black people are hypocrites and in general lack critical thinking skills

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damobb2deep;6106367 said:
Halfabrick;6106323 said:
@damobb2deep

if u think I lack critical thinking skills read some of my posts with a unbiased thought process...

btw why is yo name halfabrick when yo posting style is nowhere near hood?

So i cant be intelligent and be from the hood now? You see people it's thanks to baboons like @damobb2deep why the black community is in decline
 
Halfabrick;6106379 said:
damobb2deep;6106367 said:
Halfabrick;6106323 said:
@damobb2deep

if u think I lack critical thinking skills read some of my posts with a unbiased thought process...

btw why is yo name halfabrick when yo posting style is nowhere near hood?

So i cant be intelligent and be from the hood now? You see people it's thanks to baboons like @damobb2deep why the black community is in decline

read that post again and show me where I said u cant be from the hood?
 
damobb2deep;6106389 said:
Halfabrick;6106379 said:
damobb2deep;6106367 said:
Halfabrick;6106323 said:
@damobb2deep

if u think I lack critical thinking skills read some of my posts with a unbiased thought process...

btw why is yo name halfabrick when yo posting style is nowhere near hood?

So i cant be intelligent and be from the hood now? You see people it's thanks to baboons like @damobb2deep why the black community is in decline

read that post again and show me where I said u cant be from the hood?

that's basically what you meant
 
Halfabrick;6106391 said:
damobb2deep;6106389 said:
Halfabrick;6106379 said:
damobb2deep;6106367 said:
Halfabrick;6106323 said:
@damobb2deep

if u think I lack critical thinking skills read some of my posts with a unbiased thought process...

btw why is yo name halfabrick when yo posting style is nowhere near hood?

So i cant be intelligent and be from the hood now? You see people it's thanks to baboons like @damobb2deep why the black community is in decline

read that post again and show me where I said u cant be from the hood?

that's basically what you meant

umm no its not...
 
our problem is that we only the cause of our ills in the outside (racism, jim crow, slavery). we have to see what's wrong with us too in order to completly improve.

 
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.
 
Wild Willie in the A;6106338 said:
kzzl;6106313 said:
Wild Willie in the A;6106234 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

But you gotta start somewhere, Don Lemon just put forth some starting points and like usual people were distracted by one thing or another and we're back to square one. Why not say "those are some good points Don Lemon made, we can start with that, now here are some other issues we need to figure out a way to tackle."

I don't trust the media. As my grandmother would say, "Even the devil would loan you a dollar."

Then refers to bill o'reilly of all people as saying something prolific. He's constantly dragged our culture through the mud and now this white boy knows how to save the negroes? Like blacks ain't been trying to get right and teach kids better for years already? Sounds like another hollywood slave movie.

I don't know lemon. Has he done anything about police brutality? The on going "war on drugs"? Have there been a consistent set of segments he's hosted to show he's really just giving tough love? Or did he just suddenly get the urge to do the right thing? If he continues to speak on such issues and tell the whole story from here on out, I'll consider him legit maybe.

But I've seen enough of o'reilly and faux to know they ain't shit to be co-signing. My pride won't let me. Especially when it's the same shit I, we, have already be saying for years. I won't give such an enemy the luxury. False prophets... we already know how that ends.

So you as well as many other people just let the messenger distract you from the message, legit or not?

The message is older that he is. He ain't the first, he ain't the last, and he's far from credible. Even I've been telling people the same message for years as it was already passed down to me. By real people that understood the real problems.

Dude is spam mail far as I'm concerned right now.
 
kzzl;6106451 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.

I think Don Lemon and the intelligent Blacks that support his stance have seen the results of waiting for Whites to realize they are in the wrong and for them to change their ways. Guess what? That shit ain't happening. I agree with your belief that whites have fucked us over time and time again and continue to do so. So why are we, as a collective, continually looking to them for answers on how to fix us?? That's what I don't get with people constantly bringing whites into this argument. Don Lemon didn't inject whites into the conversation, his detractors did. We have a responsibility to fix ourselves for US. To build better legacies of Black pride for US. To circulate black dollars in black businesses for US. If we can figure out how to do that, how would White's opinions of us affect us?? Our reality now is that we have to obtain the means to do so. That means dressing respectable and acting respectable. That is the big picture people fail to notice
 
Wild Willie in the A;6106264 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

NOPE!!!!

