Anybody still into conspiracy theories?

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@MallyG it's crazy my brother. There are so many sick people in the world. When you mess with the occult those videos are a glimpse of what happens on a ritualistic scale. Something more sinister is coming though and these folks have no clue. It's tragic, but they will get what they want. And when these spirit beings are revealed they will wish to die, but won't be able. Yes, they will seek death but death will flee from them. Amen.

See Revelation 9

Amen

I don't do the occult thing but what's so bad about it? It's just another way of being spiritual. And why should anyone take the book of Revelation seriously, it's just a weird, likely drug induced dream.

1. The occult is witchcraft. Amen.

2. The book of Revelation is about to be fulfilled in it's entirety very shortly. Watch therefore and be ready for Yeshua is coming back and BOY is He angry!

Amen.

What makes you think the book of Revelation is going to be fulfilled soon? Please. And how do you know Jesus is angry, what's he going to do when he comes back? I don't think Jesus is going to do anything anytime soon, only after 2,000 plus years he's suddenly gonna do something? Give me a break. Jesus doesn't seem to be the active type.

1. Because Israel is the time piece of God.

2. He is angry because He is coming back to put down all His enemies as the lion of the tribe of Judah.

3. He will tread the winepress of the wrath of Almighty God and He will stain His garments in the blood of all those who oppose Him. Amen.

4. "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." Hosea 6:2

5. If you are watching and praying you will know the time and season of His return. Hallelujah! But if not, He will come upon you as a thief in the night and you'll be found naked in His sight. Woe unto your soul if that is you on that day. Amen.

Israel is the time piece of god? So the Bible god is basically co-signing the stealing of land and mistreatment of millions of people, but okay whatever. And sorry man but I don't see any evidence the Bible god is able to destroy its enemies, most of the world isn't Christian. Even most Christians don't take their own religion seriously, America supports gay marriage in its laws now, and America is a mostly Christian nation. So is the Bible god going to destroy America? Norway and Sweden have mostly agnostic or atheistic populations, and yet those nations seem to be doing just fine.

You're just assuming Jesus is going to destroy his enemies, but I don't see Jesus saving Christians in the Middle East. I didn't see Jesus save his chosen people during the Holocaust. You make Jesus appear more powerful then he really is.

1. Yes, Israel is the time-piece of God.

2. If you had the spirit of God you would know this. But since you don't, the things of God are foolishness to you. Amen.

3. Yes, Jesus Christ said that just as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days that He comes again. Only 8 souls were saved from the global flood. A world that was filled with billions of people and only 8 souls were saved. Yes, just like it was back then (godless) so shall it be in these days!

4. But there is a remnant that will be spared. Hallelujah!

5. Therefore repent and believe the gospel! It may be that the LORD will be gracious unto you in the day of His fierce anger.

Amen.

Jesus didn't back up Nat Turner's rebellion, why is that? If Jesus is such a righteous man of anger as you say, then why didn't Jesus himself back up Nat Turner's rebellion? Truth is, if Jesus wasn't angry at Christian slaves being brutalized for hundreds of years, I doubt he is angry about what's going on now. And even if Jesus is angry, so what, he shows no history of real action anyway. You admit Jesus didn't do shit during the Holocaust, and did nothing to help poor African slaves on cold slave ships. The Bible god is a pretty weak being at this point, no action, all talk, totally full of shit.

The LORD calls for a WOE upon people like you:



"Woe to those who drag iniquity with the cords of falsehood, And sin as if with cart ropes; 19Who say, "Let Him make speed, let Him hasten His work, that we may see it; And let the purpose of the Holy One of Israel draw near And come to pass, that we may know it!" Isaiah 5:18-19

Yes, Woe to you who long for the day of the LORD! Why do you long for the day of the LORD? That day will be darkness, not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

bro i'm not going to disturb you in your faith but believing in jesus is not actually believing in jesus because he did not write a SINGLE WORD in the bible....thats like me and my friends making a book about a guy we used to watch play basketball and saying he is better than michael jordan and his name is Walter and then some thousand years later having people vouch for Walter like they actually saw footage of him killing guys on the court lolll

you are actually worshipping ,john ,peter and the other apostles and writers and constantine who gave the green light on what to put in the bible...plus his name is not even jesus imagine that...I believe in a Most High and if I was born in a forest far away from civilisation I could still connect with the Most High jesus is strictly hearsay , we all know he was not born on dec 25th ,how can God in the flesh die ? and why did he ask God " why are you abandoning me ?" when he was on the cross and why did Satan try to corrupt him on the mountain ?? maybe because he was at most a prophet ? God in the flesh means you have to worship him and worshippin anybody other than God is a Sin

Everything you said the Bible refutes. Amen.

