Wikileaks confirms extraestial life

[zzombie]

The Huberis of our species is astounding lol

So because you can't wrap your mind around their tech they don't exist.

Technology has a limit

Technology can only work within the laws the universe

lol Yes, but our understanding of the laws of the universe are flawed and limited. That's where the hubris comes in, and honestly, it's not really hubris, it's ignorance because most of the people that make these kinds of comments simply don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

What I am saying is that we know enough about the laws of the universe to exclude certain things from plausibility and advanced aliens is one of those things.

I know what you're saying, and what I'm saying is that you are incorrect. You can say certain things are implausible based on our current knowledge, but it's foolish to act like what we know about the universe is absolute enough to dismiss something like the existence of aliens. For example, if you look deeper into how the semiconductors that run devices like computers and smartphones work, you'll see the functionality is explained using quantum mechanics and electrodynamics principles. If you go back a few centuries, people had no understanding of quantum mechanics and limited understanding of electrodynamics. All they knew was Newtonian mechanics. Based on their understanding, transistors couldn't exist. If they had used your logic, they would have believed that computers that can complete millions of calculations in seconds would have been impossible.

that's not true. WE KNOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS ABSOLUTE AND WE KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING NOT SHRINKING. We don't know all the absolutes of the universe but those two are enough. With those two pieces of information alone we know that FTL travel IS IMPOSSIBLE without using some imaginary substance or impossible amounts of energy. Those 2 pieces of information are true for us AND would be true for aliens.

which is why anytime you hear a scientist talk about FTL they presuppose certain things that are incredible implausible. Centuries ago even educated people did not know what we know now but they did at least know the earth was round and not flat. For your position to be valid EVERYTHING we know needs to be thrown out

soo we would have to go from saying the earth was round to saying the earth was flat, do you understand what i am trying to say??? The speed of light, the size and expanding nature of the universe and many other things would have to be proven wrong for your position to be true and we know for a fact that they are not

I don't know how you come to the conclusion that the bold is true. Again, you should stop because you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, according to Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity, the speed of light is essentially a universal speed limit. Even if that turns out to be absolutely true in all circumstances, it's already been proven that there are ways to bend that law if you can't break it. Where do you think the warp drive from Star Trek came from? Do you think Gene Roddenberry just pulled that out of his ass? No, it's based on real scientific theory. Einstein's theory of General Relativity allows for the warping of space time that would allow objects to travel between points A and B faster than the speed of light without even moving relative to space. This would preserve the light speed limit while also making it possible to cross great distances far faster than light. Now, if our current theories and understanding of physics already allow for these things, how can you say that being who may have hundreds of thousands of years of a head start on us couldn't have figured things out? You can't, so stop it.

lol I already told you why things like warp drive cannot realistically be done. It would require too much energy so while on paper things like warp drive and worm hole should be possible in reality they can never be created, in essence they are nothing more than thought experiments. SCIENTIST have already calculated how much energy would be needed for things like warp drive and worm holes. For the latter it's something like half of all the energy in the universe and for the former even the most optimistic theories require astronomical amounts of energy.

 

[zzombie]

The funny thing is that even if we travel faster than the speed of light it still won't be enough we would need to travel many times the speed of light to reach another star which means we would require even more energy.

 

[Inglewood_B]

You guys ruined this thread

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

This could all be an elaborate ruse to hide the prophetic events that are to come.

If Christ is supposed to come back with a sword of judgement and to end the evil reign that has dominion over the whole world, do you think "they" (who/whatever is in control of all the evil of this world) REALLY are gonna just roll over?

hell yea. I don't believe in a abrahamic god. I moreso believe in the living breathing universe. But if a god did show up better believe I believe in him then. I don't argue or not believe in evidence. Facts are facts. Only idiots dispute them.

That was kind of my point tho. We are conditioned to lean on the "understanding" of this world (facts). But to most, the things of a spirtual nature are looked at as foolishness. Even if you dont believe, when the prophetic events of the end times come to pass, they will be labled as something else. You cant expect the media (if they are even still around) or popular opinion to point out Biblical prophecy and admit the carnal woeld has been wrong....

That will happen in due time, but by that poibt it will be too late. And no one will be able to deny the Most High. But the battle that is to come will be flipped and lied on to the very end....

 

[shit happens]

This could all be an elaborate ruse to hide the prophetic events that are to come.

