black people are hypocrites and in general lack critical thinking skills

[kzzl]

Bruh explain me why you got a BLACK president?

Your system is not 1000% racist and bigot.

Most of us have the choice in most of our lifes ' crossroads.

We must not forget what happened to us but for our ancestors sake we must progress.

No fucking Tparty guy forces you to have some baby daddy /mama.

No white supremacist pushes you to dumb and uneducated. No racist guy put a gun in your head so you eat that dirty food bruh.

I used to act like that. I used to say that since i m a nigga i was destined to loose programmed to hate niggas and myself. Once i started to take RESPONSIBILITY my life changed...

I am a black non commissioned officer in the french army. I ll be a future sexologist and criminologist. And i listen to hiphop and i sip and i fuck women and i cook.

I m no superman bruh i am just MOTIVATED. I have never been in the US so what? I used your HIP HOP to learn your language your slang.

It is all about who whants it the most!!

Every morning i listen to Pacs white mens world mobb deep shook ones

And TI go get it. After i am convinced that nobody but god can stop me or derail me from my agenda.

THIS WHAT I VE LEARN FROM THE US ARMY

INTERVENE ACT MOTIVATE bruh

@lemzola

We got a black president that used racism "change" to play with the hearts of american society. A cunning chess move IMO. Along with other factors I'd have to grab my tin foil hat to address, but I left that in the truck.

Yet still we have a black president that can't sit in his chair in the oval office with his feet on the desk without getting criticized by the media? Can't look at his white staff members without a smile on his face. With whites feeling the need to "take their country back" when a black president is in office? It's a shame to why a black president is such a big deal in the first place. He's there, but that don't mean the problem went away.

That's what they want us to think, so we'd stop calling them out on the bullshit they pull.

I've said multiple times that we have to take responsibility and forward our shit. But responsibility, motivation, and getting our act together isn't going solve everything. We'll still have to fight that monster of racist white supremacy in the end, before it's all said and done.

Besides, you're in France. Your'e going to learn what the US is really bout when you get here, though. You might even have to deal with bullshit from other blacks even, some of us are ignorant like that.

From my own personal experiences, I can tell you that racism bomb is a rude awakening to get. You're in denial to not say racism isn't THE problem. Or maybe you've been fortunate enough to not ever deal with it. But believe me, you're going to see some crazy shit. And you're going to wonder why blacks are the only ones getting blasted on tv for not behaving right.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Bruh explain me why you got a BLACK president?

Your system is not 1000% racist and bigot.

Most of us have the choice in most of our lifes ' crossroads.

We must not forget what happened to us but for our ancestors sake we must progress.

No fucking Tparty guy forces you to have some baby daddy /mama.

No white supremacist pushes you to dumb and uneducated. No racist guy put a gun in your head so you eat that dirty food bruh.

I used to act like that. I used to say that since i m a nigga i was destined to loose programmed to hate niggas and myself. Once i started to take RESPONSIBILITY my life changed...

I am a black non commissioned officer in the french army. I ll be a future sexologist and criminologist. And i listen to hiphop and i sip and i fuck women and i cook.

I m no superman bruh i am just MOTIVATED. I have never been in the US so what? I used your HIP HOP to learn your language your slang.

It is all about who whants it the most!!

Every morning i listen to Pacs white mens world mobb deep shook ones

And TI go get it. After i am convinced that nobody but god can stop me or derail me from my agenda.

THIS WHAT I VE LEARN FROM THE US ARMY

INTERVENE ACT MOTIVATE bruh

@lemzola

We got a black president that used racism "change" to play with the hearts of american society. A cunning chess move IMO. Along with other factors I'd have to grab my tin foil hat to address, but I left that in the truck.

Yet still we have a black president that can't sit in his chair in the oval office with his feet on the desk without getting criticized by the media? Can't look at his white staff members without a smile on his face. With whites feeling the need to "take their country back" when a black president is in office? It's a shame to why a black president is such a big deal in the first place. He's there, but that don't mean the problem went away.

That's what they want us to think, so we'd stop calling them out on the bullshit they pull.

