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matt- said:Don't forget the team actually selling shirts that remind their fans just how long it's been since they won a title and charging $20 to remind them how they have rarely come close since then
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EmM HoLLa.;4220341 said:Cosmic_Cannon;4219766 said:EmM HoLLa.;4219579 said:Yo @rakim ii .. I overstand you Bro..
What people dont understand.. Is that New York despite what you want to think.. Is a basketball city.. They dont call it the Mecca for nothing.. Every neighborhood has a basketball court.. If not a court there is a crate.. Every neighborhood does not have a baseball diamond or a football field.. Meaning that as a kid.. Coming up to keep busy you played ball.. Every kid in the inner city plays ball.. At least thats how it was when I was coming up.. And to have the only basketball franchise in the city STINK for damn near 40 years.. It hurts man... If nothing else.. New York City embodies basketball.. A good majority of our fans know the game well... And the product that has been put on the court has been sub par.. Or somehow sabotaged.. Whether it be by injury.. Inept management.. Or just plain old bad luck.. SMH shit is wack..
All of our good players are hurt.. Tyson (Wrists), Melo (Groin, Wrist, Ankle), Amar'e (Back), Lin (Knee), Davis (Back).. Shit is wack man.. I believe Amare was playing hurt all damn year..
I truly believe this team with everyone 100% could do something.. Now.. I dunno.. We will just wait and see. But I can say that I would be surprised if we miss the playoffs or make it and get bounced in the first round...
FALSE
NY is a baseball town, followed by NFL, then basketball. The Post/Daily News have more baseball covers then NBA, also baseball dominates sports papers and radio from April to September(most of the time longer, if the Yanks or Mets have a legit WS run, or make serious splashes in the Free Agent market). It may not be huge for us colored folk(baseball is irrelevant as a whole among average blacks), but for the majority of NY Sports fans, baseball trumps basketball.
False again
Most of the top basketball prospects come out of Texas; North-West, DMV area, or the Mid-West. Outside of Kemba and Lance, what was the last NY kid to really make a splash in the past 7 years? Oh wait, I thought so. Up until the Melo trade, the average NY'er wasn't even messing w/ the Knicks in the past decade. Sure the Knicks had top(or close to top) profits, but that's because of the market; celebs coming to MSG, suit-and-tie dudes getting tickets as gifts, and having the highest or close to highest most pricey tickets.
Once again False
Listen to WFAN; dudes at work or at school, and most fans don't know what the hell they're talking about. A good # of fans, will say non-sense like the Knicks are a championship contender; Amare was better than Bosh in the 2010 summer, Lin was a franchise player during his run in February. The Knicks like most of NY sports fans(hell sports fans as a whole) typically don't know what the hell they're talking about.
C'mon son cut it out... If u from NYC.. You play basketball.. I dont know where u are from.. But im from NEW YORK.. And in New York.. Everybody plays basketball.. More so then any other sport.. Whether or not we have somebody from NY playing today that is making an impact has no bearing on NY being a Basketball Town.. Secondly... That also does not take away from the impact NY has had on the game as whole especially in the early days.. When the ABA was still around..
Secondly.. Listening to WFAN or ESPN Radio aint gonna give you an idea of the knowledge of a city with 10 million people.. Niggaz aint got time to be calling into these radio shows and waiting on hold for an hour just to talk for 30 seconds.. Again cmon son cut it out..
And last year.. Amare was a fuckin MVP candidate. How the hell was he not better then Chris Bosh?.. What are you talking about?... Niggaz just hate NY so much they gotta come in n talk bullshit cuz they think it sounds good..
Anybody from NY will tell you.. We dont play baseball or football like that.. We play BASKETBALL...
EmM HoLLa.;4220341 said:C'mon son cut it out... If u from NYC.. You play basketball.. I dont know where u are from.. But im from NEW YORK.. And in New York.. Everybody plays basketball.. More so then any other sport.. Whether or not we have somebody from NY playing today that is making an impact has no bearing on NY being a Basketball Town.. Secondly... That also does not take away from the impact NY has had on the game as whole especially in the early days.. When the ABA was still around..
Secondly.. Listening to WFAN or ESPN Radio aint gonna give you an idea of the knowledge of a city with 10 million people.. Niggaz aint got time to be calling into these radio shows and waiting on hold for an hour just to talk for 30 seconds.. Again cmon son cut it out..
