10 Hard Truths Black People Try to Avoid

[Mr.Forte]

GOAT THREAD, major respect.

 

[NostalgiaBAB]

The idea that rap is contributing to violent crime hinges on the notion that people are committing violent crime so they can have enough street cred to rap about committing violent crime. It also ignores the trend in which violent crime has fallen during the heyday of gangsta rap.

Poverty, drugs and culture are much bigger factors than music. Gangsta rap wouldn't exist if the culture wasn't already there. For the most part, it just laid that culture out in the open.

Think about how ridiculous people sound when they try to blame violent video games for school shootings.

 

[1of1]

Violent crime has gone DOWN since hip-hop started: FACT. LOOK IT UP.

If you think RAP is the cause of problems in the black community then you really have no problem with rap you're just an ignoramus jackass who thinks black people are SO stupid a rapper can influence the socioeconomic, cultural, and spiritual direction of an entire people in less than 40 years. REALLY?!

Has nothing to do with poverty and racism? NAH...must be that Lil Wayne fucking it all up. Every since BLING BLING things just went crazy right LOL

Calm yo happy ass down man.

Nobody said it CAUSED it. It ADDS to an existing problem.

I just used this analogy: Hip hop is like throwin gas in an existing fire. And yall silly mfers on some 'Oh no, its ok. We didnt start the fire'

That's like saying "change gone come" helped piss civil rights legislation and not giving LBJ & Dr. KING credit.

Consider the fact that people make music. Music doesn't make people.

That can't be said anymore. Look at Chicago for instance. I haven't seen a music scene blow up like that since the south rolled in 10 yrs ago. And most of them are young niggas with ties to gangs. And a lot of them see rap as a way to get out. And the realist always float to the top. They put in work on the streets for real knowing that that street cred gonna back them up.

Stop it. Is the problem that they want to rap, or is it the gang culture that runs deeper in Chicago than ANY place in the U.S.A.? They put in work in the street b/c they grew up w/o proper guidance. Their fathers are dead, in prison, or simply horrible fathers who have set a bad example and their mothers are ineffective or unfit.

Their idea of manhood comes from peers and poor examples like OG's who are often bastards who simply reached a certain age w/o dying in the shitty life they live. Life revolves around getting money by any means and asserting yourself violently to get a point across. Carrying guns is normal. Having a criminal record is normal. Etc.

RAP IS NOT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. It is simply a window you MAY be able to peer into to hear about some of the problems that exist.

The deeper issues can be made evident through rap.

If there is a problem it's that many of us more sensible people are entertained by the ignorant nonsense from our people because it rhymes and has a good beat to it, then we go about our lives, ignoring the tragic and pathetic circumstances from which it is borne.

 

[kzzl]

11. Hip hop has done more to hurt, than help, black people.

I say that since the death of Pac, Hip Hop has been manipulated into a machine used against us. That statement isn't to put Pac on any kind of pedestal, it's simply round the time that I started noticing shit. His death and continued success afterwards demonstrated to me how powerful hip hop can truly be. Once something is that powerful, if it's a threat to my establishment, I would want it contained.

I say you take into account everything we know of and suspect of this country's history with racism and control. The pattern is clear as day. Now think about how main stream rap has turned into this stroke fest of guns, bitches, drugs, and faggotry directed at the black community. It is not a coincidence that this is happening and being manufactured IMO. It's not a coincidence that artist got fucked up contracts to abide by. They see those kids on 106 & Park, they know parents just don't understand. Niggas in skinny genes and shiny lips, they know ain't no real man finna emulate that shit. Praising gods, talking at schools, but rapping bout nothing but killing niggas.They know our kids and weak minded people are absorbing that shit.

Pac's postmortem and last days of success showed that if left unchecked, undeterred, and alive a nigga with the right combination could really start some shit... again. Oration was one of the best tools people used to combat racism with in the old days. All you church goers are well aware of how profound and earth moving that person with the mic can feel. Fact of the matter is, if you know it sitting at home... the bitches with drones and secret societies knew it already.

