Chicago at it Again (Murder Rate Spikes)

[Kwan Dai]

This is a classic "You can lead a horse to water" argument. Them niggas ain't going to be "mentored," they ain't going to school or to take up a trade.

There's people fighting to NOT be in that environment. People struggling but refusing to fall into that bullshit lifestyle. We should be thinking about those people.

The folks that would rather cut grass or shovel snow than sell dope. People who frequent libraries just to use the computer because they can't afford one at home. The kids who stay in the house because being outside means running into gangbangers.

Those people are unfortunately trapped in with the ignorant niggas that won't let you have nice shit.

Selling dope is a choice, buying or somehow getting a gun is a choice, shooting somebody is a motherfucking choice.

Who the fuck is going to invest in a shitty neighborhood? Nobody.



Nobody wants to a buy a house there

Nobody wants to open a business there

Its a waste of resources.

Chicago Public transportation is far more accessible than most cities, certainly more than Detroit which doesn't even have an adequate bus system. So people who want to get out and move around have a chance.

What do you think gentrification is?

When whites want to make their bread and create communities of their own nothing gets in their way. That's why they can come to the "ghetto" buy it for cheap and then price Blacks out.

Your scary assed defeatist ideas are part and parcel of the Black condition.

You outright imply that other ethnic groups aren't choosing to sell dope and purchase guns. FOH.

Black neighborhoods consists of all types of folks and until we embrace the complexities of our own people we will continue our here lost scared and criminalizing our own people.

I ain't say none of that. Lol strawman ass nigga

All one has to do is read between the lines.

Your posts are nothing but stereotypes and shallow assessments of complex people and situations. FOH.

Fuck outta here.

There's 2 different kinds of folks that live in the hood. I'm making a distinction, you making generalizations.

Your distinctions are based on stereotypes. You're a fool if you believe Black Neighborhoods (aka the hood) only consist of 2 different types of people.

 

[jono]

This is a classic "You can lead a horse to water" argument. Them niggas ain't going to be "mentored," they ain't going to school or to take up a trade.

There's people fighting to NOT be in that environment. People struggling but refusing to fall into that bullshit lifestyle. We should be thinking about those people.

The folks that would rather cut grass or shovel snow than sell dope. People who frequent libraries just to use the computer because they can't afford one at home. The kids who stay in the house because being outside means running into gangbangers.

Those people are unfortunately trapped in with the ignorant niggas that won't let you have nice shit.

Selling dope is a choice, buying or somehow getting a gun is a choice, shooting somebody is a motherfucking choice.

Who the fuck is going to invest in a shitty neighborhood? Nobody.



Nobody wants to a buy a house there

Nobody wants to open a business there

Its a waste of resources.

Chicago Public transportation is far more accessible than most cities, certainly more than Detroit which doesn't even have an adequate bus system. So people who want to get out and move around have a chance.

What do you think gentrification is?

When whites want to make their bread and create communities of their own nothing gets in their way. That's why they can come to the "ghetto" buy it for cheap and then price Blacks out.

Your scary assed defeatist ideas are part and parcel of the Black condition.

You outright imply that other ethnic groups aren't choosing to sell dope and purchase guns. FOH.

Black neighborhoods consists of all types of folks and until we embrace the complexities of our own people we will continue our here lost scared and criminalizing our own people.

I ain't say none of that. Lol strawman ass nigga

All one has to do is read between the lines.

Your posts are nothing but stereotypes and shallow assessments of complex people and situations. FOH.

Fuck outta here.

There's 2 different kinds of folks that live in the hood. I'm making a distinction, you making generalizations.

Your distinctions are based on stereotypes. You're a fool if you believe Black Neighborhoods (aka the hood) only consist of 2 different types of people.

Lol alright dude. There's 123926 types of people...however many you want

 

[zzombie]

You stop gentrification by not fleeing Black neighborhoods for what is perceived to be better neighborhoods i.e. white.

That's not realistic because the houses in black communities aren't usually owned by black people. So non black owners will just raise rent as the market requires

So also it is unfair to ask blacks not to sell their property to buyers who can offer them maximum profit

 

[Kwan Dai]

You stop gentrification by not fleeing Black neighborhoods for what is perceived to be better neighborhoods i.e. white.

That's not realistic because the houses in black communities aren't usually owned by black people. So non black owners will just raise rent as the market requires

So also it is unfair to ask blacks not to sell their property to buyers who can offer them maximum profit

I agree 100%. This is where Affluent Blacks come in the picture. We have to wrestle back control because, we are talking about undoing 100+ years of housing discrimination. Especially in our major cities.

And again you are correct. But we cannot bitch and complain about our issues if we aren't prepared to sacrifice, take some loses or be extremely creative financially.

 

[zzombie]

If you want to stop gentrification liberalize building rules and increase housing supply

that would be the job of the government correct?

Liberalization of housing/building regulations are obviously the job of government in particular local government

 

[LPast]

As soon as you say "programs" you can bet those people are doomed...

People are dying and you say "programs"...