That doesn't make any sense. You know damn well Jesus didn't write the Bible, and yes Jesus did cry out to the skies "god/father why have you forsaken me", have you even read the Bible? Like most Christians, you pick and choose what to believe, but that's okay. Little kids sometimes believe X-Men and Spider-Man are real too.

1. The Holy Spirit, who is God, wrote the Bible by using 40 different Holy men of God. So yes God did write the Bible.

2. You don't understand why He cried out. For if you did the Bible answers whatever questions you have.

3. Humble yourself before the LORD and He will lift you up. Amen.

Um no, god did not write the Bible, people did. Just as people have written comic books, movie scripts, and poems that are not always real. People wrote the Koran and Hindu books too, so what's your point? People have written books saying god doesn't even exist, did god inspire that too? Anyone can write a damn book.

There are over a million gods that have existed according to humans, so you gotta bring more evidence to the table. If you would say Jesus is just very lazy, you would have more of a point. But in a meanwhile, Jesus isn't acting like a real god, I don't see him doing anything anywhere.

God, the Holy Spirit, wrote the scriptures my friend. He dwelled in the human writers and inspired them to write what He wanted to say. That is why the word of God is true and it is forever settled in heaven! You can either take it or leave it. Amen.

 

[Ether44mag]

holy ghost or not ,it was still written by humans and some scriptures were burned while others were manipulated ,I bet other people could write things now and say they were posessed by the holy spirit but nobody would believe em ,like we could decide in thousand years that "pac verses were inspired by the holy spirit and the devil was Diddy and you would have followers like you who would claim its all facts and you will go to hell if you dont pray to 2pac lolll sounds funny now but thats basically what happened with "jesus"

some people could write that 2pac died in 2020 because he resurected in cuba and if the powers that be killed everyone who claimed that story was not true and popularised the book as "law" thats all it would take to have people prayin to a false idol wich is a sin

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

holy ghost or not ,it was still written by humans and some scriptures were burned while others were manipulated ,I bet other people could write things now and say they were posessed by the holy spirit but nobody would believe em ,like we could decide in thousand years that "pac verses were inspired by the holy spirit and the devil was Diddy and you would have followers like you who would claim its all facts and you will go to hell if you dont pray to 2pac lolll sounds funny now but thats basically what happened with "jesus"

some people could write that 2pac died in 2020 because he resurected in cuba and if the powers that be killed everyone who claimed that story was not true and popularised the book as "law" thats all it would take to have people prayin to a false idol wich is a sin

It's not Holy Ghost or not. You either accept whats been revealed or you reject it. And whatever choice you make will have eternal ramifications. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

A good break down of the above vid.

 

[janklow]

lol you are retarded " random video " ??? its the video of the fake plane crashing in the building random how ??? lol

the "fake plane" is the point of disagreement

it's a "random video" because your expert on airplane crashes is a PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS

 

[Ether44mag]

lol you are retarded " random video " ??? its the video of the fake plane crashing in the building random how ??? lol

the "fake plane" is the point of disagreement

it's a "random video" because your expert on airplane crashes is a PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS

you dont need to be an engineering expert to explain that the plane entering the building like it did dont make no sense!! he's a PROFESSOR ,you need to go to university to be a professor, anybody who is not dumb knows about basic laws of physics man ....man you must be a troll lol

 

[kingblaze84]

@MallyG it's crazy my brother. There are so many sick people in the world. When you mess with the occult those videos are a glimpse of what happens on a ritualistic scale. Something more sinister is coming though and these folks have no clue. It's tragic, but they will get what they want. And when these spirit beings are revealed they will wish to die, but won't be able. Yes, they will seek death but death will flee from them. Amen.

