As black America, we must do whatever we can to get Herman Cain elected.

[young_reezy]

Muthafuck Dre, Muthafuck Snoop, Muthafuck Death-Row!!!

 

[PPLSIntiative]

So will we still need an apology when white America crumbles? Will we still be suffering? Or will someone else swoop in and save us because they care oh so much about our oppression?

Fuck an apologies. We need to be looking for opportunities because we are far behind to compete Globally.

Blacks were suffering way before the recession hit. Black families were getting houses foreclosed on left and right. Cities were redlining and gentrifying, pushing Blacks out into the boondocks. Blacks were already suffering from high unemployment, unaffordable education, and poor resources. post 2008 housing crisis and job market are nothing but chickens coming home to roost. The economic woes America go through always hit Black first and hardest. We are an expendable resource anytime the shit hits the fan.

So yes an apology is long overdue. I don't expect it, because America takes Blacks for granted, and we are wholly unappreciated and downtrodden. T be used for entertainment and free labor still. Cannon fodder in illegal wars, and the scape goat for the moral ills that afflict the populace.

 

[PPLSIntiative]

^^^^^^So we have an advantage then right?

No. No we don't

I thought you were intelligently debating a point, but you are wholly ignorant of the brutal infrastructure of american politics and the ramifications on the Black community. Continue your exile.

 

[im_lux]

No matter who is President you gone hate him after a year or two in office anyway so I don't see the point in arguing about who will be a better President because honestly as far as most of you people are concerned it's never the guy that's IN office it's always the one that "could" or "could've been" or "should" be in office. It's never the guy that "is" in office of course until he's a "Former President" for a number of years.

 

[CPTJamesT.Lurk]

I didn't read all the posts here but I will say this. I find it interesting that people still believe that some individual will save the day if and when they are elected. It will not, no matter who is president our interests and the interests of people like us will not be protected, in fact they will not even be considered. The 2 party system we have been given is set up to keep the balance of power from ever becoming even. this subject can drag on forever the bottom line is things will not change for the better.

 

[kingblaze84]

Cain and Obama can both kiss my ass. SMH at Obama cracking down on medical marijuana shops in California tonight

 

[kingblaze84]

Not a Cain supporter but Barry O is just as much of a coon ass sell out as Cain.

Oh I forgot, Barry is a Democrat so he is all good.

So true, Obama has sold us out to Wall Street a long time ago. Still waiting for my bailout. My tax money went to the banks and meanwhile, I gotta pay higher fees to Bank of America. The system is fucked and Obama is part of the problem.

 

[kingblaze84]

These statements are nonsensical. Take for example the Enron situation that occurred years ago. The people involved got rich by purposefully plunging California into an energy crisis. It's not an ether because it is untrue. The people protesting a mostly composed of a generation of people disaffected and disillusioned by the american dream. These are college kids or graduates who did all the right things only to find out that MNC's Ceo, and politicians bartered away the financial security of Americans.

You can certainly blame the rich when a student goes 10k-20k in debt to get an education only to find the job market offers jobs that are only worth half as much. You can blame MNC's and politicians who agreed to export American jobs but cash in on capital gains therefore exporting the jobs that sustain the middle class.

Politicians are at fault when they cater to the needs of the lobbyists and corporations instead of seeing to the needs of constituents which they are constitutionally obligated to do.

Politicians are at fault for treating education like a commodity instead of a universal right within a so called first world country.

People are at fault for not waking up sooner and calling these elected officials to the carpet. For falling in love with rhetoric instead of action.

People are at fault for upholding their end of the rule by consent:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. - Declaration of Independence

Great post, Herman Cain showed his complete ignorance of the economy with that stupid statement he made. It's another reason he is being clowned heavily in the media these days.

 

[kingblaze84]

So will we still need an apology when white America crumbles? Will we still be suffering? Or will someone else swoop in and save us because they care oh so much about our oppression?

Fuck an apologies. We need to be looking for opportunities because we are far behind to compete Globally.

An apology wouldn't HURT though, would it?

