Batman vs. Captain America

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Alkinduz;6952897 said:
Prep Time is only part of the discussion if we are talking multiple fights, best outta 5...Bruce adapts, like Gns said, DC gave him a cheatcode lol.

And Cap will adapt in kind. When it comes to fighting ability, they are on a near equal level. If everything else besides stamina are taken to be nearly equal too, the stamina advantage will almost always lead to a win for Cap. It doesn't really matter what Batman packs in his belt. Given the kinda threats Cap has faced in the past, there is nothing Batman can come with that will take Cap out of his game completely.

Batman but could win some encounters, but Cap is taking the majority without question.

 
The Lonious Monk;6952995 said:
Alkinduz;6952897 said:
Prep Time is only part of the discussion if we are talking multiple fights, best outta 5...Bruce adapts, like Gns said, DC gave him a cheatcode lol.

And Cap will adapt in kind. When it comes to fighting ability, they are on a near equal level. If everything else besides stamina are taken to be nearly equal too, the stamina advantage will almost always lead to a win for Cap. It doesn't really matter what Batman packs in his belt. Given the kinda threats Cap has faced in the past, there is nothing Batman can come with that will take Cap out of his game completely.

Batman but could win some encounters, but Cap is taking the majority without question.

I dont see Cap beating Batman with prep time at all, Bats will have the answer to the serum, making Cap vulnirable or some other weakness exploiting method. Probably has a "anti cap" suit set up or some type of gadget/mindfuck nobody saw coming.

guess we have to agree to disagree bro, based on anime/comics, shit looks like a story with no end........or a batman prep Time cheat lol.
 
Alkinduz;6953086 said:
The Lonious Monk;6952995 said:
Alkinduz;6952897 said:
Prep Time is only part of the discussion if we are talking multiple fights, best outta 5...Bruce adapts, like Gns said, DC gave him a cheatcode lol.

And Cap will adapt in kind. When it comes to fighting ability, they are on a near equal level. If everything else besides stamina are taken to be nearly equal too, the stamina advantage will almost always lead to a win for Cap. It doesn't really matter what Batman packs in his belt. Given the kinda threats Cap has faced in the past, there is nothing Batman can come with that will take Cap out of his game completely.

Batman but could win some encounters, but Cap is taking the majority without question.

I dont see Cap beating Batman with prep time at all, Bats will have the answer to the serum, making Cap vulnirable or some other weakness exploiting method. Probably has a "anti cap" suit set up or some type of gadget/mindfuck nobody saw coming.

guess we have to agree to disagree bro, based on anime/comics, shit looks like a story with no end........or a batman prep Time cheat lol.


You're reaching now, Bro...LOL

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DarkRaiden;6947123 said:
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The Lonious Monk;6919012 said:
DarkRaiden;6918450 said:
Except they do. Cap has done nothing to exceed Batman's "punching through bazooka proof glass" or "kicking a guy through a missile proof door" thing. Cap has never shown to be faster than Batman in any way either. Batman and Cap have similar stats when you look at what they've done, not the flawed way you look at them and their "character concepts". Batman is very superhuman, just like Cap.

Deathstroke hitting Flash, dodging Starfire's blasts, easily beating people who are physically superior to him and giving it to high tiers has A LOT to do with how he'll handle Cap. It shows how fast he is, how good he is at what he does, the arsenal he has at his disposal. Also you're forgetting that his healing factor and durability are leagues above Caps.

Deathstroke has 5-10 ton feats, Cap stays closer to 2 like Batman does.

So, my way of looking at things which is basically to take what is stated about and established for the character is "flawed," but you're way of basing everything on a couple high level feats is right? Ok, I don't know how long you've been reading comics, but I'm sure you know that feats go up and down like roller coasters. In one comic a character can be chucking cars like ninja stars, and in another comic that same character can be struggling to lift an enemy that barely ways a ton. That's how it goes. Unless you've got Batman performing some feats and have proof that Cap couldn't do the same easier, you're not definitively proving anything.

