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TheLaureate;4892203 said:
The only thing I disagree with you is Bis wasnt defeated by Dizaster....He defeated himself....Then copped pleas afterwards.
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Canibus to Release "Rip the Jacker 2 Infinity" 10,000 Bars a Revolutionary Album
The only thing I disagree with you is Bis wasnt defeated by Dizaster....He defeated himself....Then copped pleas afterwards.
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I'm not trying to listen to 9 hours of quantum physics and atomic theory
lol...i'm watching his KOTD rap battle. Da fuck happened to this nigga? It looks like he peaked with his first single, and his first rhyme book, and has been recycling the same rhymes and themes ever since.
And damn...dizaster went in on him hard. Especially the "LL livin' in a ridiculously priced suburb..." line
UPDATE 2nd Round: lulz, Canibus resorting to racial epithets. That's when you know he has nothing else to say. LOL @ Dizaster ending the second round with "Fuck outta my face". lol
And damn...dizaster went in on him hard. Especially the "LL livin' in a ridiculously priced suburb..." line
UPDATE 2nd Round: lulz, Canibus resorting to racial epithets. That's when you know he has nothing else to say. LOL @ Dizaster ending the second round with "Fuck outta my face". lol
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Lyrically Canibus can spit with anyone, he is one of the most talented MC's around.
However his production has always been sub par and he should stay away from battles and dis tracks
However his production has always been sub par and he should stay away from battles and dis tracks
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sully;4892219 said:
False. He merely took a break. He was rhymin even in the military. You can see vids of him rappin with tanks in the background in his army fatigues.
The fuck are you watching the battle for? This ain't no promo for that old ass battle, this is about Rip the Jacker 2 Infinity.
And no, he didn't peak with his first single. Have you not heard Mic Club: The Curriculum, Rip the Jacker, 2000 B.C., Def Con Zero, For Whom The Beat Tolls, Poet Laureate Infinity, Melatonin Magik, Lyrical Law, and C of Tranquility? Canibus has only constantly improved, you have NO clue about anything. Also, he hasn't been recycling shit. The only times he recycles is when he purposely recites an old line as an allusion or reference, it's very rare. He has written more original bars than any rapper in the history of existence and that is 100% indisputable fact.
I bet you didn't even watch the videos I posted of his new material. He has advanced bars for days. Don't judge him based on the bars from the battle. He clearly didn't do his best. As he stated in the 2012 A.D. track: "Choked up, so what he was defeated, but if he was in that zone he'd tear you to pieces."
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Lab Baby;4892266 said:
What, you think Canibus fans don't exist? Let me guess, that guy who posted a thread of the tracklisting from Talib Kweli's new album, that's actually Talib Kweli promoting his new album. No, he's just a fan.
Btw, my first thread here was about Vinnie Paz' new album. Why would Canibus do that, he barely promotes his own music let alone other people's music.
False. He merely took a break. He was rhymin even in the military. You can see vids of him rappin with tanks in the background in his army fatigues.
So he (you) wanted to take a break from the military, and that's why he (you) was rapping with tanks behind him?
First of all, Canibus lost for joining the war machine and choosing to join an outfit that specializes in killing and invading foreign lands. The U.S. military has killed over 100,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past 10 years. Most of those deaths being during the time he served in the military. And if Canibus' lyrics are any indication of his personal thoughts, then it seems he joined at least partially as retaliatory efforts after the World Trade Center was "2nd Round KO'd", and considers Muslims and Arabs/Middle Easterners to be savages and barbaric. So that right there is real petty and irrational. Also shows how trumped up by false patriotism he can get. Which shows he's a tool to the views of those more persuasive than him.
The fuck are you watching the battle for?
B/c this is a hip hop forum and I missed said event. It also happened to be in my hometown, which makes it more interesting. And was referenced in this thread, so like anyone with half an ounce of intelligence, I decided to check out the evidence for myself.
This ain't no promo for that old ass battle, this is about Rip the Jacker 2 Infinity.
