Batman vs. Captain America

[DrMindbender122]

Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

 

[Alkinduz]

Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

why dont you post the dc vs marvel comic where cap loses to the bat and admits he came up short?

the other homie already posted the comic where both of them niggaz are equal from the justice league avengers comic in the beginning of the thread..

niggaz hyped from the winter souljah flick they forget dc and marvel actually had them fighting eachother in the comics.

 

[gns]

Didn't take winter soldier for me to figure that cap would beat his ass. Shit it's crazy I'm arguing for cap when I don't own a single cap book but got dark night returns in the stash right now, among others.

The only book mentioned I'll acknowledge was jla/avengers(I own that too). The rest of those depends on the writer, the popularity of the character or PIS.

Batman cannot fuck with cap hand to hand!

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

why dont you post the dc vs marvel comic where cap loses to the bat and admits he came up short?

the other homie already posted the comic where both of them niggaz are equal from the justice league avengers comic in the beginning of the thread..

niggaz hyped from the winter souljah flick they forget dc and marvel actually had them fighting eachother in the comics.

lol You know a dude is desperate when he pretty much admits that the result of a comic event are bullshit, but still keeps trying to throw that up as proof of something.

DC vs Marvel was essentially a character popularity contest. We get it, Batman is more popular than Captain America. What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand?

 

[Alkinduz]

@gns, fam, if you acknowledge the book where both niggaz were equal, why claim bat ain't fucking with cap? And isnt the Whole JL Avenger comic full of PIS lmao. Come on son

the DC and Marvel universes can only exist with those PIS lol.

none of them really makes sense like that.

 

[Alkinduz]

Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

why dont you post the dc vs marvel comic where cap loses to the bat and admits he came up short?

the other homie already posted the comic where both of them niggaz are equal from the justice league avengers comic in the beginning of the thread..

niggaz hyped from the winter souljah flick they forget dc and marvel actually had them fighting eachother in the comics.

lol You know a dude is desperate when he pretty much admits that the result of a comic event are bullshit, but still keeps trying to throw that up as proof of something.

DC vs Marvel was essentially a character popularity contest. We get it, Batman is more popular than Captain America. What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand?

Man, u Batman fans are buggin' all the way out

I mean, wtf is Bats gonna do while getting his ass kicked by Cap?

"Hold up, Bruh. I gotta run home real quick and do some homework & figure out how to beat u. I'll be right back." ?

Uh huh. Right after Bats gets Cap's shield thrown upside his head, he'll get the exact same treatment that the last "Bat" Cap fought got, like so:

Off with that nigga's head.

Cap will literally kill that dude.

why dont you post the dc vs marvel comic where cap loses to the bat and admits he came up short?

the other homie already posted the comic where both of them niggaz are equal from the justice league avengers comic in the beginning of the thread..

niggaz hyped from the winter souljah flick they forget dc and marvel actually had them fighting eachother in the comics.

lol You know a dude is desperate when he pretty much admits that the result of a comic event are bullshit, but still keeps trying to throw that up as proof of something.

DC vs Marvel was essentially a character popularity contest. We get it, Batman is more popular than Captain America. What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand?

you were talking about "comic book realism" lol. But you ignore that point, just like the rest of that post...you know the other comic book where they both were equal and all that.

that doesnt have to do anything with the topic at hand?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Of course I ignored the point, because you're basing your whole argument on two faulty sources. The DC vs Marvel comic should NEVER be brought up in these kinds of discussions period. The writers didn't consider the capabilities of both sides and write a battle based on who they felt would really win. They were given the winner based on fan votes and then forced to come up with a battle that led to that result. Again, that's not comic book realism, that's fan service and has no place in this topic at all.

As for the JL/Avengers crossover, that's not quite as bad, but it's still not canon. And I fail to see how that favors Batman when by your own interpretation of the fight, Batman admits he'd lose if they fight went on due to Cap's superior stamina, you know, one of his superhuman characteristics that people keep talking about in here when they say Batman would lose.

 

[Alkinduz]

Exactly my point, Cap would win via stamina, not overpower him or via hand to hand, but simply cause of endurance...

so like I posted previously, Cap would win the first fight, if there however would be a second and third fight, chances are Bat would win considering he knows what he is up against now and prep time and all that.

and JLa comic not being cannon? So what? Exactly like this topic lol.

 

[MARIO_DRO]

... THE THING IS...

YALL WILL COME ON HERE AND DEBATE THAT BATMAN CAN BEAT SUPERMAN.. BUT CAPS WILL KILL BATMAN?!?!

WHERES THE LOGIC?

CAPS IS SUPER HUMAN, BUT HE AINT LIKE SUPERMAN SUPER HUMAN, HE CAN BE BEAT EASIER THAN YOU THINK

 

[gns]

@gns, fam, if you acknowledge the book where both niggaz were equal, why claim bat ain't fucking with cap? And isnt the Whole JL Avenger comic full of PIS lmao. Come on son

the DC and Marvel universes can only exist with those PIS lol.

none of them really makes sense like that.

Brah....they weren't. I acknowledge the book because it was the latest incarnation of a crossover and there was so much build up, it wasn't the greatest but the authors at least attempted to get shit right.....even so I don't agree with a couple fights and their results.

