Yeshua aka Jesus The Christ Son of God discussion thread...

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SoulRattler of Venom;75387 said:
You're welcome? smh @ folks these days

thank you for what you didn't TELL me how to do it which is what I asked for but you did attempt to patronize me smh @ folks these days
 
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BiblicalAtheist;75811 said:
Only God knows the time for the end of this system of things, not even Jesus Christ knows, this is what separates God and Son.

As well as God being free from temptation, capable to defend himself from any and all persecuters, free from any needs such as food, water, prayer...oh and the biggest thing JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD!

I think those are all pretty big things that separate them.
 
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supaman4321;77004 said:
As well as God being free from temptation, capable to defend himself from any and all persecuters, free from any needs such as food, water, prayer...oh and the biggest thing JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD!

I think those are all pretty big things that separate them.

However, according to the Bible, Jesus has said on occassion that if you have seen him, you have seen the Father; that the Father and himself are one.
 
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alissowack;80525 said:
However, according to the Bible, Jesus has said on occassion that if you have seen him, you have seen the Father; that the Father and himself are one.

Jesus was "one" with everything and everyone.
 
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supaman4321;77002 said:
thank you for what you didn't TELL me how to do it which is what I asked for but you did attempt to patronize me smh @ folks these days

Is it my fault that you're computer illiterate? Just appreciate that I embedded the video for you and move on. It's not like anyone's going to sit through that entire clip anyway.
 
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BiblicalAtheist;80986 said:
Jesus was "one" with everything and everyone.

I believe that this oneness is more relational; more...personal; that it is something that just can't be shared by anybody and anything, otherwise we all would be born into it. There wouldn't be a need to say what we believe if we are "Christians" by default. The verse saying that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life wouldn't have much relevence(it may not even have any relevence now).
 
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alissowack;81985 said:
I believe that this oneness is more relational; more...personal; that it is something that just can't be shared by anybody and anything, otherwise we all would be born into it. There wouldn't be a need to say what we believe if we are "Christians" by default. The verse saying that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life wouldn't have much relevence(it may not even have any relevence now).

We are all born into it, but we are trained out of it. Your name, my name. Your toys, my stuff. Your your your your, mine mine mine, theirs theirs their. Kids right from birth are taught to seperate and catergorize everything. Before a certain age children don't even recognize themselves in a mirror. This is one of the ways I think we are born into a world of error(sin). To say "christians by default" is silly. Oneness has no-thing to do with "christianity" or christians for that matter. Claiming you are christian is just another label, another segregator. What/who was jesus? What was his way? What was his truth? And what did his life consist of? He was 100% aware:100% truth, his way was forgiveness, and his life was compassion. That IS the way, the truth and the life. And it was very relevant thousands of years ago and ever more relevant now. If humans raised their children under those three principles: awareness, forvigeness, and compassion people would be more 'one' with everything. With awareness alone, comes oneness. With awareness comes forgiveness, and so to compasison. It is impossible that it not come together like this.
 
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alissowack;80525 said:
However, according to the Bible, Jesus has said on occassion that if you have seen him, you have seen the Father; that the Father and himself are one.

much in the same way that if you saw Moses you saw God or Noah, or David or any of the other prophet's because all prophets are a sign from the Creator and they are one in purpose not in essence i'm pretty sure the sentence right before that Jesus says that his Father is greater than all so how can they be one in the same if his Father is greater than him at the same time?
 
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BiblicalAtheist;84205 said:
We are all born into it, but we are trained out of it. Your name, my name. Your toys, my stuff. Your your your your, mine mine mine, theirs theirs their. Kids right from birth are taught to seperate and catergorize everything. Before a certain age children don't even recognize themselves in a mirror. This is one of the ways I think we are born into a world of error(sin). To say "christians by default" is silly. Oneness has no-thing to do with "christianity" or christians for that matter. Claiming you are christian is just another label, another segregator. What/who was jesus? What was his way? What was his truth? And what did his life consist of? He was 100% aware:100% truth, his way was forgiveness, and his life was compassion. That IS the way, the truth and the life. And it was very relevant thousands of years ago and ever more relevant now. If humans raised their children under those three principles: awareness, forvigeness, and compassion people would be more 'one' with everything. With awareness alone, comes oneness. With awareness comes forgiveness, and so to compasison. It is impossible that it not come together like this.

Being morally good doesn't get rid of sin. It's a nice gesture to teach morals, but it can't earn God's favor. It is just about morals, then virtually all religions teach it. The Pharisees were people of the law and Jesus in effect said it was not enough.
 
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supaman4321;84815 said:
much in the same way that if you saw Moses you saw God or Noah, or David or any of the other prophet's because all prophets are a sign from the Creator and they are one in purpose not in essence i'm pretty sure the sentence right before that Jesus says that his Father is greater than all so how can they be one in the same if his Father is greater than him at the same time?

However, did Moses or David ever made this claim of being one with the Father? To make the statements that Jesus made was unheard of in Biblical history. For you see me post, "I am one with God" would stir up some controversy among the Christian community.
 
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alissowack;85070 said:
Being morally good doesn't get rid of sin. It's a nice gesture to teach morals, but it can't earn God's favor. It is just about morals, then virtually all religions teach it. The Pharisees were people of the law and Jesus in effect said it was not enough.

What does that have to do with what I said?
 
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‘Jesus’ is not the Supreme ‘g-d’. However, according to the ‘bible’, ‘Jesus’ is “the firstborn of every creature,” which means, ‘he’ was the Supreme g-d's first original creation. Read [Rev. 3:14; Col. 1:15-17]
 
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BiblicalAtheist;85182 said:
What does that have to do with what I said?

Part of that singled out the part when you was saying if parents taught awareness...etc. However, at the same time I was trying to say that sin is still an issue that only Jesus is said to have dealt with it. The Bible say all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; that no one is righteous.
 
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supaman4321;84815 said:
much in the same way that if you saw Moses you saw God or Noah, or David or any of the other prophet's because all prophets are a sign from the Creator and they are one in purpose not in essence i'm pretty sure the sentence right before that Jesus says that his Father is greater than all so how can they be one in the same if his Father is greater than him at the same time?

co-sign........................
 
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alissowack;85423 said:
1. Part of that singled out the part when you was saying if parents taught awareness...etc.

2. However, at the same time I was trying to say that sin is still an issue that only Jesus is said to have dealt with it. The Bible say all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God; that no one is righteous.

Alrighty then.
 
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blue falcon;92394 said:
synopsis I'm not watching 48 minutes of non-sense.

then your purpose of coming into the thread and commenting was what exactly? Once again how is it non-sense in lies when he pointing out clear logical fallacies in your own "inerrant word of god"
 
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