Maybe. But if the battle is any indication of where Canibus' head is at (and it should be since it only happened a couple months ago, it should give legitimacy to the notion that this album will be bad, even by a Canibus album standards.
Plus, you call that an old-ass battle, yet, reference videos of Canibus rapping in front of tanks almost a decade ago? LOL. Master P was rapping in front of tanks years before that, and didn't have to join the army to do so.
And no, he didn't peak with his first single.
Commercially? Yes. 1 Gold album in 14 years hyped off a beef with (at the time) one of the hottest rappers in the game? Nigga, I can divide.
Have you not heard Mic Club: The Curriculum, Rip the Jacker, 2000 B.C., Def Con Zero, For Whom The Beat Tolls, Poet Laureate Infinity, Melatonin Magik, Lyrical Law, and C of Tranquility?
I've heard Can-I-Bus, Mic Club: The Curriculum, Rip the Jacker, 2000 B.C., Def Con Zero, and For Whom the Beat Tolls. I even listened to The Brainstream mixtape.
I haven't heard the rest. After listening (and disposing of) everything I had of Canibus' music save for a few cuts off Can-I-Bus, Mic Club, and The Brainstream, I decided to stop checking for Canibus b/c his music didn't pique my interest anymore. A large part of that was b/c he progressively became wack after Mic Club. To the point where lyrically he wasn't dope. Spit the same concepts in wack bars, and didn't evolve as an artist. He was still (and still is) trying to be Rip the Jacker, but without the lyrical skills to back him up. It just sounds too forced to be worthy of my time.
Canibus has only constantly improved, you have NO clue about anything.
Nope. See above. Wacker bars, forcing the space-age lyrical content (which by the way, he isn't correct about like half the stuff he says...no person with who's as intelligent as Canibus claims he is with 'super metaphors beyond the reaches of mars that evolved eons ago' would talk like Canibus in real life).
Also, he hasn't been recycling shit.
That L Canibus took from Dizaster was directly b/c Canibus decided he'd rather recycle rhymes he spit at LL Cool J 14-15 years ago than to come up with new shit. Even the written stuff he pathetically recited from a fucking notepad was just rehashed lyrics from a decade+ ago with Dizaster's name inserted.
The only times he recycles is when he purposely recites an old line as an allusion or reference, it's very rare.
Reciting the same lyrics from 2nd Round KO twice in the same battle is beyond pathetic. And the fact that those were rhymes he had recited twice in the same battle were also lyrics he rehashed when sitting with Big Pun, etc., in the very YouTube video referenced by Dizaster.
If anything Dizaster went easy on Canibus by not sticking it to him for spending 3 weeks reciting rhymes and merely reciting the same lyrics he spit 14 years ago in a battle even LL Cool J doesn't give a shit about.
If anything, reciting the same bars again and again and again everytime he's in the spotlight, further proves that it's the one song he always goes back to, to try and win people over (and it doesn't work anymore...clearly), thus accentuating my point that Canibus really is just a one-hit wonder; in almost the truest sense of the word.
He has written more original bars than any rapper in the history of existence and that is 100% indisputable fact.
I doubt that, considering there are rappers with twice the amounts of albums as Canibus and have put out countless mixtapes.
Plus, writing bars means nothing if you can't find a venue to spit. Can't put them to a song appeallingly. Can't remember any of those other bars when you are put in a freestyle battle situation. And can't use them to write for others or sell to others to use.
I can write bars for days too. But it doesn't mean I can rap. Doesn't mean they'll be good. And it doesn't mean anyone wants to listen to them, even if they are the illest metaphors 'in the universe and beyond'.
I bet you didn't even watch the videos I posted of his new material.
You're right. I haven't. I might. But I haven't.
He has advanced bars for days.
But is it anything I want to listen to?
Don't judge him based on the bars from the battle. He clearly didn't do his best.
Clearly.
As he stated in the 2012 A.D. track: "Choked up, so what he was defeated, but if he was in that zone he'd tear you to pieces.".
"Battle rappers" always have to be in that zone. Especially in a battle they've been preparing for, for 3 weeks.
