well i'm black and they wont. and why isn't Rock black music since black people created it. Black people created most of the genres in american popular music. Rock,Jazz,Blues,R&B,Hip-Hop they only thing the did not create is country but a nigga probably created that too, the white man just stole the idea from him. But the thing is black people don't own it , white people own it .
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georgia boi
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RED Hood;1720305 said:
It's partially our fault though. What happens is the same thing that happens with the fashions and trends we set: once outsiders start doing it, we abandon it. We abandoned Rock and look at Black artists that do Rock music as corny the same way we look at a Black dude rocking Fubu or the same way we stop using certain slang b/c white people start using it.
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Fashion?
White people been wearing Gucci, Ralph Lauren, True Religion etc way before black people or any Rappers did those are high end luxery brands rich white people been wearing since they existed it was a case of the hood following whites as far as real designer clothing is concerned
Even Levis which isnt a luxery brand was embraced by whites way before anyone else
Sure some whites wore Rocawear and that but that was the hardcore Rap fans more blacks now follow white trends in fashion then whites following black fashion like Sean John
White people been wearing Gucci, Ralph Lauren, True Religion etc way before black people or any Rappers did those are high end luxery brands rich white people been wearing since they existed it was a case of the hood following whites as far as real designer clothing is concerned
Even Levis which isnt a luxery brand was embraced by whites way before anyone else
Sure some whites wore Rocawear and that but that was the hardcore Rap fans more blacks now follow white trends in fashion then whites following black fashion like Sean John
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I think alot of these mainstream rappers know which side their bread is buttered. To us fans this is just entertainment but to these rappers it's their livelyhood so it's only logical they don't wanna offend these white folks. You see what happened to Griff when he spoke his mind two decades ago.
I think these rappers are more scared of Jews than Europeans though. You'll never catch a rapper talking about the Middle East conflict while back in the day nuff rappers spoke on Apartheid. What's the difference between the white regime in South Africa back in the day and Israel now? Rappers can't even reference Jews while they can fill albums downing black females and killing 'n*ggas'. In "All about the Benjamins" Jada had a line "stack chips like Hebrews". That sh*t got censored. Even black popstars can't reference them. Michael Jackson had a line about Jews (he said "screw me, Jew me" or something like that) and they made him apologise if memory serves me right...
One thing that's funny to me though is that even back in the day the main people supporting acts like PE and Paris were infact white folks. I remember going to a PE show almost 18 years ago I was one of the few blacks in there. The same thing occurred when I was at a Dead Prez show.
I think these rappers are more scared of Jews than Europeans though. You'll never catch a rapper talking about the Middle East conflict while back in the day nuff rappers spoke on Apartheid. What's the difference between the white regime in South Africa back in the day and Israel now? Rappers can't even reference Jews while they can fill albums downing black females and killing 'n*ggas'. In "All about the Benjamins" Jada had a line "stack chips like Hebrews". That sh*t got censored. Even black popstars can't reference them. Michael Jackson had a line about Jews (he said "screw me, Jew me" or something like that) and they made him apologise if memory serves me right...
One thing that's funny to me though is that even back in the day the main people supporting acts like PE and Paris were infact white folks. I remember going to a PE show almost 18 years ago I was one of the few blacks in there. The same thing occurred when I was at a Dead Prez show.
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georgia boi
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ShadyTeam;1720612 said:
That wasn't my point. I'm talking about clothing lines like FUBU, Karl Kani, Phat Farm. Clothing lines that were owned by Blacks and were abandoned by us once white people started rocking it.
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StillDreaming;1719328 said:
Take the above pic for example. Taylor Swift can take a pic with a fan wearing a Nazi symbol on his shirt and not worry about any real backlash from it. I want rappers to be the same way. Take back ownership of this genre of music called hip-hop. So what if white ppl get offended, this music was never intended for them to begin with.
Where you got that pic from? I'm not really up on Taylor Swift but I'm kinda surpised though since there was never any backlash that I could remember. Is she racist?
If a black artist would've done something similar his or her career would be in great danger to say the least.
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georgia boi;1720700 said:
I see your point but brothers stopped messing with those brands you mentioned cuz the quality of the clothes was inferior and the items were/ are tacky and overpriced. That goes for most 'black owned' brands. Only exception is Sean John...