Hip Hop had to be contained before somebody with the real message got on the scene and had what it takes to rally up people to take a stand once more. They learned their lessons well with X and every other person they've killed to weather folks down from fighting back. And rap music is most definitely an effective way for someone of that nature to reach people. Imagine if Malcom X, a nigga with a profound message, had the rhyme skills of your favorite rapper, the beat of your favorite producer, the popularity of Micheal Jackson, with the strong black image Malcolm X conveyed.

If I was in they shoes, I know I wouldn't want no nigga like that popping up on the scene and starting shit. So I know those with the power and control ain't trying to let that shit fly. The son'bitches probably believe in hip hop more than we do.

 

[Lustchyld]

that list ain't saying shit that ain't been said already. Blaming hip-hop for black problems is corny

 

[1of1]

Violent crime has gone DOWN since hip-hop started: FACT. LOOK IT UP.

If you think RAP is the cause of problems in the black community then you really have no problem with rap you're just an ignoramus jackass who thinks black people are SO stupid a rapper can influence the socioeconomic, cultural, and spiritual direction of an entire people in less than 40 years. REALLY?!

Has nothing to do with poverty and racism? NAH...must be that Lil Wayne fucking it all up. Every since BLING BLING things just went crazy right LOL

Calm yo happy ass down man.

Nobody said it CAUSED it. It ADDS to an existing problem.

I just used this analogy: Hip hop is like throwin gas in an existing fire. And yall silly mfers on some 'Oh no, its ok. We didnt start the fire'

That's like saying "change gone come" helped piss civil rights legislation and not giving LBJ & Dr. KING credit.

Consider the fact that people make music. Music doesn't make people.

That can't be said anymore. Look at Chicago for instance. I haven't seen a music scene blow up like that since the south rolled in 10 yrs ago. And most of them are young niggas with ties to gangs. And a lot of them see rap as a way to get out. And the realist always float to the top. They put in work on the streets for real knowing that that street cred gonna back them up.

Stop it. Is the problem that they want to rap, or is it the gang culture that runs deeper in Chicago than ANY place in the U.S.A.? They put in work in the street b/c they grew up w/o proper guidance. Their fathers are dead, in prison, or simply horrible fathers who have set a bad example and their mothers are ineffective or unfit.

Their idea of manhood comes from peers and poor examples like OG's who are often bastards who simply reached a certain age w/o dying in the shitty life they live. Life revolves around getting money by any means and asserting yourself violently to get a point across. Carrying guns is normal. Having a criminal record is normal. Etc.

RAP IS NOT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. It is simply a window you MAY be able to peer into to hear about some of the problems that exist.

The deeper issues can be made evident through rap.

If there is a problem it's that many of us more sensible people are entertained by the ignorant nonsense from our people because it rhymes and has a good beat to it, then we go about our lives, ignoring the tragic and pathetic circumstances from which it is borne.

I never said rap was the root of the problem. Check all my post. I said saying that rap has not affected the youth in a negative way would be false. Look at what the dude did in virginia. Almost killed his friend cuz he wanted to further his rap career. Now that's an extreme case, but even he said it was so he could join the illuminati and have a successful rap career.

It appears as though dumbassness or mental illness has affected this youth.

 

[S2J]

And why is the only focus on violence? Who said thats the only detriment

How about the overall apathy of these nggas? I got a 23yt okd nephew and Its SO cool to not give a fuk w/ these youngins

How about molly bein popular? So shyt bein in every sony didnt hwve ANY affect?

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

and at the end of the day we go back to smoking cigarettes, wasting sperm, and open to other culture trends.

 

[blackrain]

11. Hip hop has done more to hurt, than help, black people.

get this trivial bullshit the fuck out of here...

Black youths look up to rappers. Rappers ain't shit, cept for liars and modern day slaves. There is always a white man making money off of their backs. How is this trivial? Most rap is about guns, drugs, bitches, and materialistic shit no one really needs. This is who they look up too? Explain your side to me.

who's fault is that tho?

and in general there are white men making money off niggaz in other industries, so why single hip-hop out for that?