Look. My end point is that I really just feel sorry Canibus. I'm not even trying to be funny with that. He seemed really pathetic and lost in that battle rap video. I hope he sells decently on his album sales. I don't wish ill on him. Just disappointed b/c i used to be a fan, but he's fallen off as a rapper and hasn't been able to adapt.
If I were Canibus, what i'd do more than anything is generate a YouTube buzz like all these other new-age rappers. Put videos out of yourself doing shit. Put out videos of how you rap. Let people see who Canibus is. Let people experience all these bars. And not just on a 10,000 bars type thing, but just spitting and trying different styles. If he's not caking off albums sales, might as well try to cake off YouTube and generate a buzz that might lead to guest features and some behind-the-scenes work.
So he (you) wanted to take a break from the military, and that's why he (you) was rapping with tanks behind him?
First of all, Canibus lost for joining the war machine and choosing to join an outfit that specializes in killing and invading foreign lands. The U.S. military has killed over 100,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past 10 years. Most of those deaths being during the time he served in the military. And if Canibus' lyrics are any indication of his personal thoughts, then it seems he joined at least partially as retaliatory efforts after the World Trade Center was "2nd Round KO'd", and considers Muslims and Arabs/Middle Easterners to be savages and barbaric. So that right there is real petty and irrational. Also shows how trumped up by false patriotism he can get. Which shows he's a tool to the views of those more persuasive than him.
The fuck are you watching the battle for?
B/c this is a hip hop forum and I missed said event. It also happened to be in my hometown, which makes it more interesting. And was referenced in this thread, so like anyone with half an ounce of intelligence, I decided to check out the evidence for myself.
This ain't no promo for that old ass battle, this is about Rip the Jacker 2 Infinity.
Maybe. But if the battle is any indication of where Canibus' head is at (and it should be since it only happened a couple months ago, it should give legitimacy to the notion that this album will be bad, even by a Canibus album standards.
Plus, you call that an old-ass battle, yet, reference videos of Canibus rapping in front of tanks almost a decade ago? LOL. Master P was rapping in front of tanks years before that, and didn't have to join the army to do so.
And no, he didn't peak with his first single.
Commercially? Yes. 1 Gold album in 14 years hyped off a beef with (at the time) one of the hottest rappers in the game? Nigga, I can divide.
Have you not heard Mic Club: The Curriculum, Rip the Jacker, 2000 B.C., Def Con Zero, For Whom The Beat Tolls, Poet Laureate Infinity, Melatonin Magik, Lyrical Law, and C of Tranquility?
I've heard Can-I-Bus, Mic Club: The Curriculum, Rip the Jacker, 2000 B.C., Def Con Zero, and For Whom the Beat Tolls. I even listened to The Brainstream mixtape.
I haven't heard the rest. After listening (and disposing of) everything I had of Canibus' music save for a few cuts off Can-I-Bus, Mic Club, and The Brainstream, I decided to stop checking for Canibus b/c his music didn't pique my interest anymore. A large part of that was b/c he progressively became wack after Mic Club. To the point where lyrically he wasn't dope. Spit the same concepts in wack bars, and didn't evolve as an artist. He was still (and still is) trying to be Rip the Jacker, but without the lyrical skills to back him up. It just sounds too forced to be worthy of my time.
Canibus has only constantly improved, you have NO clue about anything.
Nope. See above. Wacker bars, forcing the space-age lyrical content (which by the way, he isn't correct about like half the stuff he says...no person with who's as intelligent as Canibus claims he is with 'super metaphors beyond the reaches of mars that evolved eons ago' would talk like Canibus in real life).
Also, he hasn't been recycling shit.
That L Canibus took from Dizaster was directly b/c Canibus decided he'd rather recycle rhymes he spit at LL Cool J 14-15 years ago than to come up with new shit. Even the written stuff he pathetically recited from a fucking notepad was just rehashed lyrics from a decade+ ago with Dizaster's name inserted.
The only times he recycles is when he purposely recites an old line as an allusion or reference, it's very rare.