I've said multiple times that we have to take responsibility and forward our shit. But responsibility, motivation, and getting our act together isn't going solve everything. We'll still have to fight that monster of racist white supremacy in the end, before it's all said and done.

Besides, you're in France. Your'e going to learn what the US is really bout when you get here, though. You might even have to deal with bullshit from other blacks even, some of us are ignorant like that.

From my own personal experiences, I can tell you that racism bomb is a rude awakening to get. You're in denial to not say racism isn't THE problem. Or maybe you've been fortunate enough to not ever deal with it. But believe me, you're going to see some crazy shit. And you're going to wonder why blacks are the only ones getting blasted on tv for not behaving right.

Bruh i agree 100%. Believe me when i say that besides police brutality it is the same system.

But we cannot freeze and cry.

Racism exist but black on black hate too! By being uneducated and making poor life choices we make half the job for the conservatives.

We go too often to the battle after we have destroyed our weapons and unity ourselves. And hip hop represent that mindstate at best. Hate

, women are bitches , destroying careers beefs znd dumbing down.

We are our own jim crow now. They just have to ignite a little now.

We must clean ourselves of the poison that dwell in our souls without forget to pump our fists

 

[Ajackson17]

Blacks will be alright when they turned into oozaros during the age of aqarius and wreck havoc.

 

[DrGo0]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

Also lets not forget the largest buyer and seller of hiphop are not black people...

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

I think that it is mutual

 

[manofmorehouse]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

Also lets not forget the largest buyer and seller of hiphop are not black people...

If this was the 80's, when rap/hiphop was actually social commentary, I would agree with your argument. However, in this day and age where rappers rent the houses, cars, and girls they claim they have and make up their criminal backgrounds and histories, it's hard to justify the "art imitating life" argument.

And while I agree with White people consuming rap more, WE tend to incorporate these lives. Whites dont have the burden of being stigmatized based on rap stereotypes. That shit is unfair and a ridiculous double standard but until things change, that is our reality. We have to collectively come together and stop seeking help from outside our race to heal us. When that happens we can move forward. We have already proven to be the strongest race in the world. We need to start acting like it and let go of the bulshit

 

[DrGo0]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

I think that it is mutual

not really. If you really look at the issues that black people faced before hiphop it's largely the same. It's not like hiphop created the problem.

These issues are part of a bigger problem that people who just want to place blame will fail to see..

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

I think that it is mutual

not really. If you really look at the issues that black people faced before hiphop it's largely the same. It's not like hiphop created the problem.

These issues are part of a bigger problem that people who just want to place blame will fail to see..

Bruh i said that hiphop is a representation of what plagues us... no way it will the cause... but by listening only i am able to list those problems.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Chinese emperors use to listen to the music so they could see which population was on the verge of revolting againt them.

By listening to hiphop you can point out whats wrong and good with us without puting your foot in ghettos... that s tha magic of art.

 

[DrGo0]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

Also lets not forget the largest buyer and seller of hiphop are not black people...

If this was the 80's, when rap/hiphop was actually social commentary, I would agree with your argument. However, in this day and age where rappers rent the houses, cars, and girls they claim they have and make up their criminal backgrounds and histories, it's hard to justify the "art imitating life" argument.

And while I agree with White people consuming rap more, WE tend to incorporate these lives. Whites dont have the burden of being stigmatized based on rap stereotypes. That shit is unfair and a ridiculous double standard but until things change, that is our reality. We have to collectively come together and stop seeking help from outside our race to heal us. When that happens we can move forward. We have already proven to be the strongest race in the world. We need to start acting like it and let go of the bulshit

You are essentially making my point. In these times the people "respect" people with criminal backgrounds so the artist makes up stories about their criminal background to fit in. If the culture didn't respect these people they would be trying other things to fit in. This is a clear case of the real world forcing the artist to conform.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

also I enjoy how people act like hiphop is the reason for anything. Art historically very rarely starts trends out of the blue. Art is largely a reaction to the times. These artists are not causing people to do things. The people are inspiring the artists to do things.

Also lets not forget the largest buyer and seller of hiphop are not black people...

