black people are hypocrites and in general lack critical thinking skills

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Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail. The black communtiy needs to clean up it's act, but it's the hate of racist white america that still leaves us uncertain if we'll be able to fully gain the control we need of our community.

I've 400+ years of evidence to prove that.

 
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Wild Willie in the A;6106159 said:
IMO....part of the problem is we black people still try and equate racism to a simple black and white thing, when that is not the case anymore. Racism has evolved past the 50's and 60's..hell even the 90's...Racism now is not about black or white, its Societal Racism...upper class vs middle class vs lower class

Not really. It's always been about upper vs. middle class/lower class. It's just black people have to deal with both forms of "racism." You still need to be 10 times better than your white counterpart to get the same job.
 
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

 
I think the real issue people have with what Don Lemon said is that it hit way too close to home. People don't want to recognize that they are a large part of their own problems. Racism is very real and still affects us to a large degree. But we as a community have been dumbed down by reality shows, alcohol and drugs, and the welfare system. As a huge fan of rap (conscious and ignorant) I can say that it is detrimental to our community. Mature adult are able to take what rappers say and decipher the bullshit from the real, but rap is marketed to young kids who take all the bullshit spewed nowadays to be fact. Rap is how kids learn to dress, how to talk, and what to value. It's sad
 
NothingButTheTruth;6106194 said:
Wild Willie in the A;6106159 said:
IMO....part of the problem is we black people still try and equate racism to a simple black and white thing, when that is not the case anymore. Racism has evolved past the 50's and 60's..hell even the 90's...Racism now is not about black or white, its Societal Racism...upper class vs middle class vs lower class

Not really. It's always been about upper vs. middle class/lower class. It's just black people have to deal with both forms of "racism." You still need to be 10 times better than your white counterpart to get the same job.

Which is why we need and should stick together and create our own jobs just look at our minorities they create their own hoods and companies and businesses and only employ people from their own country
 
back to what @Halfabrick first brought up, a clear example of black people lacking critical thinking skills is the arguement I've heard soooooo many times over the last few weeks, which is "he had the right to be there"... I've tried to rationalize to many different people over the course of several seperate incidents that "having the right" to do something or be somewhere has nothing to do with anything. Simple conflict resolution can avoid alot of things.
 
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

 
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

But you gotta start somewhere, Don Lemon just put forth some starting points and like usual people were distracted by one thing or another and we're back to square one. Why not say "those are some good points Don Lemon made, we can start with that, now here are some other issues we need to figure out a way to tackle."

 
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

 
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

NOPE!!!!
 
Wild Willie in the A;6106264 said:
Halfabrick;6106240 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

Like i said before i already said racism exist BEFORE you explained in detail. You among other black people have this blame every thing on race solution without seeing the whole picture. Is it racism that forces black on black crime or the degeneration of the black female or forcing black children to be brought up in a single parent household?

this is what @kzzl and other black people fail to see THE BIGGER PCITURE. And it what you have those black leaders who manipulate people like kzzl for their own advantage. Many of these black leaders are rich and don't even live in the hood
 
NothingButTheTruth;6106165 said:
The Lonious Monk;6106115 said:
NothingButTheTruth;6106097 said:
We can't be grouped together. We're all different. Black people are what you would call, a group of individuals.

.... Also this whole conversation is a big distraction. Worry about your part of the world, not the world in its entirety. If you get to a position where you can influence others, then act accordingly.

Except that whole stance is false. If people thought that way, the Civil Rights movement never would have occurred. Just because you're different doesn't mean you can't stand for and work towards a common cause.

You're taking it out of context. I'm talking about now in 2013. In 2013, we are a group of individuals. We all have completely different stances when it comes to race relations, equality, problems in the black community etc. Some of us think there's a lot of work to be done, some of us think we've made it, some of us think everything is fine... and the list goes on and on.

Basically, there are too many chiefs right now. Because of this, my solution is for everyone to worry about their part of the world, unless they're in a position to EFFECTIVELY influence people on a larger scale.