Programs usually mean government government means dependence, dependence means you are putting your outlook and future into that hands of others...

That puts you back at square one... Where is square one?

Like I always say... Y'all are waiting on white people to save Chicago... Nothing will change.

 

[MR.CJ]

Damn

 

[king hassan]

Does anybody that got shit to say look at the age group of these fuck niggas out here doing all the shooting. Young, dumb crack baby ass niggas

 

[jono]

As soon as you say "programs" you can bet those people are doomed...

People are dying and you say "programs"...

Programs usually mean government government means dependence, dependence means you are putting your outlook and future into that hands of others...

That puts you back at square one... Where is square one?

Like I always say... Y'all are waiting on white people to save Chicago... Nothing will change.

Programs would help but it will only help those that utilize it. The biggest problems are those that aren't going to utilize them.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Does anybody that got shit to say look at the age group of these fuck niggas out here doing all the shooting. Young, dumb crack baby ass niggas

Fathers need to step up

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

At a certain point it has to reach its peak.. there aint gonna be any niggas left to keep the rates this high

Or it's propaganda. It still amazes me how the very same people who were and are wrongfully attacked by yellow journalism and media tactics, seem to blindly believe everything the media presents.

 

[Mseries_]

Murders way down in my city, almost 45%, real happy about that.

 

[northside7]

Clearly this is the fault of whites and not the young black men actually choosing to pull the trigger.

Isn't that right @desertrain10

so the government's decision to drastically cut funding to Cease Fire that has nothing to do with it?

never mind CeaseFire has been found by researchers to reduce shootings

what about the closing of neighborhood high schools ? that means little huh?

and let me guess, the violence has nothing to do with the war on drugs and cheap heroin flooding the streets

It is not the job of the government to take care of you. That is the attitude to have.

Government program such as Cease fire are luxuries not things that government owe to their citizens.

The war on drugs is a horrible thing and it should end but at the end of the day PULLING THE TRIGGER is an individual choice. NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND EVADE responsibility by blaming the government that simple fact will not change. What we need to be doing is looking at what is it about the socialization of black youth that turns them into such monsters.... i can tell you right now it's not simply poverty

Just try and see things from a totally objective and emotionless perspective.

I fully agree with the bold.

That's the problem with the masses. They rely on the government or someone else to look out for their well being.

 

[king hassan]

Does anybody that got shit to say look at the age group of these fuck niggas out here doing all the shooting. Young, dumb crack baby ass niggas

Fathers need to step up

Truth of the matter, most of these kids come from single parent homes with no fathers, and on the other end you got these second child hood niggas out here trying to hang wit the youngins instead of trying to offer guidance. Look at the thread about single mothers, niggas just trying to fuck and not nurture

 

[Mseries_]

Does anybody that got shit to say look at the age group of these fuck niggas out here doing all the shooting. Young, dumb crack baby ass niggas

No diss, ok maybe slight diss, but wouldnt it be a failure on behalf of your generation, peers not being around( for whatever reason) for these young fatherless negroes......

Institutionalized Racism has alot to do with the middle school to prison pipeline.

Anyway everyone should check out the 13th documentary on Netflix.

 

[mc317]

I blame mickey cobras and renegades

 

[king hassan]

Does anybody that got shit to say look at the age group of these fuck niggas out here doing all the shooting. Young, dumb crack baby ass niggas

No diss, ok maybe slight diss, but wouldnt it be a failure on behalf of your generation, peers not being around( for whatever reason) for these young fatherless negroes......

Institutionalized Racism has alot to do with the middle school to prison pipeline.

Anyway everyone should check out the 13th documentary on Netflix.

No diss taken homie, I've been saying that for the longest. A lot of cats not stepping up, to much discord between the men and women, creating more broken homes. And couple that with kids not being raised, mama's still trying to kick it instead of raising kids and social media. And people don't believe it but violent music and t.v. is a big cause of it too.

 

[kzzl]

Police can't fix this

They are not equipped

They can only introduce more violence

Police are well equipped, funded, and emboldened by the government to do whatever they want to black people. Theyve proven this multiple times, which is the point I'm making. You can't have a tank, riot gear, and national guard out for black folks not breaking the law and then act like your helpless against real criminal threats. That's a huge inconsistency, which is why I think there's some deception in all this somewhere. I'd think these cops would jump at a chance for open season in the Chi, they sure had to problem putting up snipers while blacks are being peaceful.

I don't know what is going to solve this problem in Chicago, I'm just an observer, but it's clear law enforcement failed at its duty. It's their job to deal with the degenerates, not a citizens. The criminal element festered like an infection. What would of been solved with prevention and medicine may now require the whole limb to be cut off. I'm not cosigning it as a solution, but whatever violence there involvement would bring is their fault as well. Or the fault of whoever controls them.

 

[Mseries_]

When was this written? Chicago was at 590 as of like yesterday

I think Chicago gonna hit 710 by the end of the year ( no credit score).

 

[jono]

The cops are part of the solution but first they have to stop being part of the problem