If this was the 80's, when rap/hiphop was actually social commentary, I would agree with your argument. However, in this day and age where rappers rent the houses, cars, and girls they claim they have and make up their criminal backgrounds and histories, it's hard to justify the "art imitating life" argument.

And while I agree with White people consuming rap more, WE tend to incorporate these lives. Whites dont have the burden of being stigmatized based on rap stereotypes. That shit is unfair and a ridiculous double standard but until things change, that is our reality. We have to collectively come together and stop seeking help from outside our race to heal us. When that happens we can move forward. We have already proven to be the strongest race in the world. We need to start acting like it and let go of the bulshit

You are essentially making my point. In these times the people "respect" people with criminal backgrounds so the artist makes up stories about their criminal background to fit in. If the culture didn't respect these people they would be trying other things to fit in. This is a clear case of the real world forcing the artist to conform.

It more than the criminal background.

You can see the through hiphop the way we look at women. You can see the way we look at material stuffs. You can see the way we are quick to separate each other. You can see the hate.

Ironically a poster was talking to me how haters are good and necessary to advance...

He does not want to be surrounded with critics he likes to see jalous people next to him... smh

 

[kingblaze84]

My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.

I think Don Lemon and the intelligent Blacks that support his stance have seen the results of waiting for Whites to realize they are in the wrong and for them to change their ways. Guess what? That shit ain't happening. I agree with your belief that whites have fucked us over time and time again and continue to do so. So why are we, as a collective, continually looking to them for answers on how to fix us?? That's what I don't get with people constantly bringing whites into this argument. Don Lemon didn't inject whites into the conversation, his detractors did. We have a responsibility to fix ourselves for US. To build better legacies of Black pride for US. To circulate black dollars in black businesses for US. If we can figure out how to do that, how would White's opinions of us affect us?? Our reality now is that we have to obtain the means to do so. That means dressing respectable and acting respectable. That is the big picture people fail to notice

Excellent point, although I think Don Lemon went too far in what he said......

 

[kingblaze84]

My only beef with this thread is that it is generalizing Blacks to a large extent. By reading this thread, an ignorant person would say, "wow Black people as a whole really are hypocrites and lack critical thinking skills". If one was to say some or many Blacks suffer from this, yes I would agree.

Anyway, from my observation, it seems the problems of SOME in the Black community is too many reckless baby mamas raising their kids horribly, without being able to afford them. Same with dads bringing kids up in the world without being able to afford them. It creates a terrible cycle, making young kids look at the world negatively because they don't have parents who are there for them enough. Kids shouldn't be raising kids, and broke people shouldn't be raising kids IF they are not in a committed relationship or have a good job and or education behind them. Most of the problems would be solved in the Black community if the broke/young people having kids would not be having kids.

Of course there are other issues like racism and the like but the issues I brought up above are the biggest reasons why so many Blacks are fucked in America. My two cents.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

My only beef with this thread is that it is generalizing Blacks to a large extent. By reading this thread, an ignorant person would say, "wow Black people as a whole really are hypocrites and lack critical thinking skills". If one was to say some or many Blacks suffer from this, yes I would agree.

Anyway, from my observation, it seems the problems of SOME in the Black community is too many reckless baby mamas raising their kids horribly, without being able to afford them. Same with dads bringing kids up in the world without being able to afford them. It creates a terrible cycle, making young kids look at the world negatively because they don't have parents who are there for them enough. Kids shouldn't be raising kids, and broke people shouldn't be raising kids IF they are not in a committed relationship or have a good job and or education behind them. Most of the problems would be solved in the Black community if the broke/young people having kids would not be having kids.

Values and knowledge transmission doesnt require is to be rich.

You can live with one parent and progress. It all about the transmission of values such as hard work self respect team work critics over hating etc...

