Yeezus Kardashian Album Thread (6.18)

[haute]

real shit, i like it...but i completely and totally understand why niggas wouldnt.

word the soul/punk samples arent as disastrous as people make it to be

still far from his best work

better than 808's slightly better than MBDTF

6/10 overall

Better than MBDTF in terms of what?

MBDTF was nothing but weak ass apology for making a white girl cry on stage

portraying himself as some tortured artist when he never was and never will be that

was that album horrible? no

but I didnt care for it

much like Yeezus

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

And nobody caught on to Cudi & Kanye singing love ballads to each other on Guilt Trip?

"If you love me so much then why you let me go?"

Niggas actin like little kids now ... Lol

You legit don't find it ironic that Kid Cudi just left the label less than a month of two ago and he's on the album singing "if you love some me so much then why you let me go."

Obviously I was making joke of it... but if you don't see the irony in that then Yeezus' holy scepter is further down you guys throats than I thought.

Nigga NoHomo at this post.... Why the fuck would I be thinking about two dude singing a love ballad "to each other" on a song clearly about bitches ...

 

[Already Home_17]

the sample that played in the middle of on sight shoulda been made into a song of its own

 

[freshb651]

this shit was horrible,Bound sounds "kinda" decent is that a Jackson 5 sample ?

this nigga gone off bath salt,and he got 10 tracks tryna be like Illmatic.

Barkley:"Nas is rolling over in his grave"

Kenny the Jet:"Nas isn't dead yet"

Barkley:"He will be after he hears this wack ass album"

Shaq:*Laughs*, "Underdog put that on a t-shirt !"

 

[georgia boi]

I wonder how you niggas would have received all of these "hipster" "white people" reviews had them shits been negative ...lol .... The bias is too easy to read in some of y'all's post ... All you gotta say is ..that's coo they think such n such ... I don't agree ... And leave it at that..But niggas gotta go all out of their way to find some cop out excuse or rationalization as to why the albums getting good reviews .... That makes niggas arguments seem mad desperate and as if you gotta grasp for straws since you don't have any confidence in your own opinions..

This is kind of a contradiction. You responded to me because I was saying that a mock up review was overblown, yet you are trying to dictate how people are negatively responding to the album.

The bolded statement could also apply to people who think positively of the album. There's post in here disagreeing with people who don't think so positively of the album. Instead of saying "I disagree", they are posting reviews to negate the statement. It's the exact same thing that you are speaking against. They are passing off reviews (professional opinions, but still an opinion) as fact.

People who like the album are also going out of their way to rationalize why people don't like the album.

It's a contradiction? Why? How am I trying to dictate what people think? Because I'm questioning their logic and rationale? That's normal adult shit bruh ...if you have your thoughts together coherently it shouldnt be a big deal ...it's not about trying to change anyone's mind ...it's simply about me seeing what made them get to their destination... Are people even thinking before typing or are they just emotionally and irrationally ranting .. I'm trying to have decent discourse ...but you can tell when a persons argument starts to fall apart or dosent make sense tht they're just ranting and not thinking ...which is funny

Who's passing off critics reviews as empirical facts? Lol ...the only fact about a reviewers write up is that it's an opinion ... The reason I posted those reviews was to simply show that other people liked the album and its not crazy to think the shit is good like some individuals on here were trying to frame shit ... To be honest I ain't read nan one of them shits ... I just knew that by posting them I would be able to see who the emotional incoherent people were(@stew @bawse..etc) and who the logical and reasonable people

Were ...personally and I'm not speaking for anyone else .. A review shouldn't dictate how you feel about a piece of music ..I mean as an adult you should be able to make your mind up independently ...their opinions while valuable and useful to the overall discussion (especialy if reputable) are just as much up for questioning as anyone else.. It just should be done in a intelligent and reasoned fashion ..That's why I told you wayyyy back that if you were going to criticize the write up you should do it from a more Objective standpoint because if would give your arguement more validity ..

It's a contradiction because you are doing the same thing you are accusing others of doing. You weren't questioninlogic by saying "All you gotta say is...".

Much of this thread is ranting from both sides. Why not also address that as well? I mean, you have people saying "if you don't listen to this type of music, then you won't like this album". Some are even going as far as categorizing people as "purists" because they don't like it.