See Revelation 9

Amen

I don't do the occult thing but what's so bad about it? It's just another way of being spiritual. And why should anyone take the book of Revelation seriously, it's just a weird, likely drug induced dream.

1. The occult is witchcraft. Amen.

2. The book of Revelation is about to be fulfilled in it's entirety very shortly. Watch therefore and be ready for Yeshua is coming back and BOY is He angry!

Amen.

What makes you think the book of Revelation is going to be fulfilled soon? Please. And how do you know Jesus is angry, what's he going to do when he comes back? I don't think Jesus is going to do anything anytime soon, only after 2,000 plus years he's suddenly gonna do something? Give me a break. Jesus doesn't seem to be the active type.

praying you will know the time and season of His return. Hallelujah! But if not, He will come upon you as a thief in the night and you'll be found naked in His sight. Woe unto your soul if that is you on that day. Amen.

Israel is the time piece of god? So the Bible god is basically co-signing the stealing of land and mistreatment of millions of people, but okay whatever. And sorry man but I don't see any evidence the Bible god is able to destroy its enemies, most of the world isn't Christian. Even most Christians don't take their own religion seriously, America supports gay marriage in its laws now, and America is a mostly Christian nation. So is the Bible god going to destroy America? Norway and Sweden have mostly agnostic or atheistic populations, and yet those nations seem to be doing just fine.

You're just assuming Jesus is going to destroy his enemies, but I don't see Jesus saving Christians in the Middle East. I didn't see Jesus save his chosen people during the Holocaust. You make Jesus appear more powerful then he really is.

1. Yes, Israel is the time-piece of God.

2. If you had the spirit of God you would know this. But since you don't, the things of God are foolishness to you. Amen.

3. Yes, Jesus Christ said that just as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days that He comes again. Only 8 souls were saved from the global flood. A world that was filled with billions of people and only 8 souls were saved. Yes, just like it was back then (godless) so shall it be in these days!

4. But there is a remnant that will be spared. Hallelujah!

5. Therefore repent and believe the gospel! It may be that the LORD will be gracious unto you in the day of His fierce anger.

Amen.

Jesus didn't back up Nat Turner's rebellion, why is that? If Jesus is such a righteous man of anger as you say, then why didn't Jesus himself back up Nat Turner's rebellion? Truth is, if Jesus wasn't angry at Christian slaves being brutalized for hundreds of years, I doubt he is angry about what's going on now. And even if Jesus is angry, so what, he shows no history of real action anyway. You admit Jesus didn't do shit during the Holocaust, and did nothing to help poor African slaves on cold slave ships. The Bible god is a pretty weak being at this point, no action, all talk, totally full of shit.

The LORD calls for a WOE upon people like you:



"Woe to those who drag iniquity with the cords of falsehood, And sin as if with cart ropes; 19Who say, "Let Him make speed, let Him hasten His work, that we may see it; And let the purpose of the Holy One of Israel draw near And come to pass, that we may know it!" Isaiah 5:18-19

a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

bro i'm not going to disturb you in your faith but believing in jesus is not actually believing in jesus because he did not write a SINGLE WORD in the bible....thats like me and my friends making a book about a guy we used to watch play basketball and saying he is better than michael jordan and his name is Walter and then some thousand years later having people vouch for Walter like they actually saw footage of him killing guys on the court lolll

you are actually worshipping ,john ,peter and the other apostles and writers and constantine who gave the green light on what to put in the bible...plus his name is not even jesus imagine that...I believe in a Most High and if I was born in a forest far away from civilisation I could still connect with the Most High jesus is strictly hearsay , we all know he was not born on dec 25th ,how can God in the flesh die ? and why did he ask God " why are you abandoning me ?" when he was on the cross and why did Satan try to corrupt him on the mountain ?? maybe because he was at most a prophet ? God in the flesh means you have to worship him and worshippin anybody other than God is a Sin

Everything you said the Bible refutes. Amen.

That doesn't make any sense. You know damn well Jesus didn't write the Bible, and yes Jesus did cry out to the skies "god/father why have you forsaken me", have you even read the Bible? Like most Christians, you pick and choose what to believe, but that's okay. Little kids sometimes believe X-Men and Spider-Man are real too.

