Yeshua aka Jesus The Christ Son of God discussion thread...

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judah7;3186080 said:
These scriptures also show that Jesus would have to be God in the flesh.

Isaiah 7:14

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

(Immanuel means "God with Us")

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

The scripture below is calling Jesus the EVERLASTING FATHER and MIGHTY GOD. If Jesus was not God then why are they calling him EVERLASTING FATHER?

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

All right my christian brother
 
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blue falcon;26395 said:
It seems the Hebrew Israelites are at it again with their bad bible readings (and the sad part is they use the King James Bible)and and 1/2 truths so we have to go back to the word to show what they are saying is false. There are a few proof texts they use to show that Jesus was black but I think this one is the most prevalant.

1. He had feet of brass - This is not only a lie but it's just lazy reading. Lets look at what the bible says

Revelation 1:15(King James Version)

15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Here we see that this isn't talking about brass but rather brass thats in a furnace burning. Brass burns white. This whole thing will become more apparent as we move on.

2. He had hair of wool - This again is simply lazy reading. The bible says

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

It doesn't say His hear was like wool but rather that its WHITE LIKE WOOL.

This entire vision of Jesus is of Jesus on earth but in Heaven in His full glorified state. To put it simply verse 16 says

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

I don't know about you but I've never seen the sun shine black. This can be related to Jesus in Matthew 17:2 and Mark 9:2

Lets read from Matthew

Matthew 17:1-2 (King James Version)

Matthew 17

1And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

and now Mark 9

Mark 9:1-3 (King James Version)

Mark 9

1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.

2And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

Jesus in His glorified form is blindingly bright and brilliant. Not black.

As for what color Jesus is or what color you are what does the bible say............IT DOESN'T. And it doesn't MATTER.

There are only 2 colors that matter Red and White.

Isaiah 1:17-19 (King James Version)

17Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Seek the Lord while He maybe found.

No offence but hiz name is PROPERLY spelled/pronounced "Yahshua" not "Yeshua" anywayz GOOD THREAD!!!
 
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You're post backfires on you on a couple points.

Isaac(a.s.) was not Abraham's(a.s.) only son Ishmail(a.s.) was born before him even according to your scripture i'm pretty sure.

Even keeping Isaac as the focal point, did Abraham kill him and he was resurrected after three days and nights like many Christians attribute to Jesus(a.s.) no he was SAVED by God before his death which is EXACTLY what the All-Knowing says took place the Qur'an.

So yes, I guess it was a pre-cursor just not how you thought subhanAllah
 
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