If Christ is supposed to come back with a sword of judgement and to end the evil reign that has dominion over the whole world, do you think "they" (who/whatever is in control of all the evil of this world) REALLY are gonna just roll over?

hell yea. I don't believe in a abrahamic god. I moreso believe in the living breathing universe. But if a god did show up better believe I believe in him then. I don't argue or not believe in evidence. Facts are facts. Only idiots dispute them.

That was kind of my point tho. We are conditioned to lean on the "understanding" of this world (facts). But to most, the things of a spirtual nature are looked at as foolishness. Even if you dont believe, when the prophetic events of the end times come to pass, they will be labled as something else. You cant expect the media (if they are even still around) or popular opinion to point out Biblical prophecy and admit the carnal woeld has been wrong....

That will happen in due time, but by that poibt it will be too late. And no one will be able to deny the Most High. But the battle that is to come will be flipped and lied on to the very end....

The thing about "biblical prophecies" is that anything can be spent to fit the mold. Be it man made or natural disaster.

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

The thing about "biblical prophecies" is that anything can be spent to fit the mold. Be it man made or natural disaster.

That is actually how Science fits a lot of "evidence" in to their theories also

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

This could all be an elaborate ruse to hide the prophetic events that are to come.

If Christ is supposed to come back with a sword of judgement and to end the evil reign that has dominion over the whole world, do you think "they" (who/whatever is in control of all the evil of this world) REALLY are gonna just roll over?

hell yea. I don't believe in a abrahamic god. I moreso believe in the living breathing universe. But if a god did show up better believe I believe in him then. I don't argue or not believe in evidence. Facts are facts. Only idiots dispute them.

That was kind of my point tho. We are conditioned to lean on the "understanding" of this world (facts). But to most, the things of a spirtual nature are looked at as foolishness. Even if you dont believe, when the prophetic events of the end times come to pass, they will be labled as something else. You cant expect the media (if they are even still around) or popular opinion to point out Biblical prophecy and admit the carnal woeld has been wrong....

That will happen in due time, but by that poibt it will be too late. And no one will be able to deny the Most High. But the battle that is to come will be flipped and lied on to the very end....

Amen my brother. Amen.

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

Black_Samson wrote: »

Hell i look forward to the day these scientist tear a whole thru our reality and into the next.

You know they will fuck it up and awaken the old ones.

Cthulu coming yall...

All hail the spaghetti faced monster with baby dragon wings.

Spaghetti monster? you follow richard dawkins? He's a admitted psuedo skeptic he has an agenda and is actually not that smart

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

The new theory "scientist" are pushing is the SIMULATION THEORY. Funny because that implies a creator or creators....poor science nerds appear smart and genius to the lay-man, but really are not taking evidence molding in to current theories

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

This could all be an elaborate ruse to hide the prophetic events that are to come.

If Christ is supposed to come back with a sword of judgement and to end the evil reign that has dominion over the whole world, do you think "they" (who/whatever is in control of all the evil of this world) REALLY are gonna just roll over?

hell yea. I don't believe in a abrahamic god. I moreso believe in the living breathing universe. But if a god did show up better believe I believe in him then. I don't argue or not believe in evidence. Facts are facts. Only idiots dispute them.

That was kind of my point tho. We are conditioned to lean on the "understanding" of this world (facts). But to most, the things of a spirtual nature are looked at as foolishness. Even if you dont believe, when the prophetic events of the end times come to pass, they will be labled as something else. You cant expect the media (if they are even still around) or popular opinion to point out Biblical prophecy and admit the carnal woeld has been wrong....

That will happen in due time, but by that poibt it will be too late. And no one will be able to deny the Most High. But the battle that is to come will be flipped and lied on to the very end....

The thing about "biblical prophecies" is that anything can be spent to fit the mold. Be it man made or natural disaster.

How do you explain May 14, 1948? God explained it over 2600 years ago!

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

A bigger problem with this awkward compliment, though, is that it’s just not true. Scientists are not that smart — we don’t think in a wholly different manner than ordinary people do. What makes a professional scientist is not a supercharged brain with more processing power, but a collection of subtle differences in skills and inclinations. We’re slightly better at doing the sort of things that professional scientists do on a daily basis — I’m better with math than the average person — but more importantly, we enjoy those activities and so spend time honing those skills, making the differences appear even greater.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/scientists-are-not-that-smart.html

 

[englishdude]

The Huberis of our species is astounding lol

So because you can't wrap your mind around their tech they don't exist.

