Article Of Floyd Mayweather...wow @ this

[rakim ii]

Oh yeah, floyd record> Pac record....[/QUOTE]

You gotta be kidding right? The last 3 fighters Pac fought had to go to the hospital afterwards ( Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto). Mayweather is not putting in work like that

 

[rakim ii]

lmao! Floyd could've fought Margarito when he was hot, ducked. Could've made the fight happen with Mosley after he beat Margarito's ass, ducked. Called out Cotto back in 2003 when clearly Cotto was still a raw fighter and not ready. Mayweather was no where to be heard from after Cotto beat Zab and Mosley. These are facts and y'all can still defend and nutthug PBF all you want, but at the end of the day he's still a bitch made nigga

 

[perspective@100]

lmao! Floyd could've fought Margarito when he was hot, ducked. Could've made the fight happen with Mosley after he beat Margarito's ass, ducked. Called out Cotto back in 2003 when clearly Cotto was still a raw fighter and not ready. Mayweather was no where to be heard from after Cotto beat Zab and Mosley. These are facts and y'all can still defend and nutthug PBF all you want, but at the end of the day he's still a bitch made nigga

Its a no win for floyd because he is his own Boss. If he has a reason not to fight someone he ducking? Damn, all Bob Arum got to say is the other camp dont want to fight and yall accept it as truth? Money is Money Mayweather plain and simple. Shane mosley dont put up no numbers so No haps. Just cause Magarito got hot dont mean he worth fighting, dont do numbers and lost to paul williams and shane mosley now, so whats to prove in that fight. Called someone out but they not ready and then he supposed to wait for them to be ready? Floyd been ready since about 97 and he showed up every fight. Aint no body been doing that besides Joe Calzaghe. Give respect where respect is due. He'll be a bit*h, but one that never lost. One that do more numbers than all the other fighters PPV wise and personal finance. Smartest man in boxing hands down.

 

[themadlionsfan]

Its a no win for floyd because he is his own Boss. If he has a reason not to fight someone he ducking? Damn, all Bob Arum got to say is the other camp dont want to fight and yall accept it as truth? Money is Money Mayweather plain and simple. Shane mosley dont put up no numbers so No haps. Just cause Magarito got hot dont mean he worth fighting, dont do numbers and lost to paul williams and shane mosley now, so whats to prove in that fight. Called someone out but they not ready and then he supposed to wait for them to be ready? Floyd been ready since about 97 and he showed up every fight. Aint no body been doing that besides Joe Calzaghe. Give respect where respect is due. He'll be a bit*h, but one that never lost. One that do more numbers than all the other fighters PPV wise and personal finance. Smartest man in boxing hands down.

but corley, mitchel, baldimir, bruseles are worth fighting?....these b class fighters do numbers?.....the marquez fight was pushed back from october to september because it wasn't movin ppv.....and not to mention makin this guy move up to 135 to 147.....and now he is makin another small guy move up in weight in paulie malinaggi....and guy who at 135 couldn;t hurt a fly but now he is movin up to 147....how in the hell is he gonna hurt floyd?.....and you think that shit is gonna do numbers?.....that shit won't even reach 800,000 ppvs.....and I don't give a damn about the 0 on his record

RA The Rugged Man: "Floyd if you don't fight nobody, nobody is gone beat you. I can go out and fight 50 girls and be 50 and 0."

 

[dc's teflondon]

teddy atlas riding with floyd... he basically called pacman's camp out and mentioned some emails too

 

[lilman5454]

Dr. Don H. Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles-based non-profit Anti-Doping Research, Inc., said a 24-day cutoff for blood testing is not sufficient to prevent abuse. One of the concerns with such a long blood-testing cutoff prior to the date of competition would be the potential use of Erythropoietin, or EPO.

But Catlin said that wouldn’t be the only concern if there were a 24-day cutoff imposed.

“If you have a 24-day window that’s free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want and you’re not going to get caught, end of story,” Catlin said. “[Urine testing] does matter, yes, but they’re not going to catch everything by urine testing alone. What you would do is to take Mircera [a type of EPO], which is available and which is not easy to detect in urine and away you go. You need a blood test.”

