each other over poverty and Jim Crow.

Niggas are just ignorant...guess what? Bad people exist and a lot of them live in Chicago.



Its that simple.

We can blame drugs, lead poisoning, malnutrition, poor parenting, or anything else but its still just ignorant niggas killing people. None of that shit makes you kill anyone.

There's no compulsion to kill, its a choice.

How did they get so ignorant? Why aren't other races as ignorant, according to your theory? Please answer these questions.

To me, you can't fully answer these questions -- not even close -- without talking about white supremacy and the history of white oppression. After all, who created the ghetto? And surely, the violence is linked to the conditions of the ghetto, conditions that are not reducible to poverty.

Drugs, alcohol...maybe mental illness and poor parenting but mostly personal choices.

Hundreds of thousands of black folks live cities all over. Why aren't they all killing each other off like this?

Why are there so many decent black kids?

Why are there so many kids that want to learn?

Why are there so many kids that want to be safe?

Why are there so many kids that don't even understand why another person would even kill another person?

IN THAT SAME ENVIRONMENT. With the same skin color. Niggas just being niggas. You out here babying them and they looking for ways to hit a lick...fuck them niggas.

And yes you do see poor whites killing each other. You see drug addicts, drunks and the mentally ill kill and attack folks all the time because they're untreated and cut loose on society. That's at every level from the rich to the poor.

Stop making fucking excuses for these fuck ass, murdering ass, making the neighborhoods insecure as niggas. Fuck them.

 

[Brother_Five]

How y'all gonna tackle a problem if u r not willing to see and acknowledge the complex and interwoven factors?

Moralizing and talking about personal responsibility ain't gonna ameliorate shit

Giving the youth legitimate pathways to getting out of the cycle is what is necessary

The conditions in places like Chicago breeds violence, put any group in these same positions and you would get similar results

Therefore changing the conditions in which they live is a viable solution to the violence

But ppl don't want the violence to stop

Both black and white ppl like having ppl they can point their fingers at

'Look at those ignorant niggas'

 

[kzzl]

Personally, I've always found Chicago's crime rate more of a bad reflection on its police force. You know, the people who are actually paid to deal with crime. A population is bound to have its bad apples, but for Chicago to be this city under siege where the niggas have taken over, I don't buy it.

We live in the same country with a government that increases police presence at night clubs, court verdicts, Straight Outta Compton movie premiers, and reacts to peaceful protest of blacks exercising theirs rights with military force. But I'm suppose to just up and believe the Lil Ray Rays and them can't be stopped? None of that shit adds up.

All that good behavior means nothing if citizens have no protection from the criminals. Judging by this country's pass reactions to "unruly" blacks, Chicago's troubled area should of been had tanks in the streets. The fact that they don't tells me more about how those officials don't want them there.

 

[Brother_Five]

Police can't fix this

They are not equipped

They can only introduce more violence

 

[R.D.]

Niggas ain't killing each other over poverty and Jim Crow.

Niggas are just ignorant...guess what? Bad people exist and a lot of them live in Chicago.

Its that simple.

We can blame drugs, lead poisoning, malnutrition, poor parenting, or anything else but its still just ignorant niggas killing people. None of that shit makes you kill anyone.

There's no compulsion to kill, its a choice.

You're deadass fuckin stupid and don't know what you're talking about

 

[RickyRich]

Nuke them and call it a day