 

[janklow]

Why do you think American gvt has not so much as even offered an apology for the horrific crime of chattel slavery?

would it qualify if, say, the House or the Senate voted on a formal apology for slavery?

 

[PPLSIntiative]

if we are already the have nots and we are use to surviving with less then we have an advantage over those who are just now lossing. We have NOTHING to lose. We are mentally pre-prepared.

The key word is survival. There are areas so impoverished the people hang on by a thread and don't even know it. Survival isn't even the word. Survival is what african slaves were doing just to make it day to day. Survival in a mentality where involved parties banded together for better or worse. Presently, there are too many members in the Black community that are disjointed, unorganized, and self seeking. That isn't survival that's self destruction.

@janklow: no it wouldn't count if the congress only put it to a vote. An apology needs to be given by the leader of this country, not a senator, representative, judge, or office clerk. Like I said I'd never expect one least of all hold my breath, but it doesn't change the fact that America needs to ask forgiveness for these atrocious crimes. However in order for America to do that they'd have to admit that the impact is far reaching and that the government still does the same stuff today. The government still enslaves black people this very day, legally in the prison system. the 13th amendment:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Ask yourself this, when you look at the prison system what people make up a disproportionate percentage of inmates? When you look at the prison industrial complex with the knowledge that American corporations can legally force prisoners to make goods for free under coercion and threat of punishment, what is the difference between an inmate and a 19th century slave who works under threat of violence or separation?

 

[PPLSIntiative]

jus a brief summary of some truth if u want more knowledge then read the Bible.

Deuteronomy 32:21

They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Genesis 15:13

And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict (oppress) them four hundred years;

Deuteronomy 28:49

The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young:

Deuteronomy 28:68

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Deuteronomy 4:27 (White Jesus)

And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.

And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

Deuteronomy 28:37

And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.

Deuteronomy 28:45

Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

Yea already know about this....

 

[Esiam]

[video=youtube;WFY2kJ96jNY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY[/video]

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[Esiam]

Why do black people claim they aren't or can't be racist? This little kid is being taught to hate white people (especially them white men)....do you know what would happen if this scenario were reversed....the shit would hit the fan....DON'T TELL me that most black people don't live by another set of rules aka the double standard.

[video=youtube;3vrWjzz4hsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vrWjzz4hsE[/video]

That's on some KKK-shit right there, or maybe Hitler-jugend would be a better comparison...

When I was younger I was more like it's more alright for black people to be racist, but now that I'm grown up, I'm detested equally by racism from either colors to the other...

 

[PPLSIntiative]

Lol. I see you wanna those cats that think he has some knowledge so you can't tell him shit.

Ok. To survive means to live. Period! You cannot not survive and live. With every circumstance and situation that has been thrown not only at Blacks in America but blacks worldwide our people have survived and multiplied. Here in America you don't see Black People walking around with bloated bellies of starvation. No. You see we have an obesity problem. You my not get exactly what you want for dinner every night but people are eating and alot or eating on money provided to them by the government from tax payers and with all other programs being cut this has yet to be touched (yet).

What is poverty? Lack of money? What is money? How is money accumulated? Go to any hood, ghetto or what have you and tell me you don't see the money. Tell me you don't see the money one people's feet, driving by, on the backs and legs of folks, in the ears and mouths, around the necks, hanging on the walls in homes, in the hands etc etc.

Don't make the story all that sad cause it's not............ANYMORE (keyword).

As for the prison system, well that works in conjunction with Black Peoples mentality about going to prison. Niggas don't give a fuck nor fear prison. It's damn near like a rite of passage or like going to college. So if niggas ain't afraid to take penitentiary chances then the penitentiary don't mind locking them up. I don't get how People go so hard at the Criminal System for locking niggas up that are a threat to the Black Community but are soft on the Niggas that are actually physically and mentally fucking the community up. It's like "yeah he was Moving major weight in the hood buuuuuuut he don't deserve jail. They destroying our community".

You said self-destruction. How so when The Black Population has continued to rise? He have never been at the point of extinction no matter what this world has thrown at us!

So why the fuck are always playing the victim? We anticipate being the victim.