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georgia boi;1720700 said:
But come on Fubu, Karl Kani, Phat Farm etc in the long run were always gonna be percieved as corny regardless who wore them not saying they are cos i seen nice stuff from those brands but lets be honest Sean John was the only brand that was gonna have serious legitime credibility cos Puffy took away any corny elements it was for blacks at first but Sean John crossed over and today is still going strong
And lets be real these white kids not all but most who were Fubu were trying to be assholes on purpuse almost trying to mock by wearing it not so much actually rocking the brand but how they rocked it the over sized baggy jeans and all that you think these whites kids genuinley believed they would attract females with that clothing? they to me seemed to be doing it in a spoof way kind of mocking people
But we need to break these barriers in general like a black kid who has love for Skateboard should feel comfortable in it just like a white kid from the hood who does Rap should feel comfortable
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aswadh;1720706 said:
Its a recent pic that she took with a fan. Where she was exactly I don't know. I wont call her racist because I dont know her or follow her music, but its pretty safe to say that this will not affect her record sales.
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StillDreaming;1720758 said:
Neither do I but that pic right there raises alot of questions though...
On another note I wanna ask you how you feel about what I said in my first post? These rappers/ black entertainers are more scared of Jews than Europeans. Every once in a while you'll see a rapper say something about white folks or even make a song about 'em. Cube made songs back in the day, Soulja Slim did it in '01 and even Plies did it a few years back and last year. You'l never hear a rapper talk about a Jew or even reference them and if they do that sh*t get censored with the quickness. Why is that?
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georgia boi
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aswadh;1720718 said:
I've seen people say they stopped rocking it simply b/c white people started rocking it. The same way people stop using certain slang b/c white people start using it and the same way we abandoned Rock which was my initial point.
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aswadh;1720797 said:
Quite honestly a lot of black ppl like myself don't seperate whites into categories like that. Regardless of how ignorant it may sound, to me a Jew is a white person
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Young-Ice;1720830 said:
Eh she's a White woman in America, she can get away with anything. I guess she got the Neo-Nazi demographic on lock.
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True statement. It's the complete opposite these days.georgia boi;1719208[B said:
This is a false statement.
Commercial/Mainstream Rap has always been tailored for the masses, constantly changed and motivated for the money. Hip Hop is always for the people by giving a message and spreading awareness in the minority communities. You can see why the major labels are only interested in acts that will give them great revenue....they are only concerned about quantity of money over the integrity/quality of music. Hip-Hop is still alive in the underground/independent scene, but Commercial rap is a feeding frenzy!!!!RED Hood;1719815 said:
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StillDreaming;1718995 said:
shit these koward blk industry rapperz is willin 2 let a white racist b da highest sellin artist n hiphop 2 keep they white fanbase smh da shit is fuuukin PATHETIC...cuz we all know damn well if it was a blk artist doin white musik like country or sum shit & they got xposed as a racist them white folkz is gonna act like itz WW3 & raise all HELL they aint gonna keep they mouf closed like these foolish blk rapperz smh..
dj expanium;1719007 said:
im 2 da point fuuk a apology letter fem already did that along wit make up a LIE about a blk gf ill neva trust shit comin outta that redneckz mouf feminemz best bet is just 2 leave hiphop alone cuz he has raped it enuff & we(blkz) want our shit back fukk sum elvis shit happenin wit hiphop/blk musik!
nujerz84;1722766 said:
they buyin feminemz shit...
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RED Hood;1720018 said:
How would Krackers eat off rap if Black people didnt make it..is that what you asked me??
How do you know what Black people barely buy?? Do you have studies and statistics??
Neo-Soul is sellin quite well without you white people.
GTFOH with your grafted, calcified peckerwood logic, nobody mentioned Egypt, I guess a white man like you has never heard of Nubia which is what I was referring to.
If your ancesters came from the Caucusus mountain caves you are more than likey a carcass-asian and wouldnt have enough knowledge to tell me shit about who came before Columbus, or Kemet. So this convo aint got shit to do with you.
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StillDreaming;1720952 said:
That's not true. The Dixie Chicks (a group whose demographic is primarily white) faced a lot of backlash for saying that they were ashamed of President Bush. The satement doesn't look like it holds a lot of weight, but such words are damaging when said in another country that has tight relations with the U.S. According to this article, they were banned from radio and received death threats for that statment http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1196419,00.html. If anything, it shows no matter what color someone is, some aspects of the music industry will not support it if it could potentially cause them to lose money or support.
I would like to hear Taylor's explanation for the picture with dude in the red swatztika. Even though that symbol is also used in relation to a Chinese religious organization for charity, that dude's comments on his myspace page suggests that he's a racist.
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