For the record, the write up in question was written by me as joke parodying what critics might write about the album. I think that makes me more than qualified to give an accurate critique of it.

I do agree that a review shouldn't dictate whether or not a person likes something. Reviews work best for someone who hasn't heard an album (even then they should be taken with a grain of salt). Objectivity is kind of wasted though because whether we admit it or not, we all bring our own biases into these discussions. Even the professional reviews wasted no time in reviewing the album. Some probably already had their minds made up at the listening sessions. Others probably had already decided to rate it high or low simply because it's a Kanye album.

 

[Lebong James]

"have u ever asked your bitch for other bitches?"

 

[Baw$3$mok3.JR]

the sample that played in the middle of on sight shoulda been made into a song of its own

>>>≥>>>Yeezus.

That nigga Kanye, needs to go to Haiti or West Africa to talk to his mom

 

[Stew]

@georgia boi I warned u bout that nigga bout 8 pages ago lol

 

[DarthRozay]

I was playing Kanye's album at my crib and three UFO's crashed in my back yard.

I was playing Jay's album and now 3 camels are grazing in my back yard

 

[SheerExcellence]

Yeezus saved my life

 

[ohhhla]

I was playing Kanye's album at my crib and three UFO's crashed in my back yard.

I was playing Jay's album and now 3 camels are grazing in my back yard

Well-played, LOL.

 

[SheerExcellence]

Yeezus gonna make me stop doing all the foul shit in my life.

Like fucking all yall moms and bitches and sisters doing them dirty.

I won't do them dirty anymore

I am a god

Where the fuck is my croissant

 

[waterproof]

Let me put an end to this shit, All Black Music have soul. House music started off as disco, soul hits being speed up and extended so it can make the party last longer, just like hip-hop

Chicago House music have soul. Industrial music started in the UK by europeans

 

[waterproof]

yeah yeah yeahs!

dont think i ever seen them mentioned on this forum before

were u the person who mentioned niggy tardust?

@sheerexcellence it was bruh that mention Niggy Tardust who is the father of this Yeezus shit but done it much better and used people who know are legends in the that type of music like Trent Razor

 

[Infamous.H_G_C]

Deleting that trash album as we speak!!

 

[waterproof]

if any of y'all like saul williams Niggy tardust, i wonder how you feel about this kanye album

@sHEEREXCELLENCE Niggy tardust was an innovating project that kept it hip-hop and spoken words roots but it moved hip-hop into the future, this album was organic, not forced. Not only he got the Industrial Rock producer who is a legend from Nine Inch Nailz in that music to produce the album but he also kept it hip-hop at the same time moving it foward he also reached back and revisited the spirit of the bombsquad.

Yeezus is not this black revolutionary shit yall claim it is, Niggy Tardust is what Kanye tried to be but he didn't, Niggy Tardust is the black revolutionary shit with a message.

AND SAUL WILLIAMS IS AN EMCEE, and he emcee on this album and is a better emcee, poet, writer then Kanye

Saul Williams (Niggy tardust) - Black History Month


Saul Williams - The Ritual


Saul Williams - Niggy Tardust - Trigger


Raised to be Lowered Saul Williams NiggyTardust


YEEZUS aint fuckin with NIGGY TARDUST

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Deleting that trash album as we speak!!

It hurt my soul to have to delete a ye album because it was garbage felt like daryl when he had to merk merl

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

I was once lost but then yeezus found me.

 

[SheerExcellence]

That niggy stardust is fucking insane. I played it heavy when it first came out. But haven't played for about half a decade. I played it again last night...I can def see how he influenced kanye on this one

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

I wonder how you niggas would have received all of these "hipster" "white people" reviews had them shits been negative ...lol .... The bias is too easy to read in some of y'all's post ... All you gotta say is ..that's coo they think such n such ... I don't agree ... And leave it at that..But niggas gotta go all out of their way to find some cop out excuse or rationalization as to why the albums getting good reviews .... That makes niggas arguments seem mad desperate and as if you gotta grasp for straws since you don't have any confidence in your own opinions..

This is kind of a contradiction. You responded to me because I was saying that a mock up review was overblown, yet you are trying to dictate how people are negatively responding to the album.