1. The Holy Spirit, who is God, wrote the Bible by using 40 different Holy men of God. So yes God did write the Bible.

2. You don't understand why He cried out. For if you did the Bible answers whatever questions you have.

3. Humble yourself before the LORD and He will lift you up. Amen.

Um no, god did not write the Bible, people did. Just as people have written comic books, movie scripts, and poems that are not always real. People wrote the Koran and Hindu books too, so what's your point? People have written books saying god doesn't even exist, did god inspire that too? Anyone can write a damn book.

There are over a million gods that have existed according to humans, so you gotta bring more evidence to the table. If you would say Jesus is just very lazy, you would have more of a point. But in a meanwhile, Jesus isn't acting like a real god, I don't see him doing anything anywhere.

God, the Holy Spirit, wrote the scriptures my friend. He dwelled in the human writers and inspired them to write what He wanted to say. That is why the word of God is true and it is forever settled in heaven! You can either take it or leave it. Amen.

Doesn't fucking matter, HUMANS still wrote it. Some humans have written books that say god doesn't even exist, does that mean god inspired those people too? Anyone can write a book bruh, you think people who wrote the Bible are special? Then what about people who wrote books dissing Jesus and Christianity? Please tell me which god inspired those people, I'll wait.

Bottom line: god has never written a book by itself. Especially the Bible god, who ironically, never speaks for itself.....hmm, I wonder why.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

 

[Ether44mag]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

The Word of God is always the final authority on all matters and is true absolutely. There are no rebuttals to "What Thus saith the LORD". You either accept His word or you reject His word. It's as simple as that. And at the end of the day when we all turn back to dust, those who accepted the word of God will live forever and those who didn't will perish forever.

As for the elites you talk about make no mistake about it the devil is the one who is masquerading behind them. He is a liar who has no truth in him and has deceived the nations! All those who are functioning under his lies are merely role players, no matter how convincing they may be. Their power and authority comes from their ability to deceive as even they themselves have been deceived. All their plots and schemes and the manipulation of things of the world are no more reality than the props on a Hollywood stage.

Therefore there is no fear once you know the truth! For the truth will set you free. Therefore I stand on the ROCK! Hallelujah! And on the ROCK I bid "whosoever will" let them come! Will you come today my friend?

 

[Ether44mag]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

The Word of God is always the final authority on all matters and is true absolutely. There are no rebuttals to "What Thus saith the LORD". You either accept His word or you reject His word. It's as simple as that. And at the end of the day when we all turn back to dust, those who accepted the word of God will live forever and those who didn't will perish forever.

As for the elites you talk about make no mistake about it the devil is the one who is masquerading behind them. He is a liar who has no truth in him and has deceived the nations! All those who are functioning under his lies are merely role players, no matter how convincing they may be. Their power and authority comes from their ability to deceive as even they themselves have been deceived. All their plots and schemes and the manipulation of things of the world are no more reality than the props on a Hollywood stage.

Therefore there is no fear once you know the truth! For the truth will set you free. Therefore I stand on the ROCK! Hallelujah! And on the ROCK I bid "whosoever will" let them come! Will you come today my friend?

Now...what would be their best way to deceive you and make you bow down to a false God ? Chew on that shit

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

The Word of God is always the final authority on all matters and is true absolutely. There are no rebuttals to "What Thus saith the LORD". You either accept His word or you reject His word. It's as simple as that. And at the end of the day when we all turn back to dust, those who accepted the word of God will live forever and those who didn't will perish forever.

As for the elites you talk about make no mistake about it the devil is the one who is masquerading behind them. He is a liar who has no truth in him and has deceived the nations! All those who are functioning under his lies are merely role players, no matter how convincing they may be. Their power and authority comes from their ability to deceive as even they themselves have been deceived. All their plots and schemes and the manipulation of things of the world are no more reality than the props on a Hollywood stage.

Therefore there is no fear once you know the truth! For the truth will set you free. Therefore I stand on the ROCK! Hallelujah! And on the ROCK I bid "whosoever will" let them come! Will you come today my friend?

Now...what would be their best way to deceive you and make you bow down to a false God ? Chew on that shit

ummmm this is what the Bible says. Wake up for once my friend. Before it's too late.

