Top 5 all-time NBA players by position: ultimate debate

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what you mean lost in the shuffle nigga not even in the deck there are tons of players that had alot of promise.. hes just another one of those guys..

Almost are we really going on almost no one is denying his greatness at all but.. You cant judge a persons effectiveness in respects to teamsucess and place in a sport on ALMOST
 
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playmaker88;3477971 said:
Brandon Roy years down the line seriously.. lol i hate these list..

Ai is ranked way to high. and at this point lebron is rated a lil high

what did Ai do though besides braids 30 pts and a nasty crossover

Among guards AI is 6th ALLTIME in scoring, and 9th in steals among all players, and played less years than those listed ahead of him. He took a team with Eric Snow, George Lynch, and Tyrone Hill as starters to the NBA Finals....all that was just braids and a crossover?
 
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T. Sanford;3474664 said:
I'll put Hakeem as number 1 center

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Mvpbrodie93;3474701 said:
C-Hakeem

PF-Tim Duncan

SF-Larry Bird

SG-MJ

PG-Magic

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Ibex;3478755 said:
Among guards AI is 6th ALLTIME in scoring, and 9th in steals among all players, and played less years than those listed ahead of him. He took a team with Eric Snow, George Lynch, and Tyrone Hill as starters to the NBA Finals....all that was just braids and a crossover?

What did Ai do on more talented teams ? like i said i dont like ai. but he wasnt the answer
 
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playmaker88;3477971 said:
Brandon Roy years down the line seriously.. lol i hate these list..

Ai is ranked way to high. and at this point lebron is rated a lil high

what did Ai do though besides braids 30 pts and a nasty crossover

no this nigga didnt just question AI's legacy
 
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Truth Writer;3473962 said:
Here's what I got...in order:

Point Guard - Earvin "Magic" Johnson, "The Big O" Oscar Robinson, Isaiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, John Stockton

Shooting Guard - Michael "Air" Jordan, "The Black Mamba" Kobe Bryant, "The Logo" Jerry West, DWade>>>>>> "Jesus Shuttlesworth" Ray Allen, "Miller Time" Reggie Miller

Small Foward - "Larry Legend/The Birdman" Larry Bird, "Dr. J" Julius Erving, Scottie Pippen, LeBron "King" James, Paul "The Truth" Pierce isnt in the TOP 5 still great tho there just been alot of great Sfs

Power Forward - Tim Duncan, "The Mailman" Karl Malone, "Sir" Charles Barkley, "The Big Ticket" Kevin Garnett, Dennis Rodamn >>>>>Dirk Nowitsky

Center - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (A.K.A. Lew Alcindor), Bill Russell, "The Diesel" Shaquille O'Neal, Wilt "The Stilt" Chamberlain, Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon

Any takers to prove this list wrong?

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When I saw Ray Allen on the list i spat out my fruit loops.He isn't even top 5 Celtic player
 
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MrJR;3479932 said:
When I saw Ray Allen on the list i spat out my fruit loops.He isn't even top 5 Celtic player

That probably has more to do with the fact that he only been there for 4 years
 
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If we talking pure basketball players and not based on position, A.I. is one of the best to ever do it
 
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ya niggas need to allow niggas to play out their careers... crowning niggas before shit is all said and done or at the very least close to being over
 
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almighty breeze;3477947 said:
Center:
Wilt Chamberlain (#2 Cverall)
Kareem Abdul-Jabaar (#3 Overall)
Bill Russell (#6 Overall no coincidence)
Hakeem Olujawon (#9 Overall)
Shaquille O'Neal (#10 Overall)

Power Forward:
Tim Duncan (#7 Overall)
Charles Barkley (#16 Overall)
Karl Malone (#18 Overall)
Kevin Garnett (#20 Overall)
Dennis Rodman (#27 Overall)

Small Forward:
Larry Bird (#5 Overall)
Oscar Robertson (#8 Overall) no clue what position he qualifies for SF/SG/PG so ill put him in each
Julius Erving (#15 Overall)
LeBron James (#19 Overall)
Scottie Pippen (#21 Overall)
Elgin Baylor

Shooting Guard:
Michael Jordan (#1 Overall)
Oscar Robertson (#8 Overall)
Kobe Bryant (#13 Overall)
Allen Iverson (#14 Overall)
Dwayne Wade (#26 Overall)
*Clyde Drexler (#22 Overall)*

Point Guard:
Magic Johnson (#4 Overall)
Oscar Robertson (#8 Overall)
Isiah Thomas (#17 Overall)
Jerry West (#12 Overall)
Jason Kidd (#23 Overall)
*John Stockton (#28 Overall)*

Puts list in a little more perspective. i have moses at 11 overall but not top 5 centers. The same thing will happen 20 years from now for guys like Miller,Allen, Brandon Roy etc. log jams thru eras at certain position

Tim Dunacan above Hakeem?
 
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Niggas disrespecting Barkley smh... Barkley, Rodman, Karl, Timmy, and Elvin Hayes and honorable mention to both Kevins McHale and Garnett
 
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c1up;3480546 said:
ya niggas need to allow niggas to play out their careers... crowning niggas before shit is all said and done or at the very least close to being over

Say it again.
 
