Are Rappers today afraid to Piss off the White Man?

[RED Hood]

Commercial Hip Hop is for the paying fan. The hip hop culture itself is for anybody willing to embrace it . Hip hop wouldn't have survived this long if just black people were interested in it.

 

[Hatter]

Commercial Hip Hop is for the paying fan. The hip hop culture itself is for anybody willing to embrace it . Hip hop wouldn't have survived this long if just black people were interested in it.

Realest statement in this thread!!

 

[ShadyTeam]

Having money and education doesnt make you any less black or down...you watch too much tv lol

Never said it did i'm not talking about being down or cool whatever ever that is suppose to mean

I'm simply stating Hip Hop is a culture based on an inviduals social enviroment, class and economic status not their colour but where they come from and their financial status

There is no such thing as acting black or acting white people act how they do based on how they grew up, where they grew up and their struggles

In a nut shell i'm stating the obvious that Hip Hop is working class Music/culture

 

[StillDreaming]

Do you feel feel Hip Hop is for middle & upper class blacks who are from affluent Suburbs and have prestigious careers? the privildged blacks who live in wealthy homes

Do you feel Hip Hop is not for poor blue collar working class whites, latinos, asians, arabs who are from poor inner city neighbourhoods & housing projects/trailors/section 8 housing living on minimum wage/welfare but live in predominantly black populated poor cities?

I believe the SOUL of hip-hop belongs to black people. This doesn't mean other races can't enjoy the music it just means that they cannot claim it as their own. Go to Sohh or thisis50 and tell me these white boys don't think they own this culture and its music. White boys calling ppl fake and arguing about street cred like these rappers are Pokemon cards or something. The rap game will catch on eventually to what's going on in these internet forums but I'm steady peeping it everyday. Just enjoy the music and stop trying to include urself in its history.

 

[H-Rap 180]

Commercial Hip Hop is for the paying fan. The hip hop culture itself is for anybody willing to embrace it . Hip hop wouldn't have survived this long if just black people were interested in it.

Thats a lie and a foolish assumption.

Its arrogant to assume a culture rooted in Afrikan rhythms and Griot rhymes would fall into obscurity based on outsiders embracing it or not.

From the pyramids to the projects weather if was heiroglyphs or grafitti we have always found a way to express ourselves with art and symbols.

Its a grandiose idea to believe that B-Boys and B-girls still wouldnt be dancing considering how dance is historically a part of our culture.

If your Death-metal and Goth culture has survived without Black culture than HipHop can surely survive without white culture.

 

[NonCreativeNickname]

hip hop wouldn't have survived this long if just black people were interested in it.

false.........

 

[StillDreaming]

Commercial Hip Hop is for the paying fan. The hip hop culture itself is for anybody willing to embrace it . Hip hop wouldn't have survived this long if just black people were interested in it.

Like I said before no one is trying to exclude whites from hip-hop, I just want rappers to take back the culture and stop worrying about whether white ppl will buy their album or not. Smh at white ppl determing what's hot in hip-hop. Stay in Y'all lane and stop trying to act like hip-hop ain't black music. Y'all can buy it all you want but stop trying to act like Pac made Dear Mama for ur listening pleasure. This is black music.

 

[1of1]

I believe the SOUL of hip-hop belongs to black people. This doesn't mean other races can't enjoy the music it just means that they cannot claim it as their own. Go to Sohh or thisis50 and tell me these white boys don't think they own this culture and its music. White boys calling ppl fake and arguing about street cred like these rappers are Pokemon cards or something. The rap game will catch on eventually to what's going on in these internet forums but I'm steady peeping it everyday. Just enjoy the music and stop trying to include urself in its history.

Wow!! Great comparison. *Props*

I always found it to be wild that you have IC guys who put the picture of the rapper in the AVI and type as if they're the rapper. And they maintain the fake persona forever.

 

[Meet The Sniper]

If the white people are the ones buying the albums and writing the checks id wanna avoid pissing them off too but if im trying to make money off of hiphop but if im trying to get a message accross, fuck em.

Make money on the single.... save the message for the album/mixtape.... It's the typical formula.

 

[1of1]

Like I said before no one is trying to exclude whites from hip-hop, I just want rappers to take back the culture and stop worrying about whether white ppl will buy their album or not. Smh at white ppl determing what's hot in hip-hop. Stay in Y'all lane and stop trying to act like hip-hop ain't black music. Y'all can buy it all you want but stop trying to act like Pac made Dear Mama for ur listening pleasure. This is black music.

I feel you and agree wholeheartedly. But capitalism has enveloped the thought process of many popular rappers (and people in general) when it comes to decision making...and they'll be the first to tell you that's the case.