Arum said he understands that commissions may request additional testing of Pacquiao in the future because of the controversy raised during talks for a Mayweather fight, but he said neither he nor Pacquiao would have an issue with it.

Arum said an athletic commission would treat the fighters properly. Pacquiao believes he’ll be weakened by giving blood too close to an event. And while there is no medical evidence to back his claim, it could harm him psychologically.
“It’s the commission and if you have confidence in the commission, you will agree to abide by whatever they request,” Arum said. “But you know they’ll take the phobia of the fighters, and so forth, into account whenever they order what tests they deem appropriate.”

read the rest http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_y...acfloydnegotiations010810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[lilman5454]

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who works with Mayweather, isn’t ready to give up. He’s worried Top Rank hasn’t told Pacquiao that the potential richest fight in boxing history could be saved if the Filipino star would agree to take a blood test for performance-enhancing drugs 14 days before the proposed March 13 bout - just 10 days later than Pacquiao already agreed.

“I am hopeful that this fight can still happen,” Schaefer told the AP. “No matter what, Floyd Mayweather will fight at the MGM Grand (in Las Vegas) on March 13. I hope the man across that ring will be Manny Pacquiao.”

Schaefer was angered when Arum came out of the camps’ mediation hearing Tuesday blaming Mayweather for the fight’s collapse, saying Mayweather wouldn’t agree to a final blood test 24 days before the bout. Schaefer claims Top Rank turned down a compromise of 14 days on New Year’s Eve, but he isn’t sure whether Pacquiao - who’s at home in the Philippines - was involved in that decision.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_y...F?slug=txpacquiaomayweather&prov=st&type=lgns

 

[socalirep]

Ethos then prove me wrong? Don't make JMM look like some random scrub whos not a household name. He was ranked #3 behind floyd and pac when he fought floyd. He had fight of the year and is just as big boxing name as Cotto if not bigger.

 

[perspective@100]

but corley, mitchel, baldimir, bruseles are worth fighting?....

I like your arguement but it has BIG holes. Floyd came out of one of his retirements to fight bruseles and he was supposedly rusty and people were questioning would his speed still be effective so in the public eye the fight was supposed to be closer than what it was, be we all know father time didn't get Floyd that night. Corley was a move up in weight. Then Mitchell was his first fight at welterweight and he was a former champion. Baldomir was WBA welterweight title holder at the time of their fight. If you dont see progression in legacy then your just blind my friend. This sport is a Business like any other. Get belts get money. Soon as he star worrying about what people outside the ring think thats when he gonna get his ass taxed.

Oh yeah to RAKIMII, magarito lost to that one cat too Daniel Santos, lol BUM! Everybody is D class when it come to mayweather no wonder he keep retiring... Yall just wont be satisfied until he take an L so yall can say he aint the best pound for pound ever. SMH...

 

[miami cane]

bullshit, Pac -Man is on something. PBF offered him a 14 day window and he turned it down.

 

[sTaY_TrUe]

bullshit, Pac -Man is on something. PBF offered him a 14 day window and he turned it down.

any man with common sense can see that, it really aint that hard to figure out. Floyd would beat him juiced or not

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Yeah, fanboy. A fan can like a person but still acknowledge their faults. A fanboy is going to take that person's side no matter what, like some of you are doing.

 

[ethos]

No one has ever said that Floyd isn't good. He is good, maybe even great. That doesn't mean he hasn't made bitch moves throughout his career. I mean prior to this, he gave all kinda dumb excuses for why he should have to fight Pac. First, it was a money issue. He thought that he should get much more than Pac because he was the bigger draw. Ok, I understand he wants his just due, but being stingy with the purse to the point of not having a fight at all, is a bitch move. Second, he didn't want to fight Pac because Pac was unworthy due to having losses. Now that shit really didn't make any sense. Last I checked, Floyd has never fought undefeated fighters exclusively. Face it, all Floyd does is run his mouth. I would say that he a great self salesman, but really, only the people already enamored by him fall for his crap. Most objective people think he's just a loudmouth. Like I said, dude is good, but the fact that he walks around claiming to be the best ever makes a mockery out of the sport. Because no great has ever behaved the way he does.

While maybe not on the same tone, ever heard of Muhammad Ali? He sure was a loudmouth and perceived as that during his fighting days..