If this World falls it can only fall down to levels of where we have survived, lived and breed.

What we call poverty in America only means we lack luxuries. So called luxuries at that.

You are right. YOU cannot tell me anything. I've lived in Bankhead, Mechanicsville, and the Southside of Chicago, I've worked on the westside. There is plenty of money to be made in these areas, but Black people are not the ones making it. In all of these communities I have witnessed the economic exploitation of Black people. A communities's economy is driven by shopping in local stores buying local goods and in turn the owners of said stores reinvest in the community through hiring local workers and/or by living in the same area redistributing the dollars spent.

Secondly, a franchise can step in and hire many local workers which will then go and spend their money in other places.

This isn't what happens though. Most local stores whether your ABC wireless, gas stations or knockoff clothing stores are owned by arabs or koreans. 1) They usually hire from within their own family so there is a minimal chance of hiring local workers 2) They do not live in the area so the dollars spent are exracted from the community.

Speaking on the problem of obesity, that is due to a thriving economy in the hood, that is testimony to the fact of poor food quality. Poor quality food is sold at an arab owned food mart to Black people, and then there are so many cheaply provided fast food chains there alone. So let's see poor economy + cheap fast food + horrible diet. If you ever have visited a more affluent neighborhood you can take note the contrasts of the environments just by what is available. You may see a Wendy's or a Burger King, but you will also see Deli's that offer a balance, a choice. I know this because I've also been to BuckHead, Bronzeville, Hyde Park, Wicker Park, Lincoln Park; there is a contrast in available food services alone.

There is a small economy driven by entrepreneurs such as daycare, or apt owners. The most common legit job in the Black Community is working minimum wage at a fast food chain or a barbershop. Your other businesses, make money, but they aren't legit selling dope and prostitution, and even still Black people running that game only make a fraction a very small fraction of that pie. There's money in the hood, but it''s being made off Black people not by them.

Prison, is simply a building. There is so little difference because people in these hoods that you prop up like some shining city on a hill re just as much prison as anyplace else. Prison limits the movement of an inmate there lives are structured around being told when to eat, sleep, piss, shower, etc. In the hood its the same way, this is where you eat-sub standard food, this is where you sleep,piss- substandard housing, and Black people are taught this through sub standard education. In schools I've taught in, the classrooms were over crowded paint is cracking off the ceiling, radiator heaters are exposed.

On TV, where the real education begins, Black children are taught who they should be by wanna be gangsters and dope boys and real trashy housewives and bad bitches. All this is controlled by a white owned media (even BET) and they control the images that you see or don't see. Kids see Ricky Ross living his life and he aint talking about he got this through education, he got it through working hard, he talkin about the dope game. child early on knows they want success and the TV the music videos, the songs are giving them a blueprint for it in their eyes. They do this not knowing half these dudes are bullshitting and the other half lived some experiences that shouldn't be repeated. In any case these kids see the dope game as the only way to generate income, and now it puts them in direct confrontation with the law. Once you get exposed to that system its easier and easier to go back. There is no real consequence because in the hood you aren't losing anything. It's so common in the hoods I've lived in or worked in that people don't travel outside of it. It's scary. I know people who won't take the train two blocks from their house to the loop in chicago. I know people in atlanta who will travel but only to another hood. So yea the hood is like a prison because once your mind is caught up your body is soon to follow.

No you can't tell me a thing because I'm not on the outside looking in. Lived it. Witnessed it. Went to school and studied it. Education is not a luxury, decent food is not a luxury. Black people should want more, do want more than to be someone else's stepping stool. Unless you can bring something equivalent to my experience to the table, don't try to debate me on it because your arms are too short.

 

[playmaker88]

You are right. YOU cannot tell me anything. I've lived in Bankhead, Mechanicsville, and the Southside of Chicago, I've worked on the westside. There is plenty of money to be made in these areas, but Black people are not the ones making it. In all of these communities I have witnessed the economic exploitation of Black people. A communities's economy is driven by shopping in local stores buying local goods and in turn the owners of said stores reinvest in the community through hiring local workers and/or by living in the same area redistributing the dollars spent.