True. But how many times have you seen a black man in a commercial being a doctor or a lawyer, or business owner. How many prime time tv shows having leading black actors and actresses? When all tv will put on is the trap star with the cash and the bitches how can they not look up to that. All hip hop isn't bad. Just the new shit. You can go around your neighborhood and ask any young black male who they would rather be when they grow up, Jeezy, Rick Ross, TI, them migos fucks, or Idris Elba, childish gambino, Barack Obama. I think we all know where they would lean.

TI is on tv weekly though with his wife and children being a father and husband. Lmao @ rap now only being bad...because the 90's gangster rap super thug era never happened right?

 

[blackrain]

And why is the only focus on violence? Who said thats the only detriment

How about the overall apathy of these nggas? I got a 23yt okd nephew and Its SO cool to not give a fuk w/ these youngins

How about molly bein popular? So shyt bein in every sony didnt hwve ANY affect?

Internet...molly would have been popular had people not talked about in songs just like drugs were popular before people started making songs about them in general....with so many rappers ya'll accuse of being soft and too emotional how can you say that rappers are influencing people to not give a fuck anymore? If they don't give a fuck then they don't. Can't be too emotional but too apathetic all at once.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

This is so wack.

So, if we abolish all hip hop and things get better? Even a little bit?

Lol

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Lol @ Hip-Hop hurting black people. Hip-Hop gives a lot of black people a voice that they would not have otherwise. It's also responsible for making a lot of black people economically sufficient. Think of how many jobs Hip-Hop has created.

If we want to escape and rid ourselves of white oppression, the best way to do it is through unity and wealth. Hip-Hop is only helping that cause.

 

[MzKB]

Gems dropped

and I'm collecting

 

[MzKB]

11. Hip hop has done more to hurt, than help, black people.

Nah son

Hip hop is entertainment

If people can't differentiate between real and fake then they deserve what ever they emulate

 

[cannonspike1994]

12. Black People are far superior to white people.

 

[kzzl]

I feel like many of your have good points, but are side stepping on this issue.

You've got a force of nature that is creating more black millionaires than any other field in AmeriKKKa. The shit isn't owned by us and it isn't controlled by us. All that is done by forces that don't give a fuck about us. Y'all really think, there isn't some kind of method to this madness? Some agenda?

The face of it is no longer the Public Enemy's, the Talib Kweli's and Dee-1's of the game. It's a bunch of wannabe drug king pins and bleached booty hoes that are at the fore front of it. And that audio and visual imagery is just as dangerous as every slave movie and every ratchet house hoe on reality tv. Even if YOU are the best parent in the world, there are still others... too damn many of us.... that don't have that luxury. Hip Hop is a heavy part of the black community, that is almost an inescapable fact. And it will be an even greater part of the lives of the less fortunate, those who need help the most.

Too under estimate it's influence and the price niggas put on it, and themselves, will prove to be a very regretful oversight for us.

 

[Darth Sidious]

Violent crime has gone DOWN since hip-hop started: FACT. LOOK IT UP.

If you think RAP is the cause of problems in the black community then you really have no problem with rap you're just an ignoramus jackass who thinks black people are SO stupid a rapper can influence the socioeconomic, cultural, and spiritual direction of an entire people in less than 40 years. REALLY?!

Has nothing to do with poverty and racism? NAH...must be that Lil Wayne fucking it all up. Every since BLING BLING things just went crazy right LOL

Bruh, as awful as it sounds the drop in violent crime has everything to do with the availability of legalized abortions and nothing at all to do with the beautiful and uplifting prose from gangsta rap.

This has been well studied and documented not only in the US but in other countries where abortion was made legal and available. It's a good thing for women and society.

THE IMPACT OF LEGALIZED ABORTION ON CRIME*

JOHN J. DONOHUE III AND STEVEN D. LEVITT
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf
http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

 

[MasterJayN100]

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