Just look at Batman's rogue gallery. Hardly any of them have super powers. Hell, Bane is probably one of his strongest enemies. He's just a roided up human and he damn near killed Batman. Pretty much everyone Cap fights, is superhuman.

As for Deathstroke, everything you're saying in favor of him can be said for Cap. Cap has school pretty much all the Avengers at some point or the other. So again, your example of how well he does against JL members is meaningless. Hell, forget the Avengers. Cap has gone into the Cosmic arena and been revered for his prowess. When you have the respect of members of alien races that were space faring while humans were still trying to figure out fire, you're doing something right.

Cap has schooled Thor? I mean I've seen him beat Hulk (complete PIS), Iron Man was also PIS, and Spidey didn't fight back, never seen him even take Luke Cage, and he's worse than Wolverine and they've made that prety clear. Difference is Deathstroke stomps most street levels period. And his JL/Teen Titan feats are consistent and happen nearly every time.

As for Bats, punching bazooka proof doors and missile proof doors are mid-high level at best. his real high levels are PIS and don't make sense. Bane is strong AND a great fighter which is why he's a good villain. Same reason Cap has problems with Red Skull and other street levelers.

But mainly, Bats has 1 ton+ strength feats (that Cap can match, but doesn't tend to exceed) and they both have similar speed feats. They're nearly identical.


What street level characters does Cap have problems with
? Red Skull is also superhuman. Batman doesn't have any feats that suggest he can lift 1 ton nor has he shown anything to suggest he's on par with Cap physically.

Red Skull (street level is street level), Wolverine, Black Panther, Deadpool, Hawkeye. That's who I got right now. Probably more.

Just admit you have no idea what you're talking about. You're not really telling me everyone in the street level category are the same are you? Red Skull, Wolverine, BP and Deadpool are all superhuman characters and are all >>>> Batman physically. Hawkeye has never in his history given Cap problems. This is just a flat out lie. Cap trained Hawkeye to become the leader and fighter that he is today.

Bruh, you literally said "what street level characters does Cap have problems with" and I named them. Hawkeye has flat out beaten Cap before. Yeah Cap trained him, but Hawkeye still won that one fight. If Cap can lose to Hawkeye, he can lose to Batman. And he has.

You named people who Cap has fought, not folks who give them problems..and besides, these same street level folks would beat the dog piss out of Batman..You're using enhanced individuals as your evidence. Batman isn't enhanced. Hawkeye beat Cap one time in over 50 years of comics and that's the evidence you're using? Have you read or seen any other appearances of the two? I'm asking because there's this thing in comics called high end showings..you should pay attention to them more.

Cap has lost to everyone I named. You acted like Cap was above street level, but street levels have beaten him before. That was the point of that list.

I've never said Cap was above street level. You listed street level guys who are ENHANCED like Cap and who would beat the brakes off Batman as well.

Hawkeye beat Cap and that's a pretty recent showing after all of his training (read: actually having hand to hand skills).

did you even read that Hawkeye fight? Cap wasn't taking it seriously.

Batman is basically enhanced since he's doing superhuman stuff like punching missile proof material and cracking it. Hawkeye's never done half the stuff Batman's done physically. He's far worse due to feats pretty much. And Batman's utility belt has far more useful gadgets on it than Hawkeye's quiver.

Batman is not enhanced. Regardless of how many times you say it or hope him to be. He is not an enhanced character. You obviously have no idea about Hawkeye as well, but carry on.

And I know about high end feats, if I was using them, Bats has dodged Superman's Lightspeed heat vision and has taken hits from Darkseid. But those are silly and I don't use them because of that.

apparently you don't since that's what your argument is based on if you think Batman is on par with Cap physically.
 