Secondly, a franchise can step in and hire many local workers which will then go and spend their money in other places.

This isn't what happens though. Most local stores whether your ABC wireless, gas stations or knockoff clothing stores are owned by arabs or koreans. 1) They usually hire from within their own family so there is a minimal chance of hiring local workers 2) They do not live in the area so the dollars spent are exracted from the community.

Speaking on the problem of obesity, that is due to a thriving economy in the hood, that is testimony to the fact of poor food quality. Poor quality food is sold at an arab owned food mart to Black people, and then there are so many cheaply provided fast food chains there alone. So let's see poor economy + cheap fast food + horrible diet. If you ever have visited a more affluent neighborhood you can take note the contrasts of the environments just by what is available. You may see a Wendy's or a Burger King, but you will also see Deli's that offer a balance, a choice. I know this because I've also been to BuckHead, Bronzeville, Hyde Park, Wicker Park, Lincoln Park; there is a contrast in available food services alone.

There is a small economy driven by entrepreneurs such as daycare, or apt owners. The most common legit job in the Black Community is working minimum wage at a fast food chain or a barbershop. Your other businesses, make money, but they aren't legit selling dope and prostitution, and even still Black people running that game only make a fraction a very small fraction of that pie. There's money in the hood, but it''s being made off Black people not by them.

Prison, is simply a building. There is so little difference because people in these hoods that you prop up like some shining city on a hill re just as much prison as anyplace else. Prison limits the movement of an inmate there lives are structured around being told when to eat, sleep, piss, shower, etc. In the hood its the same way, this is where you eat-sub standard food, this is where you sleep,piss- substandard housing, and Black people are taught this through sub standard education. In schools I've taught in, the classrooms were over crowded paint is cracking off the ceiling, radiator heaters are exposed.

On TV, where the real education begins, Black children are taught who they should be by wanna be gangsters and dope boys and real trashy housewives and bad bitches. All this is controlled by a white owned media (even BET) and they control the images that you see or don't see. Kids see Ricky Ross living his life and he aint talking about he got this through education, he got it through working hard, he talkin about the dope game. child early on knows they want success and the TV the music videos, the songs are giving them a blueprint for it in their eyes. They do this not knowing half these dudes are bullshitting and the other half lived some experiences that shouldn't be repeated. In any case these kids see the dope game as the only way to generate income, and now it puts them in direct confrontation with the law. Once you get exposed to that system its easier and easier to go back. There is no real consequence because in the hood you aren't losing anything. It's so common in the hoods I've lived in or worked in that people don't travel outside of it. It's scary. I know people who won't take the train two blocks from their house to the loop in chicago. I know people in atlanta who will travel but only to another hood. So yea the hood is like a prison because once your mind is caught up your body is soon to follow.

No you can't tell me a thing because I'm not on the outside looking in. Lived it. Witnessed it. Went to school and studied it. Education is not a luxury, decent food is not a luxury. Black people should want more, do want more than to be someone else's stepping stool. Unless you can bring something equivalent to my experience to the table, don't try to debate me on it because your arms are too short.

Get em.

waits..

 

[playmaker88]

classic fuckin heyslick since he cant rebut the shit in his own words he gets on his google... i atleast expected some unintelligible mumbo jumbo from you you didnt even do that excuse yourself from the room

 

[playmaker88]

C'mon man thats your rebuttal point out all the racism/obliviousness/denseness in any of the comments towards white people I'll wait.. stop talking around the point and respond you schizophrenic Dennys eating early bird special getting archie bunker chair sittin ass CRACKA ASS CRACKA

 

[playmaker88]

So you are in the head of black people now.. not only are the authority on all things blackness but you have the inner most thoughts of negros at your disposal.. Whos teaching hate.. im teaching responsibility,awareness, acceptance. and defiance.

 

[playmaker88]

Where the fuck has your senile ass ever hear me say exterminate white people.. I challenge you to find anything of that nature coming from me..

Dont avoid my fucking post you clown.. Find it.. find anything close to that.. you just make bullshit up.. Dont run find it and post it or anything even close to that.. You are full of shit..