 

[Piff]

But why the random drug testing? He agreed to take a drug test directly after the fight so if he was dirty then he forfeits the win. Why all of a sudden is pacman on roids? Because Mayweather Senior said something about his body? That's a stupid reason. Either way the fight is going to happen just boxing politics.

I hate answering a question with a question, but why not random drug testing? It's proven to be very sufficient in weaving out the cheaters in the Olympic games. If any fighter were to know the exact dates, that almost completely negates the purpose of blood testing. The whole purpose of the tests being randomized is making sure each fighter is on a level playing field and not taking anything that isn't within the guidelines. In addition, they would most likely be forced to take a urinalysis as well. As for agreeing to a test after a fight, what good would that be if Pac dismantled Mayweather in a bout (handing him his first L) and then he comes up dirty after the fact? People would still have that image in their head that he beat Mayweather, and I know Pac-man fans would come up with some type of conspiracy theory so they could legitimize the victory, even if it were to be completely erased; I'll pose this to you, what do you remember about the De La Hoya v.s Mosley? Do you remember Mosley completely dominating the fight late, or do you remember Mosley testifying in front of a grand jury saying that he used PEDS? And I hate to break this to you, but Mayweather sr. IS NOT the first person to openly state their opinion about Pac-man possibly being on something.

To all the people defending Floyd, please explain what this is about. He's never made these kinds of stipulations before. Him and his camp have put out allegations that Pac is juicing. Those allegations are based on absolutely nothing. Hell, they themselves have said that the only reason they say he is juicing his because he's been knocking people out in all these different weight classes. That's it. So we're going through all these changes because of his accusations that he has no real basis for making. On top of that, Pac's camp agreed to 30 days before the fight and right after the fight. So why is that not sufficient? That's already more stringent than boxing presently does, and Floyd has always been fine with boxing's standard rules before. All of a sudden, it is this big issue that he can't get past. It's BS. Floyd never wanted this fight. He ducked and dodged for as long as he could. Finally, he realized that he'd have to take it to save face. All of this is just his attempt to get out of it. Now I'm not saying Pac doesn't look like a bitch too. I don't see why he can't just agree to the extra testing if he's not juicing. However, I think Floyd is the bigger bitch here because he's always running his mouth about how great he is but he never uses his fists to prove it.

@ the text that I've bolded, you answered your question in the very next sentence. As for the rest of the post, the reason that it may still be problematic is 30 days is more than enough time to get whatever it is that you may be doing illegally, out of your system. By the time they've tested him, he could've already ripe the benefits of taking whatever it is he's taking (if were taking anything). I hate how people all of a sudden are villifying blood testing, as if these fighters safety isn't first. I'd be first to tell you that I don't give a fuck about this type of testing in a sports such as baseball, or any of the other sports with no contact or very little contact, but when it comes to a physical sport like boxing, and a illegal drug could possibly help another fighter inflict more damage on a opponent, I'm all for testing, especially with a fight of this magnitude, and with so much on the line. People call blood testing "unprecedented", well so was pretty much everything else, that have evolved these sports. A sport like boxing SHOULD have randomized blood testing, so I hope Floyd has set some sort of precedence in this regard. And again, if Floyd didn't want to Fight Pacquaio, why would he agree to the venue, purse size, glove size, time and date of the fight, and the weight that they'll fight at? It's just too funny how people in this thread can only lay accountability on one side, and not the other. LOL @ Floyd "being the bigger bitch." Anything to paint him as scared huh without acknowledging Pac-man and his faults during this entire ordeal.

lmao! Floyd could've fought Margarito when he was hot, ducked. Could've made the fight happen with Mosley after he beat Margarito's ass, ducked. Called out Cotto back in 2003 when clearly Cotto was still a raw fighter and not ready. Mayweather was no where to be heard from after Cotto beat Zab and Mosley. These are facts and y'all can still defend and nutthug PBF all you want, but at the end of the day he's still a bitch made nigga

Mayweather been putting up the most numbers in BOXING since he fought de la Hoya... Pac just got good status and now he the bigger fighter off one fight. Nope try again. I mean seriously, he couldnt even handle Marquez correctly. Pac vs.Cotto, by the way I hoped that fight would put up numbers Cotto had a hell of a following. Mayweather can do numbers with a nobody on the card. Damn, its about the money. No don King sh*t...

