evoljeanyes
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Odin wins trigon has been beaten by the teen titans
evoljeanyes
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But no love for Trigon.
The Lonious Monk
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I would think he's more comparable to Dormammu than Shuma right?
evoljeanyes
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He has very low showings...and his daughter has haded it to him several times.
DarkRaiden
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Trigon's far above Odin. The Presence makes deals with this nigga to keep him in check. God. Trigon just came to earth, and already slumped the Justice League with his presence. Odin rules Asgard and destroys Galaxies. Trigon rules over 30+ universes and destroys universes. It's not close. He's not Shuma, but he's like Cyttorak strong, above Galactus, below Shuma.
evoljeanyes
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@darkraiden Odin just has far less low showings than Trigon....trigonometry also fluctuates a ton...Odin wins
DarkRaiden
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@jaxn nah. Dormammu's around Odin, true, and galactus is more powerful than them, but Shuma's universe to multiverse level. Shuma, the leader of the Many Angled Ones, made the Galactus Engine and had Sise-neg shook to fight him. Same Sise-neg that recreated the Marvel Universe/Multiverse right afterwards. He's far, far above Galactus.
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I just want to point out that just because a being rules/destroys multiple universes or dimensions doesn't mean they are automatically stronger than people who don't. Galactus has no desire to rule or destroy a universe, so Trigon having done that in the past is not automatic proof he trumps Galactus in power. Let's not forget that the Universal Nullifier is an aspect of Galactus' own power. Reed Richards was able to use it to destroy and restart the universe, and he himself commented that what he did with itwould pale in comparsion to what someone like Galactus could do with it. The point being is that if Galactus wanted to destroy the universe, he could have done it a long time ago. He just has no desire to do that.
DarkRaiden;6294132 said:
Yeah, I still don't believe Shuma himself is more powerful than Galactus. Perhaps all of the Many Angled Ones together, are more powerful. Galactus himself is multiversal and the Galactus Engine you're referring to is an alternate Galactus from the Cancerverse iirc. The Many Angled Ones used Galactus and amplified his core or something turning it/him into a weapon.
The Lonious Monk;6295057 said:
agreed. If Galactus wanted to rule the universe and countless dimensions and multiverse, he'd have a pretty good shot of doing that, but that's not even on his radar. His role is to bring balance to the Universe. Folks shit bricks at the idea of Galactus coming around..Lately he's been used a jobber to put some new "threat" over, but he's still pretty much the man before you get into guys like Arishem, Eternity and LT. Most of the times we see Galactus he's not fully fed which also plays a role in his battles. The fight with Odin for instance..despite being hungry, Odin still really couldn't do shit to Galactus. He got his headbutt off and then went into the Odinsleep..Galactus got up and continued his mission, not even worried about Odin.
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I am just going to be real...there you're hard pressed to keep Galactus of your top 10 powers in Marvel...and its debatable top 5. Shuma is a beast but he isn't that level. What we have to consider is that Shuma is a guy used to show a guy like Strange's power set. Even if he has a massive showing in that book...he isn't the guy they call on the show how resilient all superheroes are. They call Galactus for that. Sure maybe there are guys more powerful. But in Infinitt Gauntlet, the premiere weapon in Marvel possibly he was the most vocal. Its just different.
Anyways Trigon is a demon he needs dominion over as much shit as possible to exist. But Odin didn't struggle with Thanos and I am certain trigonometry would beat Seid but he would surely struggle. I know its bad logic. But Trigon isn't as intimidating as Odin...
Anyways Trigon is a demon he needs dominion over as much shit as possible to exist. But Odin didn't struggle with Thanos and I am certain trigonometry would beat Seid but he would surely struggle. I know its bad logic. But Trigon isn't as intimidating as Odin...
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lol Trigon struggling with Darkseid. Nah. Trigon's presence beat the JLA, who beat Darkseid comfortably. Trigon's too powerful, he's universal in scale. Galactus is barely galaxy+ level. Ultimate Nullifier is cool and all, but it's not really Galactus's power as if he had such power....he'd never go hungry again. But he does. If he had such power, Tenebrous and Aegis or w/e wouldn't lay the smack down on him.
Plus if we talking shitting bricks, Strange handled Galactus with ease and was scared to death to fight Shuma possessing the Ancient One. When Shuma was absorbed, his presence was destroying Galaxies while Galactus has to try to destroy star systems. But enough about Shuma.
