nujerz84;7319802 said:5 Grand;7319474 said:nujerz84;7318038 said:5 Grand;7317823 said:nujerz84;7317640 said:S2J;7317585 said:nujerz84;7317515 said:S2J;7317501 said:nujerz84;7317473 said:S2J;7317438 said:nujerz84;7317408 said:S2J;7317356 said:bignorm;7316247 said:Eminem is nowhere near my top 10.
I've never played an Eminem album, outside the Eminem Show, more than twice, IN LIFE.
Rap is about shared references. You can tell the blacks who grew up closer to whites, because
they feel Em. To those who grew up in a stereotypically "black" background, the shit he raps
about might as well be Chinese.
That's not a diss to my niggas Stew or Sion neither, but, a lot of niggas don't understand yall putting Em
in the goats list, like how whites don't understand how Trayvon Martin was considered to be criminally murdered by most niggas.
THe lack of understanding comes from being from two different perspectives/world views.
I didnt see this earlier. This is what im sayin. Its no disrepect toallthe black Emimem fans, Lol But i just dont get it.
Like for example, Im a Jay fan. i occaisionally go back and listen to Reasonable Doubt. Im a Nas fan, i can play Illmatic right now. If you're a grown Eminem fan, soooo, how does that work? How do you go back and listen to 'chica chica slim shaady. Hi! My name is!'. Eh? You cringed just now, didnt you? You grown now, you not a rebellious teen, how do you rock wit his rebellious teen content?
And you know how you rap along to a song at home/in the club and get in ya little rhythm? You rap the words like u the one wrote it. Yall know what i mean! So how does one---a black man--- rap along to 'I AM , whatever u say i am!' or 'Please stand up, please stand up'? Like how does that even work. I dont get it.
You trying to hard to come off all knowledgable but continue to make yourself look like an idiot.
I mean you do know where the hook from The Way I Am comes from right without Googling it.
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I dont know or associate with any nggas that rock out to Eminem, b. Thats the bottom line. If you black and you dont acknowledge this i tip my hat to you, but we cut from a different cloth. This is not a debate irl. And i hate havin debates online, that are not topics irl
There you have you it, instead of coming up with dumb ass reasons to Big Up Jay which is easily destroyed with-anyone with common sense and actual knowledge of hiphop..
A simple I don't like/listen to Em cause he's white and I'm black was all that is needed.
Cause everything else you posted was complete bullshit
You close your eyes and zone out to 'Just Lose It'. *Tips cap*. Enjoy the rest of your day fam. nh
Step up the debate skills and overall hiphop knowledge instead of talking out ya ass cause you will get called on the bullshit.
See, you try to disregard nggas politely but they take kindness for weakeness.
Ngga you aint callin out shyt. Doesnt matter how far this culture has moved from its origin, its still THE CULTURE. And if you, im assuming a black man, willfully disregard cultural aspects of hip hop just b/c white america and white teens tell you, kill yourself.
According to white america Iggy Azalea is a pop rap icon, Maclemore > Kendrick Lmar, Gucci Mane and 2 Chainz are representative of black america.
In other words, when when i discuss things on this site, im asuming im amongst commoners. I dont dicuss includign their opinion. They not of my culture. So why would their opinion matter when 'we' discuss the Goats in 'our' shyt. Eminem not bein a Goat isnt b/c he's white. He's not a goat b/c his catalogue is corny, he's corny, white or black. In fact 'corny' is a designation white america cant even make! They dotn know how to differentiate. Thats why Flo-Rida to them is an icon lls So no, im not gonna play dumb like hip hop culutre is not selective.
I have been speaking on Hip Hop Culture and more specific rap music, a lot of the reasons you gave throughout this thread as to why Jay is bigger than Em had nothing to do with either.
Yet all this talk about culture you still don't where the Hook " The Way I Am Comes from.
Since Jay return there a reason Euro Jay gets thrown around, what culture he been rapping about? Folks in The hood and most urban areas are not wearing Tom Ford.
You made reference to that song and in relation to be grown men in clubs knowing his shit.
Retarded logic 1.. Em is not and never been a club/party rapper
2. To play the grown man cringing in the club angle..Any grown ass mature man that is not a ignant cat wouldn't co-sign shit like Hey Papi, Big Pimpin either.
1. If Em has never been a club/party rapper what was The Real Slim Shady/Without Me/Just Lose It all about? Those songs seemed like they were made for white people at nightclubs. But I can't really say because I don't go to clubs where whites frequent. I know damn well if a DJ played one of those records at a Black club he'd get run out of the DJ booth before the record was over.
2. You're buggin about Big Pimpin, that's a classic club anthem. And I'm a 40 year old Black American.
Fail 1. Those arent club records.
Fail 2. The point went over your head.. To be more specific you playing big pimping in front of ya moms, wife/gf or better yet ya daughter.
Shit you ya daughters date come thru to pick her up and he blasting saying this..
"You know I - thug em, fuck em, love em, leave em
Cause I don't fuckin need em
Take em out the hood, keep em lookin good
But I don't fuckin feed em
First time they fuss I'm breezin
Talkin bout, "What's the reasons?"
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch"
Cause as grown mature adults with common sense aint co signing that ignant bullshit.
Nosign. That's how we do. We take cruises, drive around in fly cars(even if they're rented), vacations in exotic places. Maybe not on the level that Jay Z was doing it but when you reach adulthood you start living that life.
Lemme guess, you still live at home with your mama?
For a 40 Year old cat you clearing lack common sense and reasoning...again you missed the point as it went over your head. All you that shit you said has nothing to do what Big Pimping is about in Jay-z verses...simply put it about him pimping hoes. Jay-z himself won't be playing Big Pimping in front of Blue Ivy anytime soon.
Your retorts and arguments are weak. I been took cruises and traveled worldwide since before I was 18. In a few weeks I take my annual Vegas trip consists of fucking broads I recruit for my friends website..
Sit ya old ass down somewhere.
Bottom Line, Jay Z's rhymes in Big Pimpin were every man's fantasy. Not only every man's fantasy but every women's fantasy too. Every women wants a guy who has lots of money and is willing to spend it on the lavish life. And if your daughter has the looks, chances are she'll be getting down with a guy like that when she reaches the age that the girls of the Big Pimpin video.
I'll explain the pimp game to you; Any college age (like the girls in the Big Pimpin video) girl wants to shake her ass, exploit men and share the money with a nigga that has game and knows how to control her. That's what girls want. Girls are submissive by nature and men are dominant by nature. Girls want a man to take charge and dominate her. But its weak niggas like you that hate on the pimps and players. Next thing you'll probably type that Jay Z's lyrics are misogynistic. GTFOHWTBS