Anonymous Leaks Horrifying Video of Stuebenville High Schoolers Joking About Raping a Teenager

Maybe it was just the way I was raised, but how do you not know your 16yo daughter is passed out the majority of the night?

No cell phone check-ins?

Parents should know how 16yo's behave if left to their own devices...they were there once.

Keep tabs on your kids! I don't know how many times I've heard parents of mid-teens talking about, "I've raised my kids.."

No, no you haven't..you ain't done yet.

Rather foolish to say. The younger years is when we plant the seed while our children are more so under our wings but those mid teen years is when we put them out further into the real world and things get real.

That's when we really see our children flourish and the real "issues" start and good, active parenting is needed more than ever.

Impressionable youths, peer pressure, hormonal changes and someone actually thinks this is a good time to "quit" parenting? Smh. Complete non sense.

 

[Crude_]

@Skyler I usually agree with most of your post.

While I agree that the guys were terribly wrong I think you are somewhat minimizing the importance of the young lady's poor decision making.

We all know rape is wrong, but don't allow yourself to be put in certain situations that could entice that sort of behavior is all I'm saying.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

^^I agree, but there's a pervasive culture of misogyny in America that is present in every one of these cases.

These young men think it's okay to abuse women and somehow, some way everyone always finds a way to blame the victim.

I hope the girl learned her lesson about getting sloppy drunk but Christ, she's a kid. I'm sure the majority of us have gotten fucked up beyond belief before we learned how to drink responsibly. I know I have (twice, and now I only drink wine) and I was blessed to be with some cool ass friends that looked out for me on one occasion. The other time I was in my own apartment.

Should we blame her for making a common mistake that most of us have made before? NO! She's doing what kids do.

We're overlooking the fact that these kids RAPED and EXPLOITED a girl that was clearly not in control.

One of the guys dated her in the past and plotted with her former friends and his equally twisted fucked up friends to have her raped.

Their acts were premeditated and conscious.

If any one deserves to shoulder the blame, its them, not her.

I do agree that the culture of misogyny is America is messed up, but hate the complaint about blaming the victim. I'm sorry but you can't present yourself like you're a piece of meat and then get mad when you're treated like a piece of meat. That shit doesn't make sense.

And yes, we do blame her for making a common mistake. I don't know why people have this perception that because other people do dumb shit and get away with it, it's ok for everyone to dumb shit with the expectation of getting away with it.

The guys raped her and are getting punished for it. That's justice and right. At the same time, we shouldn't be looking at her like some faultless victim who was just snatched of the street and rapped out of nowhere.

A piece of meat? The girl was FULLY dressed. Are you forgetting that TWO boys took her clothes off while she was too drunk to resist?

So by having too much to drink, she presented herself as a piece of meat? The only type of people who would see a drunk, helpless woman as a "piece of meat" is a rapist. Plain and simple. No man of sound mind and moral fidelity would see a woman that cant consent to sex as a "piece of meat." Especially a woman that has to be carried by hand and foot.

Are you saying that only rape victims that are "snatched off the street and raped out of nowhere" are the only fautless victims? What about victims of child molestation? They arent always snatched off of the street, usually they're familiar with the perp and the perp uses their impaired judgement as an opportunity to take advantage of them...just like the boys in this case did.

I don't know if you have kids but I hope you teach your daughters/sons about safe alcohol consumption. Most parents don't teach their kids how to drink responsibly and it leads to shit like this in late teens/young adulthood. This girl was a 17 year old. She didn't know her limits and she didn't have a group of friends to protect her AND she had a group of boys and fake friends plotting to rape her.

I think we put too much energy into blaming the victim instead of training young men that drunk, incapacitated women are not fair game. But I dont think it mattered because these boys were full fledged rapists. They planned the attack on this girl prior to the party.

What the fuck? Your whole post plays out like you lack reading comprehension.

First, my "piece of meat" comment was not directed specifically at this case. You started your post off in general terms and I responded in kind.

Second, now where in my post did I state or imply that people snatched off the street were the only faultless victims. I just used that as an example of a faultless victim and stated that she did not fit into that category.

Third, yes she made a mistake, and no it's not fair what happened her, but once again those boys being wrong does not excuse her bad judgement.

Fourth, I absolutely disagree that we put to much energy into blaming the victim. The fact is, more often than not it's an uphill battle for any guy once he's been accused of rape. And the only reason the whole "blame the victim" tactic is so popular now is because there are so many cases of wild females acting up and then trying to claim rape to excuse their bad behavior. This is especially the case when concerning white women and black men. Whole towns have been destroyed over white women falsely accusing black men of violating them sexually. And before you take that statement out of context because that seems like something you do. I'm not saying that wild chicks deserve to get raped or all wild chicks that say they were raped are lying. I'm just saying that there has been a growing movement of that, and this "blame the victim" thing is a backlash against that.