Trigon's just.....well he was essentially unbeatable in all ways. He loses on plot/his daughter and that alone. He's an all out multiversal threat type nigga. And btw Galactus would get smacked down if he tried to take over Earth nonetheless a universe. Stop playing. He still can't beat Franklin Richards, Scarlet Witch, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion, Dr. Doom, this nigga Gaalactus ain't doing shit. Not to mention Death, Eternity, Protege (if he's still around), all above him by far. Hell he stalemated 1 Vishanti. All 3 couldn't beat Shuma.
Plus if we talking shitting bricks, Strange handled Galactus with ease and was scared to death to fight Shuma possessing the Ancient One. When Shuma was absorbed, his presence was destroying Galaxies while Galactus has to try to destroy star systems. But enough about Shuma.
Trigon's just.....well he was essentially unbeatable in all ways. He loses on plot/his daughter and that alone. He's an all out multiversal threat type nigga. And btw Galactus would get smacked down if he tried to take over Earth nonetheless a universe. Stop playing. He still can't beat Franklin Richards, Scarlet Witch, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion, Dr. Doom, this nigga Gaalactus ain't doing shit. Not to mention Death, Eternity, Protege (if he's still around), all above him by far. Hell he stalemated 1 Vishanti. All 3 couldn't beat Shuma.
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DarkRaiden;6298696 said:
The Ultimate Nullifier is Galactus' power. That's why he was able to summon it to himself when he was resurrected even though Abraxus had it at the time. And how is Galactus barely galaxy+ level when he and Tyrant destroyed multiple galaxies as collateral damage of their fight.
You don't seem to know what you're talking about. Galactus is constantly hungry because that's his purpose. It has no bearing on his power at all. Tenebrous and Aegis were primordial gods. They are only slightly lower than a reasonably fed Galactus and it took both of them to beat Galactus. I'm not sure where you get that Galactus has to "try" to destroy a star system when as recently as Annihilation he destroyed multiple star systems simply by letting out a temper tantrum.
And it's laughable that you throw up the plot card in defense of Trigon, but mention Strange beating Galactus despite the fact that he only did it because a) the Galactus is hungry and weakened plot device was in effect, and b) Strange game up with a DEM spell that made Galactus feel the pain of all his victims. Lastly, you completely abandoned your logic by saying Trigon > Galactus because Trigon took over DC Earth but Galactus can't take over Marvel Earth. Or that Trigon > Galactus because there are stronger Cosmics than Galactus in Marvel. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make anymore.
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@darkraiden Family...you hate Galactus. He is the Ultimate Nullifier like fam The Lonious Monk said...you literally seem like you don't read comics. Like not saying you don't but it seems like you do. Its cool to acknowledge big appearances, but smaller appearances also count. Guys like Shuma, Cyttorak, Jim Jaspers, Franklin, Legion, they don't show up a ton and when they do its to give them exposure and build their case to see if their worthy of continuing or worthy or showing up in more popular books, so yes they get big showings, and there is all sorts of hyperbole thrown around. But they don't have powers comparable to Galactus, Eternity, Oblivion, and LT. Trigon is not going to beat Odin he has too many low showings.
Dr Doom nigga? Legion? Scarlet Witch? Jim Jaspers? Death is not bout it enough. Protege is not there. Galactus wasn't even really studying the Vishanti...Agamotto was doing nothing to Galactus lol...Vishanti does have a chance though thats a valid argument i would say. Franklin has a chance too...you just have to stop the bashing Galan
Dr Doom nigga? Legion? Scarlet Witch? Jim Jaspers? Death is not bout it enough. Protege is not there. Galactus wasn't even really studying the Vishanti...Agamotto was doing nothing to Galactus lol...Vishanti does have a chance though thats a valid argument i would say. Franklin has a chance too...you just have to stop the bashing Galan
Raven didn't beat Trigon. In his first appearance in The New Teen Titans 1980 series the Titans trapped him in another dimension. When he came back in the New Teen Titans vol 2 1984. The souls of the dead people of Azarath and Arella used Raven's body as a conduit to defeat Trigon.
According to the plot point this was the people of Azarath reason for existing-to one day kill Trigon.
According to the plot point this was the people of Azarath reason for existing-to one day kill Trigon.
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The teen titans couldn't come up with anything to beat Odin...I don't a fuck if they had 29 years prep.
evoljeanyes;6300847 said:
Before all Gods are born on Earth they write what their life will be like before they are born. So the only thing the Teen Titans would have to do is to find and go to that place where all of the Gods write out what their life will be like and steal Odin's pen and paper. It's so simple.
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Wait are you joking? If so, Odin wasn't born on Earth!
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