 

[ShadyTeam]

Like I said before no one is trying to exclude whites from hip-hop, I just want rappers to take back the culture and stop worrying about whether white ppl will buy their album or not. Smh at white ppl determing what's hot in hip-hop. Stay in Y'all lane and stop trying to act like hip-hop ain't black music. Y'all can buy it all you want but stop trying to act like Pac made Dear Mama for ur listening pleasure. This is black music.

Why is Dear Mama such a succesfull Song that will be remembered forever probably 2pac's best Song cos it's a Song anyone can relate to regardless of their etnicity, religion or even class it's just a univesal message about troubled times with your mother but loving her still cos all she done for you

So of course people gonna take plessure listening to a Song that is really good

Now what Album or Single or Video is hot in Hip Hop is based on opinion thats life everyone has an opinion

No one can deny Hip Hop is black Music but it is for others to enjoy and relate to that grew up in poverty and grew up in the hood whatever colour they are

Of course blacks can enjoy Classical Music or Techno or Country so whites and others will enjoy Hip Hip

 

[goldenja]

Wow!! Great comparison. *Props*

I always found it to be wild that you have IC guys who put the picture of the rapper in the AVI and type as if they're the rapper. And they maintain the fake persona forever.

right lol... thats why im not afraid to put me on my avi, wit my high ass lol

 

[NonCreativeNickname]

damn, the ether is flowing in this thread.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Nope, none of them. Can you name names of some rappers you think are afraid to piss off the white man?

Plies- "I don't wear skinny jeans like the white boys"

Gucci Mane- "White-boy wasted"

Kanye- "In this white man world, we the one's chosen"

Lil Wayne- he says cracka/cracker a lot, he shout-outs to Obama a whole lot

Jeezy- "My President is Black"

JayZ- "My President is Black"

Nas- "He's my nigga, wigga, cracka friend" (speaking about Eminem)

Rick Ross

Lupe

Ghostface

Mos Def

etc.

 

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[RED Hood]

Thats a lie and a foolish assumption.

Its arrogant to assume a culture rooted in Afrikan rhythms and Griot rhymes would fall into obscurity based on outsiders embracing it or not.

From the pyramids to the projects weather if was heiroglyphs or grafitti we have always found a way to express ourselves with art and symbols.

Its a grandiose idea to believe that B-Boys and B-girls still wouldnt be dancing considering how dance is historically a part of our culture.

If your Death-metal and Goth culture has survived without Black culture than HipHop can surely survive without white culture.

How would niggas eat off rap if its just black people buying they shit . Rap wouldn't be international like it is now . you wouldn't have millionaire moguls and all if that shit if it would have stayed in the south bronx .

Death metal and Goth have people to financially support it . They stay with people at their shows buying merchandise , cds, and all that shit. Black folk barely buy cds from their favorite artists. and GTFOH with that Egyptian shit . If your ancestor came over during the slave trade there more than likely from west africa and Egypt is north so them and their accomplishments don't have shit to do with you .

 

[ShadyTeam]

SMH at H Rap not knowing most grafiti Artists are white

SMH at H Rap not knowing pyramids are in Egypt and most black Americans do not descend from Egypt

SMH at H Rap's fave white Rapper Paul Wall being born & raised in the Suburbs and a white middle class Suburb

SMH at H Rap thinking William Shakespeare was black

SMH at H Rap thinking Rick Ross has Soul

 

[RED Hood]

How is it black music . When black people don't have no control of it. Rock and Roll was at one point black. So was jazz. Now look at them. The Truth hurts. and the reason so many artist won't buck the system is because they have no integrity or they not slick business wise to do it . Thats why Ice Cube is my favorite artist he says what the fuck he wants , releases his music independently , and he is still dope.

 

[StillDreaming]

I feel you and agree wholeheartedly. But capitalism has enveloped the thought process of many popular rappers (and people in general) when it comes to decision making...and they'll be the first to tell you that's the case.

That's true but the money is drying up for the most part. Yea you can make a single that tops the billboards but unless ur Em that wont mean shit in relation to ur overall record sales(2010 Nelly comes to mind). I guess I just wish the commercialism of hip-hop would take a backseat to creativity. This same old thought process of making a hit single that connects with the white audience before you get a release date needs to go. And ppl wonder why albums coming out today lack some of the creativity from the past. Nobody is making anything new, they're just pandering to the white audience for record sales.

 

[StillDreaming]

How is it black music . When black people don't have no control of it. Rock and Roll was at one point black. So was jazz. Now look at them. The Truth hurts. and the reason so many artist won't buck the system is because they have no integrity or they not slick business wise to do it . Thats why Ice Cube is my favorite artist he says what the fuck he wants , releases his music independently , and he is still dope.

Its BLACK music because WE created it. The TRUTH which you speak of isn't anything new to black ppl because we know whites are cultural thieves to begin with. I'm just a concerned member of the black community speaking up on what I see going on.