I didn't take what you said out of context. You think everyone during the Civil Rights era agreed on what should be done or how it should be done? Of course not. That didn't stop them from obtaining the goal, and it wouldn't stop us if we actually tried. And how exactly does your view differ from what's currently being done? It sounds to me like you're an advocate for maintaining the status quo and hoping it all works out for the best for everyone.
 
Wild Willie in the A;6106234 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

But you gotta start somewhere, Don Lemon just put forth some starting points and like usual people were distracted by one thing or another and we're back to square one. Why not say "those are some good points Don Lemon made, we can start with that, now here are some other issues we need to figure out a way to tackle."

I don't trust the media. As my grandmother would say, "Even the devil would loan you a dollar."

Then refers to bill o'reilly of all people as saying something prolific. He's constantly dragged our culture through the mud and now this white boy knows how to save the negroes? Like blacks ain't been trying to get right and teach kids better for years already? Sounds like another hollywood slave movie.

I don't know lemon. Has he done anything about police brutality? The on going "war on drugs"? Have there been a consistent set of segments he's hosted to show he's really just giving tough love? Or did he just suddenly get the urge to do the right thing? If he continues to speak on such issues and tell the whole story from here on out, I'll consider him legit maybe.

But I've seen enough of o'reilly and faux to know they ain't shit to be co-signing. My pride won't let me. Especially when it's the same shit I, we, have already be saying for years. I won't give such an enemy the luxury. False prophets... we already know how that ends.
 
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kzzl;6106313 said:
Wild Willie in the A;6106234 said:
kzzl;6106220 said:
Halfabrick;6106196 said:
kzzl;6106187 said:
Halfabrick;6106143 said:
kzzl;6106126 said:
Halfabrick;6106079 said:
kzzl;6106059 said:
My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.



He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.

But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".

Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community

How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.

There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.

What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.

You never deconstructed what I said you just simply reworded a few things to make it sound like you did. I already acknowledged racism is a problem and it exists. But the picture is far bigger than just white people hating black people. it's not Racism that is causing all this destructive behavior done by black people to black people

You bolded that me saying racism was an issue wasn't true. I explained to you one of the reasons I think it is in detail.

You're misunderstand my first response to you. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED racism existed before you explained in detail

And as I said to that response, simply cleaning up the community may not be enough. As I tried to convey in that response, there's a bigger issue at hand that still may prevent a rising community. A bigger issue that has done so many times in the past to stop it. Focusing on black genocide is not the only, nor greatest obstacle we face.

But you gotta start somewhere, Don Lemon just put forth some starting points and like usual people were distracted by one thing or another and we're back to square one. Why not say "those are some good points Don Lemon made, we can start with that, now here are some other issues we need to figure out a way to tackle."

I don't trust the media. As my grandmother would say, "Even the devil would loan you a dollar."

Then refers to bill o'reilly of all people as saying something prolific. He's constantly dragged our culture through the mud and now this white boy knows how to save the negroes? Like blacks ain't been trying to get right and teach kids better for years already? Sounds like another hollywood slave movie.

I don't know lemon. Has he done anything about police brutality? The on going "war on drugs"? Have there been a consistent set of segments he's hosted to show he's really just giving tough love? Or did he just suddenly get the urge to do the right thing? If he continues to speak on such issues and tell the whole story from here on out, I'll consider him legit maybe.

But I've seen enough of o'reilly and faux to know they ain't shit to be co-signing. My pride won't let me. Especially when it's the same shit I, we, have already be saying for years. I won't give such an enemy the luxury. False prophets... we already know how that ends.

So you as well as many other people just let the messenger distract you from the message, legit or not?
 
Halfabrick;6106323 said:
@damobb2deep

if u think I lack critical thinking skills read some of my posts with a unbiased thought process...

btw why is yo name halfabrick when yo posting style is nowhere near hood?
 

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