WTF is Marion Barry apologizing for saying something thats true

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Dr.Chemix;4453242 said:
Yea...but c'mon yo...black folks rob their own. So truth of the matter is, would it even matter if their were black owned businesses? Black folks would try to hustle the black owned stores, truth be told.

This is understood, but this is also a situation created by impoverished conditions.

I'm not saying Black folks have no culpability, but I am saying is that all this inner finger pointing is bullshit and taking away from the historical context. 50-60 years ago that's all we had were our stores and businesses because Blacks were often cordoned into their own neighborhoods and had to make it do or die.

The type of Black folks people make reference to now is a post crack bomb generation.

Black folks owned stores 20-30 years ago in these same neighborhoods where these arab and asian stores stand. So what happened? What is happening? How do we get in front of it?
 
The_Maryvale_Joker;4453235 said:
Easy solution

Open your own shop or shut the fuck up

Aint nobody stopping us from keeping our money black but us

it's way deeper than that tho

why would the average business owner go thru the unnecessary struggle of opening a business in a black neighborhood when it's easier to do it elsewhere

a business owner with any bit of sense runs his business to make money, not to push a moral agenda

Dr.Chemix;4453242 said:
Yea...but c'mon yo...black folks rob their own. So truth of the matter is, would it even matter if their were black owned businesses? Black folks would try to hustle the black owned stores, truth be told.

^^^real shit............this here is the problem

we have no problem with attempting to victimize or tear down our own

yet we are shocked when we can't progress

some sad shit
 
PublicEnemigo1;4453265 said:
Dr.Chemix;4453242 said:
Yea...but c'mon yo...black folks rob their own. So truth of the matter is, would it even matter if their were black owned businesses? Black folks would try to hustle the black owned stores, truth be told.

This is understood, but this is also a situation created by impoverished conditions.

I'm not saying Black folks have no culpability, but I am saying is that all this inner finger pointing is bullshit and taking away from the historical context. 50-60 years ago that's all we had were our stores and businesses because Blacks were often cordoned into their own neighborhoods and had to make it do or die.

The type of Black folks people make reference to now is a post crack bomb generation.

Black folks owned stores 20-30 years ago in these same neighborhoods where these arab and asian stores stand. So what happened? What is happening? How do we get in front of it?

excellent point PE. Using them noodles, huh? You are right though, what I speak of does concern the post crack bomb generation.

I'm really not sure how to get in front of this my brother. I can point out the problem and configure the solution. It's the acceptance part that fails.

Will it take a genuine re infiltration of the music industry to spark interests in these matters? Back to conscious music and self awareness? I'm definitely open to suggestions.
 
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.
 
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

my nigga....exactly. And the only way for us to get that shit is revolution, there needs to be radical change. Something you might expect under the regime of the first "black" president. Im not expecting handouts but steps in the right direction, so far its just been business as usual.
 
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

No doubt I fucks wit that idea.Thumbs up.Now let me ask ya a question.Why don´t ya hook up with them moors that have the same thought and them rich black investors and get it popping.Saying I´m sorry and attacking another culture or race is not the answer.

 
Last Of My Kind;4453340 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

my nigga....exactly. And the only way for us to get that shit is revolution, there needs to be radical change. Something you might expect under the regime of the first "black" president. Im not expecting handouts but steps in the right direction, so far its just been business as usual.

I'm not expecting shit from a Black president. I do seriously think that African descendants of slaves need to set up a national organization whose purpose is to sue these private corporations thats profited from the slave trade, these insurance companies, banks. It's actually a project Johnny Cochran was working on which led to him gettin clapped.

The funds awarded from these law suits should be used by this non for profit organization to bankroll the various steps I suggested.

The only way that we can get our people to stat backing the fight for reparations and making some serious noise is if the research is done to find out which companies profited and sue them. Let them know which of these modern day corporations and banks got their come up from slavery instead of pointing a general finger at 'the government'
 
Cabana_Da_Don;4453354 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

No doubt I fucks wit that idea.Thumbs up.Now let me ask ya a question.Why don´t ya hook up with them moors that have the same thought and them rich black investors and get it popping.Saying I´m sorry and attacking another culture or race is not the answer.

THIS!

 
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.

But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...
 
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.



But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

Learn the game nigga.You can't start a war without money.That's why MLK got popped so did MX.Gotta have an army to start a war and to have an army you gotta have soldiers.To have soldiers you gotta feed them.To feed them you gotta have money.That nigga is apologizing because he got no back up and no paper.To talk you gotta have money.An excellente general wins a war without pulling his sword.The game is to be sold not told but I[m trowing gems out there homie.