Oh yeah, floyd record> Pac record. Greater than Less than values are the best...

@ the two above posts, these are equally ridiculous to one another. SMH @ Floyd supposedly ducking Mr. "Plaster of Paris". Come on, if you're going to mention Floyd "ducking" anyone, at least mention Paul Williams (who everybody seems to duck), but Margarito? SMH. The second post, I don't where to start. Pac just got good status? Pac-man has always been renowned as an elite fighter. Did the wins over Cotto, De La Hoya, and Hatton help enforce how good he is? Most certainly, but you can't say that he's just got good status because that's a lie, and his opposition stacks up quite nicely vs Floyd's I might add.

 

[perspective@100]

IThe second post, I don't where to start. Pac just got good status? Pac-man has always been renowned as an elite fighter. Did the wins over Cotto, De La Hoya, and Hatton help enforce how good he is? Most certainly, but you can't say that he's just got good status because that's a lie, and his opposition stacks up quite nicely vs Floyd's I might add.

Not a lie my friend, Pac beat an old washed up DLH after floyd already tapped that azz. Pac Beat Ricky Hatton after floyd already tapped that azz. Pac could not handle Juan Manual Marquez and Floyd made him look like a child. Pac been beating relativley washed up champs like Antonio Barrera and Erik morrales. Honestly I just back floyd on here cuz people hating too much. I think Pac is an outstanding fighter, blazing speed, power, and STAMINA. We all saw that In the Cotto fight. That was his proving fight to me and the money behind it backs my observation.

I'll take this time out to cosign some fighters that need respect. PAUL WILLIAMS- another new cat on the come up ANDRE WARD... Paul is nice crazy stamina is overwhelming. This Andre Ward cat beat one other boxer I was looking at Mikkel Kessler who only had one previous loss to Joe Calzaghe. So check them out!

 

[themadlionsfan]

While maybe not on the same tone, ever heard of Muhammad Ali? He sure was a loudmouth and perceived as that during his fighting days..

he got away with it because he was willing to prove it....he fought everybody unlike Floyd...if you fight everybody and win you got the right to talk...but if you don't please stfu and keep it movin until you prove it

 

[Bcotton5]

bullshit, Pac -Man is on something. PBF offered him a 14 day window and he turned it down.

EXACTLY thank you

 

[c.b.b.]

I don't fault Floyd for requesting more advanced testing.

Pac's move up in weight and unusual trend of gaining spped and power for a fighter over 30 is definitely suspicious.

Manny is 32 years old and usually fighters that are that far into their career aren't able to jump weight classes in that short period of time and increase speed + power

I think people need to question why Pac needs such a large time window and has the nerve to want to know which day each test is going to be taken

I criticized Floyd for fighting Baldomir instead of Margarito and not fighting any top Welters since his move to 147, but this one is on Pac IMO.

I think people need to stop being so naive and really question how Pac is able to achieve such physical results. I hear he comes to training camp late, parties a lot, and dude doesn't appear to be a gym rat like Bernard Hopkins. How in the world is he able to have KO power + increased speed after the age of 30 and move from 130 to 147 in 1 1/2 years?

 

[computers putin']

as a man without any vested intrest in either fighter, it would seem that common sense say the man without anything to hide would take the tests. to say that floyd somehow knew pacman would turn down random testing( and be so adamantly against it) and in turn use it as an alibi to get out of the fight, well it just seem like an incredible reach logically speaking....

oh and blood testing would be pretty worthless if its not random. im not an expert in PED's, but i think anyone with a basic understanding knows these drugs can be cycled out pretty easily

 

[txboi_09]

I hope one of these dumb muthafuckers loses their next fight. Manny needs to go ahead and just take the dam blood tests, also Mayweather has been known to use Xylocaine that shit is banned in most states except Nevada. Now I dont see how that's fair I understand that he's had hand issues in the past put supposedly that shit numbs your hands, now Im no expert but if your hands are numb Im sure you can throw harder giving him an advantage. Both fighters are pussies and they just messed it up for all the boxing fans out there. Im pretty much done with the whole Pacman vs. Mayweather bullshit.