As women get older they begin to see the value in the nice guy?

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dusouljah;1751779 said:
nice guy=/= pushover...

but yall don't hear me though

Nah I hear you loud and clear. Just because I treat you right don't mean I'm a sucka. I remember a chick tried to explain to me why she don't mess with nice guys by saying that they're boring. Yea, not treating you like a whore is soooooooooo boring right? smmfh @ these young hoes
 
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kai_valya;1751702 said:
i think the problems with nice guys is that they aren't really all that nice. they are wimps and doormats. and no woman wants a man she can run. i want a good, principled, strong, upstanding man. a "nice" guy tho? what does that even mean? when i hear that phrase instantly what comes to mind is a guy that lets chicks walk all over him. women for the most part want the alpha-male and the nice guy usually doesn't fit that profile

You selling nice guys short kai. They are not all Michael Cera types, who are (as a gif helpfully pointed out) socially awkward). There are plenty of gorillas such as myself who are nice but are just on the outskirts you know?

no woman wants a man she can run

Really? I'm pretty sure that there are many women out there who are control freaks that want to control everything about a man (i.e. Jackie Burkhart w/ Kelso, Hyde)

There are many nice guys out there that have principles, and who are also strong and upstanding.
 
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thehonorable;1751712 said:
Im a nice guy. women love me.

Oh...but I don't take no shit either. And I was known to throw a nigga threw a wall back in college.

Damn, threw a dude on a wall? Beast shit right there
 
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nice guy=/= boring either...

ppl equate the wrong characteristics with a nice guy....

all a nice guy is, is someone who is courteous and treats women with respect...

that doesn't mean he's a pushover, a pussy, socially awkward, broke, ugly, fat, nerdy, boring or anything else that falls into that category...

and dudes that fall into that category need to stop blaming their failure with women on being a nice guy....it's not because you're nice... it's because of some of those reasons i listed....

you'll never be able to help urself until u properly diagnose your problem to begin with..
 
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dj expanium;1751737 said:
The term "nigga" is now dead and lost it's meaning!!!!

Any man can be nice at any given time, if even you don't know who they are. Men and women need to value having relationships with more respectable mates than anything else instead of just wasting time with useless ones in general.

True any man can be nice at a given time, but the fake nice guys will eventually show their true colors. The assholes that only want to bed a woman will perhaps act nicer than your genuine nice guy, but as I just said, their true colors show up eventually.

Men and women need to value having relationships with more respectable mates than anything else instead of just wasting time with useless ones in general

Exactly. The thing is though, college-aged men and women aren't looking for anything serious because, well, its college. Sure there are a few who are in a relationship or who are married, but the majority of people that age are just looking for whatevers, quickies et al. You'll seldom find men and women in early adulthood that want to settle for a relationship.
 
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dusouljah;1751812 said:
nice guy=/= boring either...

ppl equate the wrong characteristics with a nice guy....

all a nice guy is, is someone who is courteous and treats women with respect...

that doesn't mean he's a pushover, a pussy, socially awkward, broke, ugly, fat, nerdy, boring or anything else that falls into that category...

and dudes that fall into that category need to stop blaming their failure with women on being a nice guy....it's not because you're nice... it's because of some of those reasons i listed....

you'll never be able to help urself until u properly diagnose your problem to begin with..

I believe the appropriate reply for this is /thread

seriously though du, you hit the nail on the head because nice guys fall into the categories you described.
 
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First off the genuine nice guy does exist

Most of these men come from two parent homes and have idealized the way relationships work. Their values are based on the nuclear model sans traditionally adopted gender roles. Their mothers set a bar that the crack babies of the sexual revolution fail miserably in achieving, hence their dissolution in trying to find a suitable partner at the age when skeezers know their youth and vigor are a major asset.

Two:

Nice guys aint stupid. They are waking the f!ck up
 
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kai_valya;1751702 said:
i think the problems with nice guys is that they aren't really all that nice. they are wimps and doormats. and no woman wants a man she can run. i want a good, principled, strong, upstanding man. a "nice" guy tho? what does that even mean? when i hear that phrase instantly what comes to mind is a guy that lets chicks walk all over him. women for the most part want the alpha-male and the nice guy usually doesn't fit that profile

^^^^^^THIS is just an overused excuse to keep gettin' fucked by the thugs and left to raise babies on your own. This is the weakest reasoning behind putting yourself in that situation. Plus, it's not true.
 
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Let me add some heat from the GOAT just to reiterate the threadstarters point. 1 in 4 part series

[video=youtube;3nMHgGJ8b6A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nMHgGJ8b6A[/video]
 
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TazManianRebel;1751081 said:
Translation:

As we get older, fat, and out of shape, and stuck with a bunch of out of wedlock bastard kids that nobody wants we'll reinvent ourselves as born again christian women and "settle" for a nice guy who will pay all the bills.