Yes, we should train young men to treat women better and get them out of doing disgusting shit like this, but we should also train women not to put themselves in positions where stuff like this is going to happen. This is the real world. It's not paradise. There are bad people out there. It's not ok to knowingly put yourself in a position where those bad people can prey on you just because if they do pull something foul, they're the ones that will be at fault.

 

[Kat]

Because it's not that serious...he's got what he needs to keep people out.

 

[Mr.LV]

One thing these kids nowadays lack is fear towards they parents but than again my parents were born in the 1950's and they did not tolerate any of this bullshit.They were quick to say "I bought you into this world and I can take you out of this world"!

 

[Crude_]

I'm so confused...I swear @Louisiana Crude types so much shit that the bullshit gets buried in all of that text.

How can you say she "didn't deserve to be raped" but in the same breath say "she presented herself like a woman of loose standards and was treated as such"? So did she deserve it or not?

Even "a woman of loose standards" gives consent. A hoe can be a hoe but she still has to agree to give you some pussy. This girl was literally dragged from house to house and raped. She didn't give consent.

Loose standards? So being a kid who doesn't know how to drink and getting way too drunk in public is "loose standards"? No it's called being young and dumb.

I wonder if the tables were turned would you guys be singing the same tune. If your son got drunk and passed out at a party and 4 violent homosexual rapists PLOTTED before the party to drag him from house to house putting ingers in his ass and recording it, is he a "man of loose standards"?

Says the woman who types as much as I do or more.

Let me give you an analogy.

I'm not going to go to the bad part of town flossing nice jewelry and other valuables.

That's asking to get robbed.

If my ass gets robbed sure the robbers were wrong but my ass shoulda used better common sense than to take my valuables to were I know shady fucks hang out the same with this girl.

Getting back to the topic.

When guys are the age of the ones in this case it's generally one thing on their mind and it ain't a girls great personality.

I'm sure most girls know that as well.

With that being said do you think it's a wise idea for a girl to get intoxicated to the point of passing out around a bunch of drunk and horny adolescent boys.

The shit is asking for trouble.

I've acknowledged the boys being wrong.

The girl made a poor ass decision though.

The shit isn't rocket science.

Alcohol, a girl or woman, and horny adolescents or even some men period don't mix.

You think I'm lying you go try it by yourself without any of your allies around and see how you turn out.

There is nothing hard to understand about that my post are pretty direct and I tend to over explain shit.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Fuck all those words...

 

[Mr.LV]

She is alive she could of easily gotten killed in this type of situation

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

All they got was a year? Wow.

 

[Mr.LV]

She also could have easily been tucked away in a bed to sleep her drunkenness off.

SMH...

It could of been worse outcome those two boys

All they got was a year? Wow.

They 16 and 17 years old they was saying they can possibly face more time in the future.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

I'm so confused...I swear @Louisiana Crude types so much shit that the bullshit gets buried in all of that text.

How can you say she "didn't deserve to be raped" but in the same breath say "she presented herself like a woman of loose standards and was treated as such"? So did she deserve it or not?

Even "a woman of loose standards" gives consent. A hoe can be a hoe but she still has to agree to give you some pussy. This girl was literally dragged from house to house and raped. She didn't give consent.

Loose standards? So being a kid who doesn't know how to drink and getting way too drunk in public is "loose standards"? No it's called being young and dumb.

I wonder if the tables were turned would you guys be singing the same tune. If your son got drunk and passed out at a party and 4 violent homosexual rapists PLOTTED before the party to drag him from house to house putting ingers in his ass and recording it, is he a "man of loose standards"?

Im not making light of this situation but....

You do know that niggas get raped everyday in prison and nobody gives a fuck. Even in Juvie...

Is it the rape that is sick and disgusting or does it depend on who the victim is?

 

[R.D.]

just saw this thread...if you didnt laugh at that video, you have no sense o humor

 

[Mr.LV]

just saw this thread...if you didnt laugh at that video, you have no sense o humor

I shouldn't laugh at that video but there were certain parts of that video that had a nigga weak though.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You implied that the only victims that are faultless are ones that are "snatched off of the street." Don't expect me to imply anything beyond what you've stated. It's not that I lack reading comprehension, you lack the ability to state clear and concise points. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

No, I did not. I said exactly that she wasn't a faultless victim that got snatched off the street. Nowhere in that statement is there any implication that only victims that get snatched off the street are faultless. You're just making up shit.

I agree that false rape accusations are increasingly prevalent, and that some women use the justice system to exact revenge. However, this isn't the case here. This girl was PLOTTED on and taken advantage of. So why is she being compared to liars and schemers? That's not what she did.