Alkinduz;6952113 said:
DrMindbender122;6952100 said:
Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

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Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

why dont you post the dc vs marvel comic where cap loses to the bat and admits he came up short?

the other homie already posted the comic where both of them niggaz are equal from the justice league avengers comic in the beginning of the thread..

niggaz hyped from the winter souljah flick they forget dc and marvel actually had them fighting eachother in the comics.

you mean the fan voted fight that he won? The same fight were Batman HID in the shadows the entire fight? The same fight in which a punch from Steve sent Batman flying, while a punch from Batman just turned Steve's head? you mean that fight?
 
did yall see how fast that nigga Cap was running around the washington monument? that nigga Bruce could barely crawl out of a cave in that movie and lets not mention a regular (unvenomed) Bane broke his back in the movie and yall think he can go toe to toe with a super soldier? yea right
 
Seriously, did they use some kinda camera trick or something because it really looked like that dude was moving fast as hell. Especially on the early seen on the ship when he was taking people out. I mean it didn't look like special effects kinda fast, but dude did look like he was moving unnaturally fast in that scene.
 
Lol Iko Uwais did more damage then both Cap n Batman in the Raid 2..

goat fighting/action movie, you guys gotta check that out, makes the action from the winter soldier seem Lame(and I rate the winter soldier).
 
Anyway, comparing Cap n Bat from the latest movies makes no sense....especially Bane....venomed up Bane from the comics has more brute strenght then cap america(nigga has superhuman strenght)....and he is a master in martial arts and what not....if Bruce can fight the likes of superhuman Bane, he should also be able to fight with Cap..

according to comic logic, batman has fought with supes and other more powerful brawlers then himself.

lol. Thats the beauty of this discussion, its all based on the DC comics and anime(James tucker mofos!) and Marvel...

yeah ofcourse, in jeans and tshirts Cap would win....but if Bruce wears a certain suit(dark knight returns cough) and/or has the gadgets....he would beat Cap.

Cap is Fast, but not that Fast...knives,explosions,bullets etc hit, he dies. In fact didnt he die cause he was in Crossbones scope?

you should ask yourself this: can Iron man beat Cap? Yes? Well then Batman can do the Same.
 
*puts the cape on One more time lol

If the Bat can put One of those sticky mines on Darkseid, what makes you believe he cant put it on Cap?

darkseid walks away upon explosion, Cap loses his head or arm.

*hangs up the cape.
 
Alkinduz;6961207 said:
Anyway, comparing Cap n Bat from the latest movies makes no sense....especially Bane....venomed up Bane from the comics has more brute strenght then cap america(nigga has superhuman strenght)....and he is a master in martial arts and what not....if Bruce can fight the likes of superhuman Bane, he should also be able to fight with Cap..

according to comic logic, batman has fought with supes and other more powerful brawlers then himself.

lol. Thats the beauty of this discussion, its all based on the DC comics and anime(James tucker mofos!) and Marvel...

yeah ofcourse, in jeans and tshirts Cap would win....but if Bruce wears a certain suit(dark knight returns cough) and/or has the gadgets....he would beat Cap.

Cap is Fast, but not that Fast...knives,explosions,bullets etc hit, he dies. In fact didnt he die cause he was in Crossbones scope?

you should ask yourself this: can Iron man beat Cap? Yes? Well then Batman can do the Same.

so you think Batman is Ironman level?
 
Alkinduz;6961286 said:
*puts the cape on One more time lol

If the Bat can put One of those sticky mines on Darkseid, what makes you believe he cant put it on Cap?

darkseid walks away upon explosion, Cap loses his head or arm.

*hangs up the cape.

Mosquitos bite people all the time. Those same mosquitos couldn't bite a wasp as easily.
 
Alkinduz;6961286 said:
*puts the cape on One more time lol

If the Bat can put One of those sticky mines on Darkseid, what makes you believe he cant put it on Cap?

darkseid walks away upon explosion, Cap loses his head or arm.

*hangs up the cape.

ah, man!

lol

you know anytime Bat engages Darkseid

PIS (plot induced stupidity) usually follows...........
 

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