 

[desertrain10]

 

[desertrain10]

T/s

Though his comments were simple minded and ignorant...

its been expressed numerous of times by numerous posters that don lemons comments arent nessarily what makes him a coon, but what he didnt say and the forum which he chose to deliver this "tough love"

Never mind the country’s history of institutional racism and systematic oppressionm which he failed to address

The people who may need the message arent even checking for CNN

Not to mention changing our style of dress and speech won’t help the real-life issues black people face like voter suppression, blk unemployment and racial profiling considering one cannot change the color of their skin

Smh

He just seemed insincere and came across as though he was grandstanding. And its not as if blk people havent been subjected to the same lecture for years and years now so what he said wasnt anything new or should be considered couragous

And Its funny but don lemon would have a fit had some media person gotten on tv telling gays that homophobia is mostly a thing of the past, and that dressing flamboyantly and gay PDA is the source of all their problems

 

[kingblaze84]

My only beef with this thread is that it is generalizing Blacks to a large extent. By reading this thread, an ignorant person would say, "wow Black people as a whole really are hypocrites and lack critical thinking skills". If one was to say some or many Blacks suffer from this, yes I would agree.

Anyway, from my observation, it seems the problems of SOME in the Black community is too many reckless baby mamas raising their kids horribly, without being able to afford them. Same with dads bringing kids up in the world without being able to afford them. It creates a terrible cycle, making young kids look at the world negatively because they don't have parents who are there for them enough. Kids shouldn't be raising kids, and broke people shouldn't be raising kids IF they are not in a committed relationship or have a good job and or education behind them. Most of the problems would be solved in the Black community if the broke/young people having kids would not be having kids.

Values and knowledge transmission doesnt require is to be rich.

You can live with one parent and progress. It all about the transmission of values such as hard work self respect team work critics over hating etc...

I agree people don't have to be rich to raise kids right but they shouldn't be broke or uneducated while having kids either. Kids who grow up in poverty stricken homes are more likely to be desperate for money and commit to a life of crime. It's very rare for kids who grow up in homes where both parents are educated and are not in poverty to live thug life. There's always exceptions but usually, it's kids who grow up in broken homes where education isn't valued who grow up to the never ending cycle of crime, violence, and violent death. Being raised by one parent is fine, as long as the parent isn't desperate for money and can instill education at an early age.....too many households are filled with knuckleheads who can't even raise themselves, worse raise a young child.....

 

[Star Nine]

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smfh Russel Simmons allowed this shit

 

[Say What]

My only beef with this thread is that it is generalizing Blacks to a large extent. By reading this thread, an ignorant person would say, "wow Black people as a whole really are hypocrites and lack critical thinking skills". If one was to say some or many Blacks suffer from this, yes I would agree.

Anyway, from my observation, it seems the problems of SOME in the Black community is too many reckless baby mamas raising their kids horribly, without being able to afford them. Same with dads bringing kids up in the world without being able to afford them. It creates a terrible cycle, making young kids look at the world negatively because they don't have parents who are there for them enough. Kids shouldn't be raising kids, and broke people shouldn't be raising kids IF they are not in a committed relationship or have a good job and or education behind them. Most of the problems would be solved in the Black community if the broke/young people having kids would not be having kids.

Values and knowledge transmission doesnt require is to be rich.

You can live with one parent and progress. It all about the transmission of values such as hard work self respect team work critics over hating etc...

I agree people don't have to be rich to raise kids right but they shouldn't be broke or uneducated while having kids either. Kids who grow up in poverty stricken homes are more likely to be desperate for money and commit to a life of crime. It's very rare for kids who grow up in homes where both parents are educated and are not in poverty to live thug life. There's always exceptions but usually, it's kids who grow up in broken homes where education isn't valued who grow up to the never ending cycle of crime, violence, and violent death. Being raised by one parent is fine, as long as the parent isn't desperate for money and can instill education at an early age.....too many households are filled with knuckleheads who can't even raise themselves, worse raise a young child.....

So poor people can't reproduce? Rich people don't avoid crime its more about they don't have as many opportunities to get into illegal action. Poor people do it more out of desperation and it is learned behavior. They commit their own crimes and don't get punished as hard where poor people of all races are treated different. ME Dyson is a successful professor & his brother is in jail for life. Sometimes people make bad choices all alone.

 

[Ajackson17]

Rich people commit immoral and unethical behavior across the world, even though it maybe legal it doesn't mean it's moral or ethical. So the game is do we need a collective mindset or individual or something that it's in between the two?