Wild Willie in the A
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Wild Willie in the A;6105971 said:troll......... lol...lol.. nah just kidding I feel ya, cant disagree with some of these ninjas on this site for shit!!
The Lonious Monk;6106023 said:I can't lie. I feel this was too sometimes.
I also believe black people as a group are too sheepish. It's like everyone is waiting for someone to tell them what to do. That's why the church is still so big in the Black community. It's not that people are that spiritual, which would be fine. It's that they like and basically need to have that place where they can go find an authority that will instruct them in everything they should do and they'll blindly follow.
The hypocrisy part is the worse to be though because I hate hypocrisy. I can't stand the so called pro-black people who will spend hours ranting about all the bad shit that white people say and do and then turn around and say and do all that stuff in reference to other races. It's disgusting.
kzzl;6106059 said:My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.
He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.
But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".
Halfabrick;6106061 said:The Lonious Monk;6106023 said:I can't lie. I feel this was too sometimes.
I also believe black people as a group are too sheepish. It's like everyone is waiting for someone to tell them what to do. That's why the church is still so big in the Black community. It's not that people are that spiritual, which would be fine. It's that they like and basically need to have that place where they can go find an authority that will instruct them in everything they should do and they'll blindly follow.
The hypocrisy part is the worse to be though because I hate hypocrisy. I can't stand the so called pro-black people who will spend hours ranting about all the bad shit that white people say and do and then turn around and say and do all that stuff in reference to other races. It's disgusting.
some of these pro black people are such hypocrisies have any of these so called pro black people even gone into the hoods where black on black crime is very high to preach?
The Lonious Monk;6106092 said:Halfabrick;6106061 said:The Lonious Monk;6106023 said:I can't lie. I feel this was too sometimes.
I also believe black people as a group are too sheepish. It's like everyone is waiting for someone to tell them what to do. That's why the church is still so big in the Black community. It's not that people are that spiritual, which would be fine. It's that they like and basically need to have that place where they can go find an authority that will instruct them in everything they should do and they'll blindly follow.
The hypocrisy part is the worse to be though because I hate hypocrisy. I can't stand the so called pro-black people who will spend hours ranting about all the bad shit that white people say and do and then turn around and say and do all that stuff in reference to other races. It's disgusting.
some of these pro black people are such hypocrisies have any of these so called pro black people even gone into the hoods where black on black crime is very high to preach?
I can't speak for all, but I know of the ones I met, the louder they barked their bullshit, the less they actually did to help. I mean there was a classic example when I was in college. There was this one dude that was Black this and Black that always, and another guy that was a little whitewashed on account of him growing up around white people. Well the Pro Black dude always used to give him a hard time. He called him every name in the book. But when you really looked at the two, all the Pro black dude ever did was read books, take classes, and run his mouth while the "Sellout" volunteered regularly at the poor black school down the street tutoring and taking part in their fundraisers.
NothingButTheTruth;6106097 said:We can't be grouped together. We're all different. Black people are what you would call, a group of individuals.
.... Also this whole conversation is a big distraction. Worry about your part of the world, not the world in its entirety. If you get to a position where you can influence others, then act accordingly.
Halfabrick;6106079 said:kzzl;6106059 said:My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.
He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.
But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".
Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community
Halfabrick;500185 said:We as a race are such hypocrites and a perfect example of this is in the don lemon thread. the reason why i chose to make this thread and not in grown and sexy is because you cant have a logical discussion in there. As soon as someone black critisiese the black community other black people call the person a coon and a sellout ect when the real coons are the priests and some of these rappers who hold power in the black community. Why aren't these so called priests bringing up the black problems in the black community at church? Because they dont care they dont even live in the hood they live in the suburbs.
We all know what the problems the black community has yet we continue to do the same thing over and over. For eaxmple we all know and see what single parent households has done to the black community yet these black females continue to have babies with these shit guys. How can any female of self value have several kids by several guys
kzzl;6106126 said:Halfabrick;6106079 said:kzzl;6106059 said:My criticism of don lemon stems from me questioning the true intent of his criticism. We know these problems exist, we know they need to be corrected. Efforts are being made. But the segment struck me as condescending blame to our culture for our injustice in this country. Cause it ain't our culture that's bringing the constant injustice towards our people, it's the racism of this country.
He simply tried to feed us the same stereotypes society uses against us, which is some uncle tom shit. They're claiming that the dudes a faggot anyway. If that's true, he should know enough about discrimination to not just start pointing fingers with typical deflections that distract from the real issue.
But that's what house niggas do. Put down other blacks and tell master, "we's sho' told them, masa".
Since you actually took time to write a civil reply. Ill reply to waht you said. This here is not true what black people do not see is whole picture does racism exist? yes but we ourselves are far more destructive just look around how the black on black crime the church single parent household is destroying black community
How is that not true? Racism is the bigger problem here.
There are destructive factors in our community. I'd like to say that solving all these problems would solve the rest. But the fact is that we can't really say that. We can't say that up lifting the black community is going to do us any good when great men have tried that already. They tried and were killed as a result. Men far more educated, disciplined, and versed in the power voice than any of us. They didn't wear baggy clothes, they weren't in the trap house, they were the complete opposite of our modern stereotypes. Still they were hated and murdered by the hundreds in the past.
What's to say that donning a suit, reading a few books, and going cold turkey is going to change anything. No amount of education and fancy clothes is going to change that we're black. And when it's their hate for the color of our skin that started all this you can't just point the blame at hip hop culture and loose women.
The Lonious Monk;6106115 said:NothingButTheTruth;6106097 said:We can't be grouped together. We're all different. Black people are what you would call, a group of individuals.
.... Also this whole conversation is a big distraction. Worry about your part of the world, not the world in its entirety. If you get to a position where you can influence others, then act accordingly.
Except that whole stance is false. If people thought that way, the Civil Rights movement never would have occurred. Just because you're different doesn't mean you can't stand for and work towards a common cause.
NothingButTheTruth;6106165 said:The Lonious Monk;6106115 said:NothingButTheTruth;6106097 said:We can't be grouped together. We're all different. Black people are what you would call, a group of individuals.
.... Also this whole conversation is a big distraction. Worry about your part of the world, not the world in its entirety. If you get to a position where you can influence others, then act accordingly.
Except that whole stance is false. If people thought that way, the Civil Rights movement never would have occurred. Just because you're different doesn't mean you can't stand for and work towards a common cause.
You're taking it out of context. I'm talking about now in 2013. In 2013, we are a group of individuals. We all have completely different stances when it comes to race relations, equality, problems in the black community etc. Some of us think there's a lot of work to be done, some of us think we've made it, some of us think everything is fine... and the list goes on and on.
Basically, there are too many chiefs right now. Because of this, my solution is for everyone to worry about their part of the world, unless they're in a position to EFFECTIVELY influence people on a larger scale.