^^^^^^^^^^^^=CHUUURCH!!! Women will never settle for the nice guy, they only get tired of being treated like shit, so they will let the guy who treats her like a queen and pay for shit be the guy she'll let hit on a regular basis. But the second a woman start feeling herself or has some type of transformation making herself look younger and as hot as she did during her best years. Please believe the nigga with a big dick and street cred will be back in he one bedroom smacking the shit out of her in front of her kids.
 
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kai_valya;1752160 said:
i'm not in that situation at all, and i'd like to know what i wrote that was false. the phrase is nice guys finish last for a reason. i'm married to the same guy i met at 18 and don't have any kids. but i'm not checking for a "nice" guy. i need a man with a backbone. my hubby is kind to me, but he's not a "nice guy" in the sense that i can run or take advantage of him.

and kevmic, from your post i gather that nice guys can't have big dicks or street cred huh?

No not that at all. It's what you said, you're not checking for nice guys remember, so how would you or any other woman not checking for them possibly know??
 
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kai_valya;1752192 said:
i'm going by what a "nice guy" really means, almost always, it's a euphemism for doormat. i'm not checking for a weak man sorry. am i supposed to have sympathy for a dumb chick that keeps lettin herself get played cuz she listens to men's lies, no, so why would i feel sorry for a man who's too weak to stand up for himself and not get taken advantage of. who's fault is it really?

But thats the point, you women placed this stigma on what a nice guy is. A nice guy is a guy who is nice to you period. He's not a doormat, or a wimp, or a weak man. Why does a man who display any form of chilvary have to be weak all of a sudden?? So because of that a woman who actually encounters a man who is nice and kind to her, will automatically associate him with being weak without even knowing the guy. So I would have to say you ladies ace yourself out of a lot of good relationship. Because at the end of the day, that nice guy will eventually end up with a woman who realizes she isn't getting any younger and the supply of good men isn't getting any larger. So she will settle for the nice guy and will actually be happy with her decision. It's messed up how society is setup, but a man will always have the ability to choose who he wants to be witheven as he becomes older, as long as he focus on taking care of himself and handle his business as a man. While a woman is only left to settle as she gets older, because her beauty is the only thing that kept her in the dating game to begin with. A man can care less if a woman has all the creditials women look for in us. Especially if she doesn't turn that man on, at that point only thing left for her is your definition of the "nice" guy.
 
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kai_valya;1752262 said:
i would only date/interact with someone who was nice to me. and i think you are misunderstanding me. i love chivalry and acts of kindness, i think that's part of being a decent human being. my husband has always been nice to me and treated me with respect. what i'm talking about is the other side of what is referred to as a "nice-guy". guys that will let hoes cheat on them, tricking off unnecessarily, let her talk to him any which way, disrespect him and he still puts up with it. there are women that are that way as well, just doormats. being a doormat doesn't make you a nice person, it makes you weak.

No I don't misunderstand you. It's how women lump nice guy with being weak that I don't understand?? You just described your husband as what I would call a nice guy, yet to a woman the idea of a nice guy is to be weak. That's the part I will never understand about women, especially when they say that tired excuse, he was cool and everything he was just to nice. As if a woman wants a man to be mean to her from time to time to prove he isn't a doormat. I actually knew of this chick my boy dated who would get excited whenever he would get mad and flash on her. He was a quiet dude by nature, but he wasn't a punk, and he was nothing but nice to her. The sad part was that like most women, she wasn't use to be treated that way, and would always say things to him to make it seem like he was a punk...just sad but girls are like that all the time.
 
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i dont get this part though

women will dedicate all of her time with a man who doesnt do right by her

he constantly cheats and beats her ,but she's faithful to this nigga hoping someday he will change for the better

women will overlook and mistreat a man who does right by her

i feel some women arent use to anybody doing good by her so she punishes the good man for what tyrone has done to her throughout the relationship
 
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TazManianRebel;1752398 said:
i dont get this part though

women will dedicate all of her time with a man who doesnt do right by her

he constantly cheats and beats her ,but she's faithful to this nigga hoping someday he will change for the better

women will overlook and mistreat a man who does right by her

i feel some women arent use to anybody doing good by her so she punishes the good man for what tyrone has done to her throughout the relationship

cuz some ppl are just sick like that...

there are plenty of women who are not like that... and if you haven't met one yet.. then maybe YOU are OVERLOOKING THEM....
 
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TazManianRebel;1752398 said:
i dont get this part though

women will dedicate all of her time with a man who doesnt do right by her

Some men will dedicate their lives to finding women for easy prey, knowing that they have no intentions for pursuing a long-term relationship but will get out whatever they desire from them. It goes both ways.
 
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Time out! At what point did being a "nice guy" mean being a doormat? I thought it always meant just treating your lady right, not being a yes man or no ish like that. Kai you on that bs right now with that one
 
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shenco;1752486 said:
Time out! At what point did being a "nice guy" mean being a doormat? I thought it always meant just treating your lady right, not being a yes man or no ish like that. Kai you on that bs right now with that one

that's the whole thing.. there's a lotta misconceptions with being a nice guy...
 
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