I suggest you look up the documentary on Planned Parenthood. There's a book as well, but I can't recall it. It's the in the video, though. Never the less, the black family was targeted years ago.
 
kzzl;6106479 said:
Wild Willie in the A;6106264 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

NOPE!!!!

I suggest you look up the documentary on Planned Parenthood. There's a book as well, but I can't recall it. It's the in the video, though. Never the less, the black family was targeted years ago.

Fam how old are you? You're so lost it's sad

 
manofmorehouse;6106478 said:
kzzl;6106451 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.

I think Don Lemon and the intelligent Blacks that support his stance have seen the results of waiting for Whites to realize they are in the wrong and for them to change their ways. Guess what? That shit ain't happening. I agree with your belief that whites have fucked us over time and time again and continue to do so. So why are we, as a collective, continually looking to them for answers on how to fix us?? That's what I don't get with people constantly bringing whites into this argument. Don Lemon didn't inject whites into the conversation, his detractors did. We have a responsibility to fix ourselves for US. To build better legacies of Black pride for US. To circulate black dollars in black businesses for US. If we can figure out how to do that, how would White's opinions of us affect us?? Our reality now is that we have to obtain the means to do so. That means dressing respectable and acting respectable. That is the big picture people fail to notice

 
kzzl;6106479 said:
Wild Willie in the A;6106264 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

NOPE!!!!

I suggest you look up the documentary on Planned Parenthood. There's a book as well, but I can't recall it. It's the in the video, though. Never the less, the black family was targeted years ago.

yeah, so everyone is brainwashed into having unprotected sex with deadbeat ass niggas...yeah...okay. Its up to ourselves not to fall into the trap. I'm a black man, married to a black woman for 10+ years and most of all of my freinds are married and dont have kids out of wedlock either....
 
manofmorehouse;6106478 said:
kzzl;6106451 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.

I think Don Lemon and the intelligent Blacks that support his stance have seen the results of waiting for Whites to realize they are in the wrong and for them to change their ways. Guess what? That shit ain't happening. I agree with your belief that whites have fucked us over time and time again and continue to do so. So why are we, as a collective, continually looking to them for answers on how to fix us?? That's what I don't get with people constantly bringing whites into this argument. Don Lemon didn't inject whites into the conversation, his detractors did. We have a responsibility to fix ourselves for US. To build better legacies of Black pride for US. To circulate black dollars in black businesses for US. If we can figure out how to do that, how would White's opinions of us affect us?? Our reality now is that we have to obtain the means to do so. That means dressing respectable and acting respectable. That is the big picture people fail to notice

Well, that's a wrong impression I'm giving. I'm not trying to tell people to look to whites for help, I'm trying to tell them that racist whites never had our best interest in mind in the first place. That from the patterns I've seen, are determined to only maintain their best interest.

The other point I'm making and trying to grasp myself, is if we really can accomplish the things we want to happen. Cause I don't know to be honest. Their opinion of us has already affected so much on our history. We would be foolish to under estimate it now. Whether we like it or not, they're opinion matters. It's clear they don't respect ours, nor our lives from what I've gathered. I mean, if getting money was truly the route to go, why does a tragedy like black wall street exist. Can we really say that kind of thing won't happen once blacks start stacking and circulating our own paper again?
 
Halfabrick;6106487 said:
Fam how old are you? You're so lost it's sad

Wild Willie in the A;6106510 said:
yeah, so everyone is brainwashed into having unprotected sex with deadbeat ass niggas...yeah...okay. Its up to ourselves not to fall into the trap. I'm a black man, married to a black woman for 10+ years and most of all of my freinds are married and dont have kids out of wedlock either....

Yeah, I get your point, now try to find mine. It's an informative movie. Invite your married friends over to join you even. If you've already watched it, prove it wrong.
 
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Halfabrick;6106083 said:
the kkk doesn't even need to kill black people anymore young black people are killing young black people

Yep, like Pac said, "Its not them that's killing us, its us that's killing us."

 
It all boils to poor culture. Poor people make poor decisions i.e. killing each other over dumb stuff, not going to school, and having babies early.

Poor people have kids, and they emulate the poor people around them.

Any discussion about this topic must also be about slavery and and all the historic racism through out the us.