 

[Ether44mag]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

The Word of God is always the final authority on all matters and is true absolutely. There are no rebuttals to "What Thus saith the LORD". You either accept His word or you reject His word. It's as simple as that. And at the end of the day when we all turn back to dust, those who accepted the word of God will live forever and those who didn't will perish forever.

As for the elites you talk about make no mistake about it the devil is the one who is masquerading behind them. He is a liar who has no truth in him and has deceived the nations! All those who are functioning under his lies are merely role players, no matter how convincing they may be. Their power and authority comes from their ability to deceive as even they themselves have been deceived. All their plots and schemes and the manipulation of things of the world are no more reality than the props on a Hollywood stage.

Therefore there is no fear once you know the truth! For the truth will set you free. Therefore I stand on the ROCK! Hallelujah! And on the ROCK I bid "whosoever will" let them come! Will you come today my friend?

Now...what would be their best way to deceive you and make you bow down to a false God ? Chew on that shit

ummmm this is what the Bible says. Wake up for once my friend. Before it's too late.[/quote

ok forget about it lol you dont see past your nose how old are you ?

 

[Plutarch]

look at what you answered in that last part " his death lead to the existence of salvation " how do you know that is true ?

I'm not sure that I entirely understand your question.

If you are asking whether or not Christian salvation is true or false in itself, then that sounds like a different topic. You might as well ask whether Christianity is true or false. My original point wasn't so much to argue the veracity of Christianity or argue the veracity of my interpretation of Christianity. It was simply to provide a commonly accepted (imo) counterargument to kingblaze's flawed (imo) interpretation of Christianity.

and plus its a lie and a blasphemy to the original concept wich is God's people are already chosen ,

I somewhat disagree. I and many others (Christian and non-Christians) don't believe that God's children are already chosen. I wonder whether you believe that yourself or whether you even believe in religion altogether (if you are an atheist, then why even take up a theistic argument in the first place?). The matter of predestination obviously has not reached a consensus in the many sects of the Abrahamic religions, so I would argue that your point is, at worst, a false presupposition, if that's the right word.

Again, this all sounds slightly different from the original topic, but that's cool, too.

but this fake religion ,makes you think all you have to do to be accepted by GOD is to give praise to a human being who walked the earth ...now forget all that you been taught and think for yourself for a second....Jesus is not even the guys real name but sayin you believe in him makes you go to heaven ? worshipping a human being ? wich is a sin, to worship anyone other than the creator

Much of what you have described here is not of my beliefs, so I think that what you have said here doesn't apply much to me.

so they told you that now we have salvation and you believe without fact because you have "faith" right ? but to the eye test NOTHING CHANGED!

I believe in what I believe due to faith, yes, but not by faith alone and not entirely without "facts." I also disagree that nothing has changed for reasons I've stated earlier. I also believe that an "eye test" is not a very good test.

smh and that faith thing is so fake because people believed in "jesus" because of the miracles he performed ,right ? but now we supposed to believe without no evidence and have "faith" when his own disciples believed in him because of the miracles he performed ...hmmmmmm

I don't agree with the premises that you've stated. Imo, Christian faith is not based on miracles. Believing in miracles is one thing. Believing in Christ is entirely different thing. And as I've said before, faith is just one essential piece to the large puzzle of Christianity.

 

[kingblaze84]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

judging by your answers ,what you are basically sayin is that you have 100% trust in human beings ,you dont seem to be one bit spiritual or have wisdom and understanding of life as a whole ,you simply believe anything that relates to the bible ,you dont seem to know nothing about ,lies,corruption ,hidden agendas , you dont even seem to give anything the benefit of the doubt ,you are just a blind sheep ,a religion robot ,you dont exist yet ,your eyes are closed

thinking that the bible is 100% facts is the same thing as saying that you trust the government and the elite that they will always give us the whole truth lol ,see Trump and Hillary ,do you trust them motherfuckers ? well people who were making decisions back when the bible was written and released were even worst ,but yeah ,the bible is pure facts ,nobody had hidden agendas put in there , ok lol

Fantastic answer....Goat'd

 

[Plutarch]

I definitely don't have a problem agreeing to disagree lol. I fully admit that my idea of a god is probably different then yours, maybe I watched too much Marvel or DC TV shows growing up, but I expect a god to be powerful. Jesus dying by being stabbed, embarrassed, stripped and hung from a cross never seemed godlike to me.