Technology has a limit

Technology can only work within the laws the universe

lol Yes, but our understanding of the laws of the universe are flawed and limited. That's where the hubris comes in, and honestly, it's not really hubris, it's ignorance because most of the people that make these kinds of comments simply don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

What I am saying is that we know enough about the laws of the universe to exclude certain things from plausibility and advanced aliens is one of those things.

I know what you're saying, and what I'm saying is that you are incorrect. You can say certain things are implausible based on our current knowledge, but it's foolish to act like what we know about the universe is absolute enough to dismiss something like the existence of aliens. For example, if you look deeper into how the semiconductors that run devices like computers and smartphones work, you'll see the functionality is explained using quantum mechanics and electrodynamics principles. If you go back a few centuries, people had no understanding of quantum mechanics and limited understanding of electrodynamics. All they knew was Newtonian mechanics. Based on their understanding, transistors couldn't exist. If they had used your logic, they would have believed that computers that can complete millions of calculations in seconds would have been impossible.

that's not true. WE KNOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS ABSOLUTE AND WE KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING NOT SHRINKING. We don't know all the absolutes of the universe but those two are enough. With those two pieces of information alone we know that FTL travel IS IMPOSSIBLE without using some imaginary substance or impossible amounts of energy. Those 2 pieces of information are true for us AND would be true for aliens.

which is why anytime you hear a scientist talk about FTL they presuppose certain things that are incredible implausible. Centuries ago even educated people did not know what we know now but they did at least know the earth was round and not flat. For your position to be valid EVERYTHING we know needs to be thrown out

soo we would have to go from saying the earth was round to saying the earth was flat, do you understand what i am trying to say??? The speed of light, the size and expandi The speed of light, the size and expanding nature of the universe and many other things would have to be proven wrong for your position to be true and we know for a fact that they are not

1st bold is a lie, Sumerians had knowledge of the 12 planets in the solar system, we only discovered Pluto in 1930. That ain't Centuries either, that's Millenia ago.

2nd bold they also understood the planets were spherical, we can go back into fairly recent history and see a large amount of the populace believed the world was in fact flat... So yea that pretty much is what happened....

 

[zzombie]

The Huberis of our species is astounding lol

So because you can't wrap your mind around their tech they don't exist.

Technology has a limit

Technology can only work within the laws the universe

lol Yes, but our understanding of the laws of the universe are flawed and limited. That's where the hubris comes in, and honestly, it's not really hubris, it's ignorance because most of the people that make these kinds of comments simply don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

What I am saying is that we know enough about the laws of the universe to exclude certain things from plausibility and advanced aliens is one of those things.

I know what you're saying, and what I'm saying is that you are incorrect. You can say certain things are implausible based on our current knowledge, but it's foolish to act like what we know about the universe is absolute enough to dismiss something like the existence of aliens. For example, if you look deeper into how the semiconductors that run devices like computers and smartphones work, you'll see the functionality is explained using quantum mechanics and electrodynamics principles. If you go back a few centuries, people had no understanding of quantum mechanics and limited understanding of electrodynamics. All they knew was Newtonian mechanics. Based on their understanding, transistors couldn't exist. If they had used your logic, they would have believed that computers that can complete millions of calculations in seconds would have been impossible.

that's not true. WE KNOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS ABSOLUTE AND WE KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING NOT SHRINKING. We don't know all the absolutes of the universe but those two are enough. With those two pieces of information alone we know that FTL travel IS IMPOSSIBLE without using some imaginary substance or impossible amounts of energy. Those 2 pieces of information are true for us AND would be true for aliens.

which is why anytime you hear a scientist talk about FTL they presuppose certain things that are incredible implausible. Centuries ago even educated people did not know what we know now but they did at least know the earth was round and not flat. For your position to be valid EVERYTHING we know needs to be thrown out

soo we would have to go from saying the earth was round to saying the earth was flat, do you understand what i am trying to say??? The speed of light, the size and expandi The speed of light, the size and expanding nature of the universe and many other things would have to be proven wrong for your position to be true and we know for a fact that they are not

1st bold is a lie, Sumerians had knowledge of the 12 planets in the solar system, we only discovered Pluto in 1930. That ain't Centuries either, that's Millenia ago.