Reciting the same lyrics from 2nd Round KO twice in the same battle is beyond pathetic. And the fact that those were rhymes he had recited twice in the same battle were also lyrics he rehashed when sitting with Big Pun, etc., in the very YouTube video referenced by Dizaster.
If anything Dizaster went easy on Canibus by not sticking it to him for spending 3 weeks reciting rhymes and merely reciting the same lyrics he spit 14 years ago in a battle even LL Cool J doesn't give a shit about.
If anything, reciting the same bars again and again and again everytime he's in the spotlight, further proves that it's the one song he always goes back to, to try and win people over (and it doesn't work anymore...clearly), thus accentuating my point that Canibus really is just a one-hit wonder; in almost the truest sense of the word.
He has written more original bars than any rapper in the history of existence and that is 100% indisputable fact.
I doubt that, considering there are rappers with twice the amounts of albums as Canibus and have put out countless mixtapes.
Plus, writing bars means nothing if you can't find a venue to spit. Can't put them to a song appeallingly. Can't remember any of those other bars when you are put in a freestyle battle situation. And can't use them to write for others or sell to others to use.
I can write bars for days too. But it doesn't mean I can rap. Doesn't mean they'll be good. And it doesn't mean anyone wants to listen to them, even if they are the illest metaphors 'in the universe and beyond'.
I bet you didn't even watch the videos I posted of his new material.
You're right. I haven't. I might. But I haven't.
He has advanced bars for days.
But is it anything I want to listen to?
Don't judge him based on the bars from the battle. He clearly didn't do his best.
Clearly.
As he stated in the 2012 A.D. track: "Choked up, so what he was defeated, but if he was in that zone he'd tear you to pieces.".
"Battle rappers" always have to be in that zone. Especially in a battle they've been preparing for, for 3 weeks.
Look. My end point is that I really just feel sorry Canibus. I'm not even trying to be funny with that. He seemed really pathetic and lost in that battle rap video. I hope he sells decently on his album sales. I don't wish ill on him. Just disappointed b/c i used to be a fan, but he's fallen off as a rapper and hasn't been able to adapt.
If I were Canibus, what i'd do more than anything is generate a YouTube buzz like all these other new-age rappers. Put videos out of yourself doing shit. Put out videos of how you rap. Let people see who Canibus is. Let people experience all these bars. And not just on a 10,000 bars type thing, but just spitting and trying different styles. If he's not caking off albums sales, might as well try to cake off YouTube and generate a buzz that might lead to guest features and some behind-the-scenes work.
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Lurk_Hinrich;4892301 said:
There ain't no fans here apparently except me and one other person. Canibus rarely goes on forums and interacts with fans. He has an account on Canibus-Central and he hasn't made a post there in years. He posts like once every 2 years. He's not very much into the whole social media thing. He hasn't even updated his Facebook in months, yet he's had new updates he posted on YouTube and ReverbNation yesterday.
Why is it hard to believe that there are Canibus fans out there who exist and support his music. All of his recent albums have made the Billboard charts even though he don't get radio play.
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sully;4892294 said:
False. In his interviews he said that he wanted a challenge and that he wanted to feel like what it's like being a pawn of the global elites. In the song lyrics you are referring to, that song was from his SATIRE album "C True Hollywood Stories" and even in the song he said "It doesn't make me feel powerful, it's just a parable, It's just a rhyme really none of this is tangible." So no, he doesn't have a sense of Patriotism or the belief that Arabs are barbaric savages. He's British Jamaican, why would he be so pro-American. He's lived all over the world, not just America.
You know where his head was at during the battle? In fucking stitches. He was sabotaged, beaten, hit in the head, and thrown in jail by border patrol and didn't get released until just hours before the battle. Of course he wasn't prepared, he had goddamn fresh stitches in his head.
Canibus has been working on Rip the Jacker 2 Infinity for 5 years and you're gonna claim that his one bad day during a battle a couple months ago indicates how his album will be? GTFO. You spent the time to watch a 60 minute battle to determine if his album is good, but you won't watch his two promo sample vids FOR the new album to see if it's good? I seriously question your sanity. You have zero critical thinking skills.