And last year.. Amare was a fuckin MVP candidate. How the hell was he not better then Chris Bosh?.. What are you talking about?... Niggaz just hate NY so much they gotta come in n talk bullshit cuz they think it sounds good..
Anybody from NY will tell you.. We dont play baseball or football like that.. We play BASKETBALL...
greenwood1921;4220363 said:matt- said:Don't forget the team actually selling shirts that remind their fans just how long it's been since they won a title and charging $20 to remind them how they have rarely come close since then
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Must be for sale in the CS gift shop.
matt- said:greenwood1921;4220363 said:matt- said:Don't forget the team actually selling shirts that remind their fans just how long it's been since they won a title and charging $20 to remind them how they have rarely come close since then
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Must be for sale in the CS gift shop.
yep. Along with these for all the knick fans
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matt-;4220442 said:greenwood1921;4220363 said:matt- said:Don't forget the team actually selling shirts that remind their fans just how long it's been since they won a title and charging $20 to remind them how they have rarely come close since then
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Must be for sale in the CS gift shop.
yep. Along with these for all the knick fans
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EmM HoLLa.;4221071 said:Cosmic_Cannon;4220424 said:EmM HoLLa.;4220341 said:C'mon son cut it out... If u from NYC.. You play basketball.. I dont know where u are from.. But im from NEW YORK.. And in New York.. Everybody plays basketball.. More so then any other sport.. Whether or not
we have somebody from NY playing today that is making an impact has no bearing on NY being a Basketball Town.. Secondly... That also does not take away from the impact NY has had on the game as whole especially in the early days.. When the ABA was still around..
Secondly.. Listening to WFAN or ESPN Radio aint gonna give you an idea of the knowledge of a city with 10 million people.. Niggaz aint got time to be calling into these radio shows and waiting on hold for an hour just to talk for 30 seconds.. Again cmon son cut it out..
And last year.. Amare was a fuckin MVP candidate. How the hell was he not better then Chris Bosh?.. What are you talking about?... Niggaz just hate NY so much they gotta come in n talk bullshit cuz they think it sounds good..
Anybody from NY will tell you.. We dont play baseball or football like that.. We play BASKETBALL...
So the sport that's played the most in the area= what sports city it is?
Basketball is played everywhere bruh, it's a cheap and easy game to pick up, so that doesn't make NY a basketball town. I'm talking about in terms of overall revenue and discussion, NBA and MLB>>>>basketball in NY. If we were to go by your rules, that means basketball is the most popular sport in America, which is clearly not the case(once again I'm talking about revenue and discussion).
Yes, NYC has had an impact on the game. However it's absurd to say NY is the Mecca of B-Ball, when so many other areas have had an great impact of the game, whether nationally or internationally. Springfield, where the game was conceived, and LA as well as others can be attributed to the current state of basketball.
Just from your comment on the radio point, I can clearly see that you're not taking account for the majority of NY'ers. Obviously WFAN and ESPN don't have every resident on, but they have people from every race and creed, while your just basing your opinion on you and whom you associate with(niggas don't have time for radio, right em?). I brought up The Daily News/Post point about back-page covers, which you carefully dodge around.
I said people saw Amare was better than Bosh in the 2010 SUMMER, summer is a lot different from the 2010 season. Last time I checked, there are no NBA games in the summer(NBA Finals end in mid-June, and summer doesn't start til June 20-ish), and it's the off-season. Yes Amare was a MVP canidate, but I wasn't talking about the season, I was talking about the off-season.
Okay we do play basketball, but in terms of overall revenue and discussion, MLB or NFL>>>basketball.
You are obviously missing my whole Point..
In terms of revenue MLB and NFL rain supreme because
1. NFL stadiums pack 100k+ and MLB plays over 100 regular season games..
2. As far as discussion.. I think that is very very very debatable.. Look at NBA lockout coverage vs. NFL lockout coverage. I think they both got the same media attention.. The NBA probably got more IMO.
3. As far as summer 2010.. I always felt Amar'e was better than Bosh.. Bosh doesnt have the personality to make in NY.. Cryin in the locker room?.. Cmon son New York would eat that man alive.. Look what they are trying to do to Melo a man that has been playing hurt damn near all year.. I stand by my statement.. A 100% Healthy Amare Stoudemire.. With his explosiveness and everything shits on Chris Bosh.. Point Blank Period..