The bolded statement could also apply to people who think positively of the album. There's post in here disagreeing with people who don't think so positively of the album. Instead of saying "I disagree", they are posting reviews to negate the statement. It's the exact same thing that you are speaking against. They are passing off reviews (professional opinions, but still an opinion) as fact.

People who like the album are also going out of their way to rationalize why people don't like the album.

It's a contradiction? Why? How am I trying to dictate what people think? Because I'm questioning their logic and rationale? That's normal adult shit bruh ...if you have your thoughts together coherently it shouldnt be a big deal ...it's not about trying to change anyone's mind ...it's simply about me seeing what made them get to their destination... Are people even thinking before typing or are they just emotionally and irrationally ranting .. I'm trying to have decent discourse ...but you can tell when a persons argument starts to fall apart or dosent make sense tht they're just ranting and not thinking ...which is funny

Who's passing off critics reviews as empirical facts? Lol ...the only fact about a reviewers write up is that it's an opinion ... The reason I posted those reviews was to simply show that other people liked the album and its not crazy to think the shit is good like some individuals on here were trying to frame shit ... To be honest I ain't read nan one of them shits ... I just knew that by posting them I would be able to see who the emotional incoherent people were(@stew @bawse..etc) and who the logical and reasonable people

Were ...personally and I'm not speaking for anyone else .. A review shouldn't dictate how you feel about a piece of music ..I mean as an adult you should be able to make your mind up independently ...their opinions while valuable and useful to the overall discussion (especialy if reputable) are just as much up for questioning as anyone else.. It just should be done in a intelligent and reasoned fashion ..That's why I told you wayyyy back that if you were going to criticize the write up you should do it from a more Objective standpoint because if would give your arguement more validity ..

It's a contradiction because you are doing the same thing you are accusing others of doing. You weren't questioninlogic by saying "All you gotta say is...".

Much of this thread is ranting from both sides. Why not also address that as well? I mean, you have people saying "if you don't listen to this type of music, then you won't like this album". Some are even going as far as categorizing people as "purists" because they don't like it.

For the record, the write up in question was written by me as joke parodying what critics might write about the album. I think that makes me more than qualified to give an accurate critique of it.

I do agree that a review shouldn't dictate whether or not a person likes something. Reviews work best for someone who hasn't heard an album (even then they should be taken with a grain of salt). Objectivity is kind of wasted though because whether we admit it or not, we all bring our own biases into these discussions. Even the professional reviews wasted no time in reviewing the album. Some probably already had their minds made up at the listening sessions. Others probably had already decided to rate it high or low simply because it's a Kanye album.

What have I accused others of doing?

The reason I stated all you gotta do is... Blah blah blah ... Was due to the fact that you obviously can't have an open conversation with a "review" in itself certaintly not in the same way you can have dialogue between two people posting giving/taking and exchanging ideas... As I stated before i don't care about individuals disagreeing ... That's normal .. That original comment you quoted me on just addressed posters writing off ALL reviews due to pretty silly things ... And in such vehement fashion ... It seemed pretty clear to meeee ... That these posters veiws weren't well thought out .... Now had I been tryin to "dictate" another's actions I would have said something more abrasive along the lines of "if you disagree with these reviews your stupid" ...and that's not what I was doing ...my critique was very specific I wasn't talking about people critizing the album in general ... I didn't chastise lechic for her opinion as it seemed rather reasoned even tho I disagree

..the only reason I responded to you talking about your cleverly played mock review was due to me disagreeing with the approach/the reasoning behind you saying what you were saying .. Not the fact that it was negative in nature..

I've been all thru this thread ... And for the most part I've seen more ranting come from the negative side I haven't seen this whole "if you don't like _____ kind of music than your not going to like this album" argument brought up in sometime so I didn't feel the need to go out and attack anyone who ha previously said that ... Additionally I don't totally disagree with that train of thought ... I think it's reasonable to assume that if a person hasn't been exposed to a multitude of different musical influences it would be a bit more difficult to appreciate a project that has a multitude of different musical influences ... Now does that mean that evvveryone who listens to different music will like this record on that basis alone? ...well of course not ... But I do believe that having a diverse musical pallet can make this album more easily digestible .. And less obscure ...

And I agree with you to some degree about reviews in general ...I personally only use them to put me up on things I've never heard before ...