Again, nowhere did I say that any of that pertained to her. As I stated before, my post was in direct response to the general statements you made about blaming the victim. I also explained why the "blaming the victim" tactic is so often employed. At no point did I ever say that what happened with her was comparable. Again, this seems to be a reading comprehension problem because even after I explicitly and clearly state which part of your post I was responding to, you still drag in parts that aren't relevant to my post.

I do agree that we should train young women to avoid situations that lead to them being incapacitated. I personally think that all parents should train their kids to drink alcohol responsibly before the age of 21, but that's beside the point. You said that women should be aware of "bad people out there" but what does that have to do with this victim? She was at a party with people that she knew and thought she could trust. One of her attackers was her ex boyfriend. She went to school with these people, dated these people, and knew them for years...I doubt she had a reason to consider them "bad" or expect to be raped by them.

Are you serious right now? Since when has a whole party of people been comprised of people you could trust totally? When have you ever been to a houseparty with more than 10 people and thought that every single person in there was 100% down for you no question. You have to be joking. So maybe she might not have expected her ex to be one of the "bad" people. The point is, if she went in there being responsible because she was aware of the risk that overdoing it would expose her to, she wouldn't have been taken advantage of. Period.

You're diminishing the role that misogyny plays in this event and it saddens me because its very telling of how oblivious some men are to how misogynistic they REALLY are. And it's not that I'm blaming you for that, it's just that misogyny is so normalized in our society that to think any other way is strange.

You're like one of those people that doesn't want to listen. You just like to state your opinion and then look down on anyone who thinks differently huh? I've already agreed that the American culture is too misogynistic. I've already stated that these dudes and any dudes that think or act like them are dead wrong. That points passed, so no I'm not diminishing the role of anything. But even if this society wasn't misogynistic, there would still be rapists and sexual predators out there. There would still be a reason for females to make wise and responsible decisions. People like you do as much or more damage than any misogynist out there. Because you spend so much time talking about what she happen ideally that you forget that you can equip people to handle with reality. Yes, we should work to eliminate misogyny from our society the same way we need to eliminate racism, classism, and every other thing like that. That doesn't mean we should ignore that bad things still exist, and it doesn't mean we should refrain from pointing out when people are making poor decisions and causing themselves to be easy targets for those bad things.

 

[Crude_]

I'm far from a misogynist @Skyler

Shit I usually take the woman's side in situations such as this I'm not HOH like some guys around here.

I look at the situation objectively as I can and give an opinion.

Teenage girls shouldn't be drinking in the first place let's start there.

You acting like that shit is cool or hip when it's against the law and dangerous because most young people period don't know how to consume alcohol in safe amounts much less younger underage people.

They are also more prone to make bad decisions while under the influence case and point this situation.

The boys were probably drinking and probably a little intoxicated themselves and took advantage of the situation.

Even though the courts say it was planned I don't know if the situation was so much meticulously planned as opposed to the situation just presenting itself.

The girl made a mistake and the boys should have known better.

The girl made an ignorant decision whether she did it knowingly or not we will never know but there are plenty of fingers to point in the way of fault here.

Girl shouldn't have been raped but she shouldn't have been drinking either underage nor should she have been at that party without parental consent which I highly doubt she got.

Reckless ass behavior leads to reckless consequences I'm just pointing that out.

This is fact and you say I'm being misogynist but I think you are being rather sexist and narrow minded in your judgement when you make assertion.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

She also could have easily been tucked away in a bed to sleep her drunkenness off.

SMH...

It could of been worse outcome those two boys

All they got was a year? Wow.

They 16 and 17 years old they was saying they can possibly face more time in the future.

They could face more time in the future? How? If a Psychiatrists deems that they are still rapists....... Iiiii don't think so. They'll be in College on time most likely.

 

[aneed123]

shit was wrong on all accords and they got their just due.... with that said before the internet and video/ picture taking generation this would have been a regular train/set out situation and everyone woulda went on with their lives.... harsh but true reality

 

[Kat]

lol @ grown dudes acting like minors should have the same foresight as them after years of trial and error.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

lol @ grown dudes acting like minors should have the same foresight as them after years of trial and error.

Nobody is acting like that at all. As I've already stated, young people are going to do dumb shit. That dumb shit will sometimes have very bad consequences. That's part of growing up. Just because they are young doesn't mean the error of their ways shouldn't be pointed out. If you don't do that, they'll never really learn. If the only think that's stated about this case is that the boys are scum, then young women will miss out on the lesson that they shouldn't let themselves lose control like that especially around a group they don't know for sure they can trust.

 

[Crude_]

lol @ grown dudes acting like minors should have the same foresight as them after years of trial and error.

I agree with you here that's why I think think punishment was adequate.

It kinda shoots down what Skyler was saying on the cool though.

It sucks that they have to register as sex offenders for life though or however that works.

I'm not sure if it's life or not in this situation.