Most notably supes vs thor. That was bullshit.

Back to cap vs bats.

When they had that face off it was purely based off skill. Bruce made a feint, by the speed and counter feint cap reacted bruce surmised he'd lose...ok cool beans, none of that accounted for caps strength.

Bruce is an olympic athlete level cat, he CANNOT take Steve's punches to the face and keep going, he can't match Steve in speed either. Peak human vs super soldier not gonna end well for the human.

If y'all wanna factor in gadgets and planning that's 1 thing but hand to hand? Foh.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'll backpedal a little. Let's say the crossover is right. Technically, the SSS just made so that Cap is the absolute peak of human capability. He's not superhuman, but he's maxed out in every stat as far as what a human can do. Batman, through training and conditioning is very close to that. So the crossover, pretty much had it right, that they could fight and it would be even, but since Cap can keep up his peak performance much longer than Bat man, Bats would eventually lose.

If you believe that, then the discussion is over. Cap would win.

 

[Alkinduz]

@gns, I can dig it but at the sametime Bats has been taking hits from Supes and other dudes more powerful then Cap....shit, bro got clapped by Darkseid but still kept it movin...in Most JL animes Bat is always taking a beating lol. But ok, PiS and all that.

how bout Bane though? If he can fight the likes of Bane then surely he can take on Cap.

gadget wise, you neva know what bats got, that ultrasound shit he uses to escape and got everyone in agony, technically he could use that all damn day, vs joker for example.. but then you would have some boring azz stories.

*shrugs.

 

[Alkinduz]

@monk, yeah, if its just one fight, cap got it(unless certain gadgets are involved). If its best outta 3 or 5, Bats got it due to the ridiculous/legendary prep Time Batman nowadays got.

 

[gns]

Lol yo that prep shit is a muhfucka. DC basically gave him a contra cheat code and it is sorta bs 2 but oh well.

Bane and killer croc both stronger than bats and he whoops em, cool. They're also dumb asa bunch of rocks. Bane caught bruce on a bad day and he'd be a punching bag to cap.

And igaf what a writer writes, sometimes u gotta judge for yourself. In what fucking reality can Batman or any human take a Superman or darkseid punch? Those writers b fucking tripping.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I still don't see how prep time plays into this. He's had time to prep for Deathstroke and still gets his ass whooped. Sure, I guess if he had prep time he could set up the environment or his equipment just so he could beat Cap. That's possible, but that's getting away from the point of the topic. The topic is solely about who would win in a straight up 1on1. Saying Batman could win if he was given time to stack the deck in his favor is going outside of the scope of the discussion.

 

[Alkinduz]

Lmao @gns yeah them writers be high as fuck. Agree with everything you said, except Bane being dumb, bro is a genius and criminal mastermind, one of the few things Nolan had right in the movie(except for him being a puppet and simp in the end lol)...master of martial arts and dude is a superhuman when venomed up.

batman imo is one of the coolest but at the sametime one of the most hilariously contradictional characters out.

I grew up with the animated series...he was just posted up, chilling in Gotham. Nowadays hes having meetings in Space and pimpslapping aliens, analyzing and decoding computers on Darkseids homeplanet and shit.

I remember Cap from his oldskool cartoon, Wolverine was always calling him a douche basically and that grey haired chick Spiderman was banging was a more advanced ss then him. That spiderman secret wars was the shit.

compared to all the other Gz out there Cap seemed Lame, kinda like cyclops lol

 

[Alkinduz]

I still don't see how prep time plays into this. He's had time to prep for Deathstroke and still gets his ass whooped. Sure, I guess if he had prep time he could set up the environment or his equipment just so he could beat Cap. That's possible, but that's getting away from the point of the topic. The topic is solely about who would win in a straight up 1on1. Saying Batman could win if he was given time to stack the deck in his favor is going outside of the scope of the discussion.

Deathstroke is an OG. His Whole game is prep time lol.

Cap is not as complex of a character as Slade is...plus if Bat can take out the JL with prep time it is safe to assume he could take out Cap.

one fight, cap got it, unless batman starts using them ultra gadgets like the soundwave/noise that puts people in agony...but he only uses during moments the writers dont know how else the nigga can escape(thus a deus ex machina). Either the story is flawed or he is holding back.

I mean if he uses that every encounter could go like this:

Joker: Well well well, I was expecting(*bat presses noisewave button on his sleeves)....aaaaaaaaah *agony, down and out.

lol

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You don't have to be complex to win a fist fight. This is not a discussion about whether or not Batman could stop Captain America from enacting some complex scheme. It's about who would win in a fight, and Batman being a master planner doesn't amount to a whole lot here. That's sort of like me bringing up that Cap is a master tactician and second to none when it comes to deploying a group of heroes and using them to their optimum proficiency. That may be true, but it has no bearing on this discussion.

 

[Alkinduz]

Prep Time is only part of the discussion if we are talking multiple fights, best outta 5...Bruce adapts, like Gns said, DC gave him a cheatcode lol.

 

[Alkinduz]

And its mos def up for debate if Cap will win if there would be only one fight....we dont know what gadgets n equipment the batsuit has.