 
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.

But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

We don't have to 'attack' or harm anybody. I already have a plan for when we get to that bridge.
Cabana_Da_Don;4453354 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

No doubt I fucks wit that idea.Thumbs up.Now let me ask ya a question.Why don´t ya hook up with them moors that have the same thought and them rich black investors and get it popping.Saying I´m sorry and attacking another culture or race is not the answer.

I never said anything about attacking another culture, but this is survival of the illest.

Some of the things I have been finding out about the moors have me questioning them. When they were expelled from

Spain they were the vanguard force that destroyed much of the coastal countries of africa and left them vulnerable to european

invasion. This is on top of the arab conquests for whom they more closely identify with. I havent concluded their involvement yet because this info is relatively new to me, but what I've been hearing is not good.

 
PublicEnemigo1;4453423 said:
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.

But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

We don't have to 'attack' or harm anybody. I already have a plan for when we get to that bridge.
Cabana_Da_Don;4453354 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

No doubt I fucks wit that idea.Thumbs up.Now let me ask ya a question.Why don´t ya hook up with them moors that have the same thought and them rich black investors and get it popping.Saying I´m sorry and attacking another culture or race is not the answer.

I never said anything about attacking another culture, but this is survival of the illest.

Some of the things I have been finding out about the moors have me questioning them. When they were expelled from

Spain they were the vanguard force that destroyed much of the coastal countries of africa and left them vulnerable to european

invasion. This is on top of the arab conquests for whom they more closely identify with. I havent concluded their involvement yet because this info is relatively new to me, but what I've been hearing is not good.

No doubt.See that´s new to me.But yo I think blacks in the U.S are in a great position to start shit and get shit popping.Because ya are only 16% of the U.S population and that´s great because ya can get organized faster.Large numbers are harder to get everyone on the same page.And there´s a lot of money in the U.S to be made.The sad part is that the economy is down.Nobody s giving them loans to get it started so ya gon have to start with cold cash.I think cold cash is the answer so is getting organized in a economic level and less on that militant we gotta attack other races verbally bullshit.But ranting is good to get it popping but niggas gotta move on from that.
 
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How is what Barry said an attempt at painting black people as the victim? What because he said it explicitly in a public avenue? What he's saying is how other races, especially Asians, think by default. Chinese businesses out here will tell you straight up they only hire Chinese workers.

It's like we can't say anything nowadays without someone twisting it and crying reverse racism on us or say we're playing the victim.
 
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Cabana_Da_Don;4453394 said:
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.



But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

Learn the game nigga.You can't start a war without money.That's why MLK got popped so did MX.Gotta have an army to start a war and to have an army you gotta have soldiers.To have soldiers you gotta feed them.To feed them you gotta have money.That nigga is apologizing because he got no back up and no paper.To talk you gotta have money.An excellente general wins a war without pulling his sword.The game is to be sold not told but I[m trowing gems out there homie.

Ha, you learn the game nigga. You can start a war without money. What the fuck? We gonna get camos and shit? Nuclear weapons? Guerilla warfare...its possible, cheap and doable. Guns is not the only weapon...we have several.

People took me literal, what I was saying was simple. Fuck that bullshit of, we need to be kind to races that more often than not stepped all over us and disrespected generations. Fuck the nice shit.

And we don't need money at all start this. No money is needed. It's a mindset. It's an approach. Money comes later.

kai_valya;4453386 said:
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.

But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

so if you do the same thing how are you any different than the people you vilify? you're not

and tell me, what purpose does it serve to attack immigrants?

Yes, you have a point. But theres only so much one should take of that. You follow Allah, do you not? And from what I read about Allah, he never been a punk. When it came time for war for justice, his judgement was swift and harsh.

And I'm not talking about going around beating up immigrants. What I'm talking about is from a psychological standpoint. Black folks are passive about other races but have ultra hatred towards their own. I'm saying take that and use that against other races. You know, like how the italians do. How mexicans do. How whites do. How every other race does...they take care of their own.

This is the problem with our people. We are just too passive about alot of shit. Do they think that bullshit "treat others as..." when it comes to us???? Naw, they got a foot on our neck. But as soon as we have the opportunity to stand up and fight for ours, that old negro slave mentality comes in. "Oh we gotta be nice to them"

No disrespect to MLK but fuck that "we shall overcome" approach. They only way to stop a bully is by punching him dead in his mouth. You don't think about treating your oppressor with care and kindness, do you?