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Throwed Off Axel;3477474 said:
lol @ u gettin salty wit the name callin and still ignoring the fact that u made urself look stupid as fuck by misreading my Wade quote. Now onto the bolded Drexler was a 2 guard so no, Bernard King's career was cut short by injuries, Only thing Alex English did was score better then Pierce but a better overall player nah nigga when Pierce's career is over he'll have more of an impact then English, Baylor was a better scorer then Pierce thats it, same wit Barry and Gervin and Nique wat else could these niggaz do, quite frankly iont give a fuck about stats before the 80's defenses weren't as complex so once again for the abundance of Pierce haters he's a top 5 Small forward of all-time stop lettin the over dramatic injuries blind you from his greatness
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1990-91 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1992-93 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1993-94 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

Bernard King was better than pierce. Even with a shortened career he was better. Nigga got 2 rings and 2 NBA Finals MVPs. One of those he got while playing hurt. Pierce averaged 2 ppg more while King was a way better rebounder.

Paul Pierce isnt even top 10. He's got 3 all nba 3RD team appearances and 1 2nd team appearance. He got his ring being anchored by the greatest shooter of all time and a top 5 defensive post player. FOH nigga. He aint ever been top 5 in the NBA at any point in his career. It aint possible to be top5 all time. His accolades dont even compare to what i posted
 
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garv;3480595 said:
Tim Dunacan above Hakeem?

Hard to do. But being completely objective Duncan is criminally slept on b/c of his lack of personality and the quietness with which he dominated. But the dude was a machine. it actually stings a little to see him wear down. He was more consistent and accomplished more than Hakeem so it had to be done.
 
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playmaker88;3478256 said:
what you mean lost in the shuffle nigga not even in the deck there are tons of players that had alot of promise.. hes just another one of those guys..

Almost are we really going on almost no one is denying his greatness at all but.. You cant judge a persons effectiveness in respects to teamsucess and place in a sport on ALMOST

you're missing the point man lol all time Roy isnt even in the store that deck is in. yes, but for this era (lets say post dress code) hes one of the top shooting guards. Same as Richmond in the 90s or King in the 80s but history will shuffle him out the deck.

i only said the 'almost' as a microcosom of his career,influence and accomplishments b/c i literally said that im not running down his resume. This isnt Bob Cousy or George Mursean im talkin about. You can run AI stats. watch his highlights. see his impact. view and compare his competition. it almost literally just happened before our eyes. i shouldnt have to do much convincing
 
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truth writer;3473962 said:
here's what i got...in order:

point guard - earvin "magic" johnson, "the big o" oscar robinson, isaiah thomas, jason kidd, john stockton

shooting guard - michael "air" jordan, "the black mamba" kobe bryant, "the logo" jerry west, "jesus shuttlesworth" ray allen, "miller time" reggie miller

small foward - "larry legend/the birdman" larry bird, "dr. J" julius erving, scottie pippen, lebron "king" james, paul "the truth" pierce

power forward - tim duncan, "the mailman" karl malone, "sir" charles barkley, "the big ticket" kevin garnett, dirk nowitsky

center - kareem abdul-jabbar (a.k.a. Lew alcindor), bill russell, "the diesel" shaquille o'neal, wilt "the stilt" chamberlain, hakeem "the dream" olajuwon

any takers to prove this list wrong?

my all times list

pg - magic johnson, isiah thomas, oscar roberson, bob cousy, john stockton

sg - michael jordan, kobe bryant, jerry west, allen iverson, george garvin

sf - larry bird, julius erving, lebron james, rick barry, eligin baylor

pf - sir charles barkley, tim ducan, karl malone, kevin garnett, bob pettit

c - wilt chamberlin, bill russell, karrem abdul jabbar, hakeem olajuwon, shaq disel
 
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Some of y'all are the silliest mafuckas ever.

1st off, half of y'all don't even know what position players played. If you can't figure that out, just stop posting in here.

2nd, The ONLY consideration for change I'd give is swapping A.I. for Reggie. Non-basketball watching niggas. Acting like Ray Allen all of a sudden starting hooping when he came to Boston. Nevermind holding Milwaukee down, and Seattle. That dude has been consistent like shit for 15+ years...AND he got a ring (which should be 2). FOH with discrediting Shuttlesworth.

3rd, Pierce has proven himself to be a top 5 SMALL FOWARD, yes. FOH with Nique. Nique = Shawn Kemp. Powerful, creative-ass dunks, but that's IT. Look at the stats...and his playoff record. That series in the 2nd round vs. the Celtics was the furthest he EVER got...as the #1 option in ATL. Pierce had Boston in the EC Finals LONG before KG and Jesus showed up (2002, lost to the Nets) and was doing with teammates like Antoine Walker, who was jacking up 4-pointers every damn night.

...and the most blasphemous thing I've heard on here: this Rodman>>>Barkley bullshit.

I swear to God and Buddah, some of y'all just dickride underdogs, plain and simple. Barkley had rebounding titles too, early in his career, but the difference between him and Rodman is that he was THE focal on TWO teams, both going to the playoffs, one reaching the NBA Finals. Rodman was the nigga that put in all the dirty-ass work under the boards. Yes, I give him credit for that, but what GM in their right mind would make him a centerpiece of a championship-caliber team? Barkley's was already named Top 50 of all time even BEFORE he retired. Fuck y'all out here piffin on, seriously?

The nevre of niggas in here actin like MJ didn't win rings before Dennis got to the Chi...or that he was a key piece in the Badboys gettin theirs.
 
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