Lol, I get that. I wouldn't mind that version myself to be honest.

And why can't Jesus act like a superhero? Isn't he a god?

I think he is and he isn't. I don't think that I know anyone who truly understands the Trinity. It's an incomprehensible concept, imo.

As I said before, I agree that my idea of a god is different then yours, but I just don't see much action from Jesus at all on Earth.

I agree and disagree. Gone are the Old Testament floods and plagues, it seems. But others will tell you differently. don't know. I do think that crazy, weird, supernatural, inexplicable, and/or miraculous things happen every day, so it's possible that some of those things can be attributed to the Trinity, according to many Christians.

People are weak, and Christians are people, so Christians are weak, and they need positive reinforcement, whether it's real or false. I don't think that there would be as many Christians in the world today if they believed that they saw little-to-no action from Jesus/God.

So when DOU goes on and on about Jesus burning me and others alive when I die or if he comes back soon, he needs to bring some proof of outlandish threats like that.

Lol, yeah. If that's the case, then much respect to DOU, but his methodology is not my methodology. We all have our own beliefs. I'm willing to defend mine at any time, but I try to be respectful and not needlessly step on anyone's toes.

 

[kingblaze84]

Yes it does matter. You are either going to accept revelation or continue to participate in speculation. God wrote the Bible. That is why every word of God is true. You either accept the revelation or reject it. That's your choice. But God has also laid out the consequences for rejecting Him. And if you die in such a state of unbelief you will go to where you wanted to be in the first place! Which is The lake of fire where you will be forever separated from the love of God. Amen.

LOL no you silly fool, the lazy Bible god did not write the Bible, human beings wrote it. Notice the lazy Bible god IS NOT BACKING YOU UP. You're just repeating shit that people wrote, not angels, not god, PEOPLE wrote.

Jesus never told me I would go to hell if I don't believe in him. Jesus never told me I would burn in a lake of fire for thinking the Bible is full of shit. Jesus has never talked to me bruh, where you getting all this phony baloney from? I'm even gonna call out to Jesus right here, right now..........

Hey Jesus, it's me, Kingblaze84. Where are ya? Some weird guy named DOU keeps saying I'm gonna burn in a giant lake of fire because I don't believe in you, is that true? Why can't you speak for yourself, Mr. Jesus? Why are you hiding like a coward all the time? Jesus? Hey you there....? Aight, guess you forgot how to talk.



See, I called out to him. Let's see if he ever responds. I doubt Jesus is ever gonna back you up directly, why? Because he was never a real god to begin with. And don't say I didn't try to reach out to Jesus, I just did, right now.

 

[Ether44mag]

look at what you answered in that last part " his death lead to the existence of salvation " how do you know that is true ?

I'm not sure that I entirely understand your question.

If you are asking whether or not Christian salvation is true or false in itself, then that sounds like a different topic. You might as well ask whether Christianity is true or false. My original point wasn't so much to argue the veracity of Christianity or argue the veracity of my interpretation of Christianity. It was simply to provide a commonly accepted (imo) counterargument to kingblaze's flawed (imo) interpretation of Christianity.

and plus its a lie and a blasphemy to the original concept wich is God's people are already chosen ,

I somewhat disagree. I and many others (Christian and non-Christians) don't believe that God's children are already chosen. I wonder whether you believe that yourself or whether you even believe in religion altogether (if you are an atheist, then why even take up a theistic argument in the first place?). The matter of predestination obviously has not reached a consensus in the many sects of the Abrahamic religions, so I would argue that your point is, at worst, a false presupposition, if that's the right word.

Again, this all sounds slightly different from the original topic, but that's cool, too.

but this fake religion ,makes you think all you have to do to be accepted by GOD is to give praise to a human being who walked the earth ...now forget all that you been taught and think for yourself for a second....Jesus is not even the guys real name but sayin you believe in him makes you go to heaven ? worshipping a human being ? wich is a sin, to worship anyone other than the creator

Much of what you have described here is not of my beliefs, so I think that what you have said here doesn't apply much to me.

so they told you that now we have salvation and you believe without fact because you have "faith" right ? but to the eye test NOTHING CHANGED!