 
Cabana_Da_Don;4453447 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453423 said:
Dr.Chemix;4453375 said:
Man fuck that, attacking another race is no problem. My people been attacked, harassed, conditioned, maimed and raped. Why in the hell should we turn the cheek? Hey, you can be good dude about your business and still knock the fuck out of those who oppose you.

But before we get those lists cracking PE, we need some identity. Our inner character needs to be greatly repaired. Black folks need another horizon to look upon before we start building what we have lost...

We don't have to 'attack' or harm anybody. I already have a plan for when we get to that bridge.
Cabana_Da_Don;4453354 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4453310 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4453281 said:
As an ex-immigrant I must say...Ya don´t take enough advantage of America.And I mean it legally through hard work.

Dun that road of advantages you walking on isnt made of cobblestone, it's made with the bodies of those who bled and died to turn disenfranchisement into equal opportunity, not even advantage but just a fair shot.

This is what we need:

1) Black owned and operated farmland

2) Black owned and operated manufacturing plants these farmers can sell to

and can hire workers creating a pocket of blue collared middle class people

3) Grocers, tailors, and merchants Black owned and operated who these manufacturers

can distribute to

4) Black owned and operated business and technical schools to teach entrepreneurial

and technical skills

5) Black owned and operated private schools where Black children are taught and not

mis- or under- educated. A working curriculum not today's bullshit.

We need all this shit still.

No doubt I fucks wit that idea.Thumbs up.Now let me ask ya a question.Why don´t ya hook up with them moors that have the same thought and them rich black investors and get it popping.Saying I´m sorry and attacking another culture or race is not the answer.

I never said anything about attacking another culture, but this is survival of the illest.

Some of the things I have been finding out about the moors have me questioning them. When they were expelled from

Spain they were the vanguard force that destroyed much of the coastal countries of africa and left them vulnerable to european

invasion. This is on top of the arab conquests for whom they more close, identify with. I havent concluded their involvement yet because this info is relatively new to me, but what I've been hearing is not good.

No doubt.See that´s new to me.But yo I think blacks in the U.S are in a great position to start shit and get shit popping.Because ya are only 16% of the U.S population and that´s great because ya can get organized faster.Large numbers are harder to get everyone on the same page.And there´s a lot of money in the U.S to be made.The sad part is that the economy is down.Nobody s giving them loans to get it started so ya gon have to start with cold cash.I think cold cash is the answer so is getting organized in a economic level and less on that militant we gotta attack other races verbally bullshit.But ranting is good to get it popping but niggas gotta move on from that.

Yeah but first we got to get our minds off the ignorant, unimportant shit we stay stuck on. You making it sound easy, you dont undo some shit thats hundreds of years in the making just like that. You being on the outside looking in cant even begin to understand. at this point we need something to completely wipe the slate clean or we just have to wait for some type of generational change but sorry to say we going backwards at a faster rate, so im looking at option 1. Like we need an act of "god" or something. IDGAF send this bitch back to the stone age, thats the only way I can see us getting back to prominence as a ppl sadly.
 
PublicEnemigo1;4452995 said:
numbaz...80's baby;4452863 said:
How are Asians stopping us from "growing our own nurses and teachers"? They're burning down our stores and failing us in school?.

You want them to go? Stop shopping at their store. I dont understand how niggaz make it out to be more complicated than that. Quit worrying about what otha mothafuckaz are doing and handle yours'.

You have to factor in the city politics behind this. It's not like black entreprenuers aren't out there, but the city places much more lenient enforcement of codes than would a Black business opening up in the same area.

In the chi almost every god damn food spot not called harolds is ran by some rag head frontin like they down or they black, some even try to slick their head back and pretend like they are boricua. Every little corner store that was black about 20-30 years ago is owned by arabs. This is protocol from the SS to the Westside, from Englewood to South Shore. Lawndale to the Wild 100s.

hell yeah i be thinkin like wtf are these arabs doing in the 100s when I stop at a store on my way to school or going home
 


In order to organize people around higher ideals have to first address their immediate needs.

Duns are hungry out'chea got babies to feed, bills to pay and then just puff on a lil somethin just to

wipe away the day. We gotta address this first. When you feed the people they can start to listen to you.

give them what they need as well as building up good will gestures.

Free check ups

Breakfast programs

Clothing giveaways

Emergency funds

Duns gettin put out of houses can't make rent, how are they supposed to focus on building a brighter day whent hey don't even have a place to rest their head?

The things that the churches are supposed to do, is what an organization needs to pick up in order to get the hearts and minds.
 

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