A rappers skill and musically quality is not determined by commercial success. You know what earns commercial success? Justin Beiber, Laffy Taffy, Chicken Noodle Soup, Yung Joc, 2 Chains, and Tyga. Now try and tell me about how commercial success determines when an artist peaks at.
Same concepts and didn't evolve? Are you kidding me? I don't remember there being a 5 layer infinite intertwine rhyme concept on his early records. No, didn't think so. Canibus evolved from a battle rapper to a pure advance lyrical beast. His vocab increased, his subject matter broadened, his lyrics became more clever, the message is more hard hitting and enlightened. Everything about him evolved. He has even evolved new flows, new deliveries. You have no clue what you're talking about. And none of it's forced. He is just naturally an intelligent person, he was working as a Data Analyst for the U.S. Department of Justice in his early 20s. As he has stated in recent promo vids, the rhymes come to him directly from the Universe.
I've listened to his interviews, he knows what he's talking about. I also know that the cosmology, science, and astronomy he is talking about is actually correct. I've analyzed the rhymes and done the research. There is no "forcing space age lyrical content," he's just being Canibus. Is Wiz Khalifa forcing pro-marijuana lyrics? Is Rick Ross forcing Miami drug boss lyrics? No, these people have a style and subject matter and stick to it. Canibus happens to cover a broad range of intellectual and esoteric subject matters.
False. He reused a scheme and adapted it to the Dizaster battle. He didn't bite the lyrics. You don't know the difference between following a scheme and recycling lyrics. In that battle, he tried too hard to cater to the audience than to stick with his guns. He tried to go the funny jokester route that wins over KOTD battle fans and references to fan-favorite material. Instead, he shoulda blacked out with his new rhyme style and said "fuck the KOTD crowd."
Newsflash. He didn't recycle rhymes from both 2nd Round KO AND the cypher with Big Pun. The cypher with Pun WAS 2nd Round KO. That was his first revealing of the lyrics of 2nd Round, then he adapted those lyrics and put them to a beat and 2nd Round KO was born.
Canibus spit 12 minutes of rhymes which is approximately 300 bars. 4 out of the 300 bars were schemes taken from 2nd Round KO. I thought you were good with math?
And no, Dizaster wasn't mad. Dizaster had Canibus' 30 page notebook and he said that Canibus had rhymes that were straight fire but that he didn't get to spit. He commended him for the bars in that notebook.
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Canibus spits marathon songs with 100 bars, he's done a 1000 bar song that is an hour long. He wasn't kidding when he said he could kick a rhyme longer than your whole album. Now he's releasing a 9 hour, 10,000 bar song. 9 hours, that's the equivalent of 9 albums, plus he has a catalogue of 12 albums so far. So that's 17 albums, plus the 1000 bar song, plus the fact that his songs have twice as many bars as the average song for a rapper. So that's 24 + 9 + 1 = the equivalent of 34 albums. Let's not forgot his countless cameo appearences, plus his album with T.H.E.M. He's got about 100 cameo appearances which equals 8 albums. That's 43 albums worth of content. 99.999% of those bars are original. So again, he has written more original bars than any rapper in history.
1. He can and does put them to a song appealingly.
2. He remembers hundreds of bars everytime he tours and recites rhymes. He can probably memorize more bars than most rappers.
3. Why would he be a ghost writer or sell them to other people. What is this, Pop & RnB? GTFOutta here. Ghostwriting is frowned upon in Hip Hop.
Irrelevant.
Then why the fuck are you commenting on and judging his new album when you haven't even seen the promo vids and sample material? This is pitiful.
If you enjoy quality, yes. If you enjoy garbage, no.
Except most battle rappers aren't sabotaged and brutally battered by border patrol, slashed in the head and thrown in jail right before a battle. The man was in a goddamn sling with cranial stitches and you can't understand why he's not in the zone? Please.
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So...Canibus has a ShadyTeam, I see...
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