I believe in what I believe due to faith, yes, but not by faith alone and not entirely without "facts." I also disagree that nothing has changed for reasons I've stated earlier. I also believe that an "eye test" is not a very good test.

smh and that faith thing is so fake because people believed in "jesus" because of the miracles he performed ,right ? but now we supposed to believe without no evidence and have "faith" when his own disciples believed in him because of the miracles he performed ...hmmmmmm

I don't agree with the premises that you've stated. Imo, Christian faith is not based on miracles. Believing in miracles is one thing. Believing in Christ is entirely different thing. And as I've said before, faith is just one essential piece to the large puzzle of Christianity.

first off I believe in a creator I like to call him "The Most High" because I cant go wrong with that , there can be alot of Gods but the most high is ...well... the MOST high lol

@Plutarch

I consider myself VERY spiritual ,I been trough ALOT of spiritual experiences in my life since my third eye been activated about 15 years ago and since then I read alot of different philosophies of life ,read a little bit about egyptian mythology ,greek mythology ,watched zeitgeist and alot of things that I wont even talk about here because its just too deep...went to librarys where masons buy their books etc but LOGIC and KARMA is what I base my life on, religion is man made !! man is WICKED ,not pure at all ,people who decide things and give green lights dont have our best interest at heart so automaticaly when something is promoted to the masses by the elite ,I question it.

I do believe that the bible has alot of wisdom in it ,some truth ,ALOT of metaphores that should not be taken literaly for exemple : the story of the turtle and the hare is not a true story but has REAL wisdom in it

but the part that people dont pay attention too is that the devil is supposed to be a deceiver and the story says that Lucifer was Gods favorite angel right ? then he became jealous of humans and rebeled against God and wanted to be worshipped like him, right ? ok fast forward a little bit and all of a sudden some human comes and defies the natural laws like being birthed from a virgin ,why does she have to be a virgin ? second he gets killed for calling himself God in the flesh and being the son of God...they beat his ass ,kill him on a cross ,the same way they killed criminals and rapists ,then he supposedly ressurected THAT IS THE MAIN REASON why they claim he is the messiah so yeah the religion is based on miracles ,things normal humans cant do , so all you have to do is believe that it really happened to be a christian LOLLLL

but those people who WROTE the bible serve as Witnesses ,so believeing in Jesus is believing in THEIR testimony but nobody questions their credibility and thats just dumb! It could all be a lie ,and remember who got cast out of heaven to be WORSHIPPED and wanted to be seen as powerful as God ? chew on that shit

but hey I could be totally wrong ,but I only Pray to the MOST high so i cant REALLY be wrong , but what if Jesus is not actually holy ? what happens then ? what if its a plan to deceive the REAL commandments of the most high that none of us know because they destroyed or hid them and did not release it to the public ? always think about what you DONT KNOW , focusing on what THEY GIVE YOU is for simple minded people and trust me ,people who promoted that story and religion are not simple minded at all...

 

[Ether44mag]

plus people who wrote the stories abouth jesus were his disciples they were what 12 ? hahahahaha you mean to tell me the son of god , God in the flesh only has 12 followers ? really ? most people know Trump is a fraud but he still has thousands and thousands of followers ,now imagine his 12 most hardcore fans wrote a book about him ? Bias anybody ? those disciples dont even have last names hahahaha , and plus jesus is represented on a cross ,really you represent him with the thing they used to kill him with ? talk with people who believe and those who have doubts and listen to wich sound more inteligent ,the people who believe are the same people who believe everything they see on the internet ,those who cant even notice when a prank is staged lol those are the SHEEP being guided by jesus ,the overall message is " be docile ,turn the other cheek ,obey, " wow I wonder who would profit from this mentality ,hmmmm

and why all those scare tactics ? if you do this you GOIN TO HELL !! ahhahah parents do the same thing to kids ," if you do this you will be rewarded by santa clause " santa claus dont exist ,the parents buy the gifts and we realise this around 6 or 7 years old ,guess most will realise that jesus thing was fake when they die .