It also has to be about the current racism that even qualified black people are ignored for high paying jobs.

It also has to be about the fact black people are all different.

Yes there are black people who are fucking shit up, but you have no right to treat me like I'm suspect.
 
Halfabrick;500185 said:
We as a race are such hypocrites and a perfect example of this is in the don lemon thread.

Who is Don Lemon? I don’t think that I want to know who Don Lemon is. Nevermind.

Halfabrick;500185 said:
the reason why i chose to make this thread and not in grown and sexy is because you cant have a logical discussion in there.

Lol, this is true.

Halfabrick;500185 said:
As soon as someone black critisiese the black community other black people call the person a coon and a sellout ect

Not always. It depends on how and in what context the criticism is said. I don’t think too many people are calling Chuck D and KRS-One coons even though others like Bill Cosby might be called coons because they seem old and bitter about it. I don’t know.

Halfabrick;500185 said:
when the real coons are the priests and some of these rappers who hold power in the black community. Why aren't these so called priests bringing up the black problems in the black community at church? Because they dont care they dont even live in the hood they live in the suburbs.

I think that’s unfair and too common. We can’t blame churches. And God knows we’ve been blaming rap music for decades now. It’s not their fault. It’s our fault. People need to hold themselves accountable. And just because they live in the suburbs doesn’t discredit anything that they might do. But it’s true that you might not be able to truly understand the problem if you don’t experience it where it’s at.

Halfabrick;500185 said:
We all know what the problems the black community has yet we continue to do the same thing over and over. For eaxmple we all know and see what single parent households has done to the black community yet these black females continue to have babies with these shit guys. How can any female of self value have several kids by several guys

I think that that particular problem is made up of a lot of other smaller and bigger problems. I won’t say that those women intentionally do what they do knowing the negative effects that might result. It’s part of a system? Systems are deeply rooted and hard to destroy.

 
Come on people. Since WE know that we are target, why on fuckin earth do we keep getting shot again and again?

Looks like some of us like to be treat ed like that imo.

No more excuses !! We have to act up period.

Our kidds get shot in the hood at midnight. Lets keep them in hour houses with books. The obesity is killing us. Let s reduce that junk food shit . And please stop wiht the ' i got no time to cook bruh ' excuse

More values more knowledge less sneakers burger king and alcohol.

Use condoms and stop that baby moma crap. We are DON IMUSing our women everyday.

It s up to me to you to us. Nobody else will do that for us.
 
kzzl;6106451 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

My point has never been to stress about black on black crime. Black on black genocide is a definite problem of course. Yes we do have a responsibility to that as well. That's common sense, anybody can see that already. We have our part to be accountable for.

What you, and lemon, seem to be dancing from is the hand that racism plays in the bigger picture as well. In fact, it is the picture. I'm you can't just blame the niggas, ignoring the elephant in the room. Cause that seems to be all you do. In every post you make on these subjects, you just blame the niggas.

You're trying the whole "pull up your boot straps" routine, but they took the laces out of them before they gave them to us. How many more black people have to attempt to unite and die, before you realize this isn't just about a pocket full of stones and bad bitches. We're in this situation cause they want us to be from what history has shown.

Bruh explain me why you got a BLACK president?

Your system is not 1000% racist and bigot.

Most of us have the choice in most of our lifes ' crossroads.

We must not forget what happened to us but for our ancestors sake we must progress.

No fucking Tparty guy forces you to have some baby daddy /mama.

No white supremacist pushes you to dumb and uneducated. No racist guy put a gun in your head so you eat that dirty food bruh.

I used to act like that. I used to say that since i m a nigga i was destined to loose programmed to hate niggas and myself. Once i started to take RESPONSIBILITY my life changed...

I am a black non commissioned officer in the french army. I ll be a future sexologist and criminologist. And i listen to hiphop and i sip and i fuck women and i cook.

I m no superman bruh i am just MOTIVATED. I have never been in the US so what? I used your HIP HOP to learn your language your slang.

It is all about who whants it the most!!

Every morning i listen to Pacs white mens world mobb deep shook ones

And TI go get it. After i am convinced that nobody but god can stop me or derail me from my agenda.

THIS WHAT I VE LEARN FROM THE US ARMY

INTERVENE ACT MOTIVATE bruh

 

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