Now look man.. All im saying is this.. You going by revenue and discussion.. Im going by what I know.. The only reason the Knicks havent been discussed as much is because for the last decade they stunk.. But when the Knicks are winning in NY there is nothing like it.. When there are Big Games in the Garden you can feel the electricity in the building.. And despite what they want you to believe.. It isnt the building.. Its the People.. The people make that building.. People who know basketball.. People who love basketball..
If an when the Knicks win a ship.. Niggaz is gonna riot.. It aint gonna be all cool like when the Giants and Yankees win im tellin you...
Cosmic_Cannon;4220424 said:EmM HoLLa.;4220341 said:C'mon son cut it out... If u from NYC.. You play basketball.. I dont know where u are from.. But im from NEW YORK.. And in New York.. Everybody plays basketball.. More so then any other sport.. Whether or not we have somebody from NY playing today that is making an impact has no bearing on NY being a Basketball Town.. Secondly... That also does not take away from the impact NY has had on the game as whole especially in the early days.. When the ABA was still around..
Secondly.. Listening to WFAN or ESPN Radio aint gonna give you an idea of the knowledge of a city with 10 million people.. Niggaz aint got time to be calling into these radio shows and waiting on hold for an hour just to talk for 30 seconds.. Again cmon son cut it out..
And last year.. Amare was a fuckin MVP candidate. How the hell was he not better then Chris Bosh?.. What are you talking about?... Niggaz just hate NY so much they gotta come in n talk bullshit cuz they think it sounds good..
Anybody from NY will tell you.. We dont play baseball or football like that.. We play BASKETBALL...
So the sport that's played the most in the area= what sports city it is?
Basketball is played everywhere bruh, it's a cheap and easy game to pick up, so that doesn't make NY a basketball town. I'm talking about in terms of overall revenue and discussion, NBA and MLB>>>>basketball in NY. If we were to go by your rules, that means basketball is the most popular sport in America, which is clearly not the case(once again I'm talking about revenue and discussion).
Yes, NYC has had an impact on the game. However it's absurd to say NY is the Mecca of B-Ball, when so many other areas have had an great impact of the game, whether nationally or internationally. Springfield, where the game was conceived, and LA as well as others can be attributed to the current state of basketball.
Just from your comment on the radio point, I can clearly see that you're not taking account for the majority of NY'ers. Obviously WFAN and ESPN don't have every resident on, but they have people from every race and creed, while your just basing your opinion on you and whom you associate with(niggas don't have time for radio, right em?). I brought up The Daily News/Post point about back-page covers, which you carefully dodge around.
I said people saw Amare was better than Bosh in the 2010 SUMMER, summer is a lot different from the 2010 season. Last time I checked, there are no NBA games in the summer(NBA Finals end in mid-June, and summer doesn't start til June 20-ish), and it's the off-season. Yes Amare was a MVP canidate, but I wasn't talking about the season, I was talking about the off-season.
Okay we do play basketball, but in terms of overall revenue and discussion, MLB or NFL>>>basketball.
EmM HoLLa.;4221071 said:You are obviously missing my whole Point..
In terms of revenue MLB and NFL rain supreme because
1. NFL stadiums pack 100k+ and MLB plays over 100 regular season games..
2. As far as discussion.. I think that is very very very debatable.. Look at NBA lockout coverage vs. NFL lockout coverage. I think they both got the same media attention.. The NBA probably got more IMO.
3. As far as summer 2010.. I always felt Amar'e was better than Bosh.. Bosh doesnt have the personality to make in NY.. Cryin in the locker room?.. Cmon son New York would eat that man alive.. Look what they are trying to do to Melo a man that has been playing hurt damn near all year.. I stand by my statement.. A 100% Healthy Amare Stoudemire.. With his explosiveness and everything shits on Chris Bosh.. Point Blank Period..
Now look man.. All im saying is this.. You going by revenue and discussion.. Im going by what I know.. The only reason the Knicks havent been discussed as much is because for the last decade they stunk.. But when the Knicks are winning in NY there is nothing like it.. When there are Big Games in the Garden you can feel the electricity in the building.. And despite what they want you to believe.. It isnt the building.. Its the People.. The people make that building.. People who know basketball.. People who love basketball.. If an when the Knicks win a ship.. Niggaz is gonna riot.. It aint gonna be all cool like when the Giants and Yankees win im tellin you...
Mad Jack;4221411 said:At least NY still got their team.I don't even have the displeasure of having the Bullets/Wizards.The Knicks did make the post season last year,the Orioles have not made that shit since I can't remember.