2nd bold they also understood the planets were spherical, we can go back into fairly recent history and see a large amount of the populace believed the world was in fact flat... So yea that pretty much is what happened....

I said the educated people not the average person. Also it depends on which civilization and era of history you are looking at

The average person couldn't even read

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

I said the educated people not the average person. Also it depends on which civilization and era of history you are looking at

The average person couldn't even read

The average person can't critically think and were are under much more distraction in recent history (Television, Social Media, Video Games ETC)

Instead of parroting information from other people. Tell us YOUR opinion.

Stop parroting information and you're incorrect about the literacy part too

 

[zzombie]

I said the educated people not the average person. Also it depends on which civilization and era of history you are looking at

The average person couldn't even read

The average person can't critically think and were are under much more distraction in recent history (Television, Social Media, Video Games ETC)

Instead of parroting information from other people. Tell us YOUR opinion.

Stop parroting information and you're incorrect about the literacy part too

I am not parroting anything this is my opinion after absorbing and analyzing relevant information. Maybe I am wrong about the literacy thing but only by percentage it probably wasn't most but it was likely a large % of people couldn't read more than a few words

 

[Neophyte Wolfgang]

I am not parroting anything this is my opinion after absorbing and analyzing relevant information. Maybe I am wrong about the literacy thing but only by percentage it probably wasn't most but it was likely a large % of people couldn't read more than a few words

You are parroting. If you weren't you wouldn't have posted the video on the Fermi Paradox....you also claimed that is your stance.

 

[zzombie]

I am not parroting anything this is my opinion after absorbing and analyzing relevant information. Maybe I am wrong about the literacy thing but only by percentage it probably wasn't most but it was likely a large % of people couldn't read more than a few words

You are parroting. If you weren't you wouldn't have posted the video on the Fermi Paradox....you also claimed that is your stance.

i posted the video because it made sense since it aligns with what i know just because my opinion aligns with someone else does not mean my opinion comes from anywhere but me

 

[blackgod813]

All the orbs of light that people have photographed and recorded are spiritual beings! I've seen them myself on numerous occasions. Manifesting themselves as an orb of light in the sky and then zooming off in a blink of an eye. This phenomenon has been seen and recorded throughout the ages!

But the aliens that most people think about because of Hollywood do not exist! They do not have flesh and bones. They are immaterial beings who if seen up close and personal would terrify you so much that you would drop down as if you were dead upon seeing them in their spiritual manifestation!

The arch enemy of our souls, the devil, has 4 faces! The Bible describes exactly what a cherub looks like and he is a fallen cherub. If you were to see a cherub your Bowles would be emptied and you would faint. Amen.

...IS THIS WHY WE WOULD DIE IF WE EVER SAW THE FACE OF GOD?

God can't mix with sin. Our flesh would be destroyed the moment His face would be seen for He is a consuming fire. That is why flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God. We must be born again. So that when we do see Him we will be able to live in His sight.

In the Bible Every time a supernatural being was seen by a human in its spiritual form, humans drop down as if they were dead. An up close and personal encounter with an angel in its true form would be sheer terror!!! How much more the Creator of all things seen and unseen?

U sayin they ugly.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

All the orbs of light that people have photographed and recorded are spiritual beings! I've seen them myself on numerous occasions. Manifesting themselves as an orb of light in the sky and then zooming off in a blink of an eye. This phenomenon has been seen and recorded throughout the ages!

But the aliens that most people think about because of Hollywood do not exist! They do not have flesh and bones. They are immaterial beings who if seen up close and personal would terrify you so much that you would drop down as if you were dead upon seeing them in their spiritual manifestation!

The arch enemy of our souls, the devil, has 4 faces! The Bible describes exactly what a cherub looks like and he is a fallen cherub. If you were to see a cherub your Bowles would be emptied and you would faint. Amen.

...IS THIS WHY WE WOULD DIE IF WE EVER SAW THE FACE OF GOD?

God can't mix with sin. Our flesh would be destroyed the moment His face would be seen for He is a consuming fire. That is why flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God. We must be born again. So that when we do see Him we will be able to live in His sight.

In the Bible Every time a supernatural being was seen by a human in its spiritual form, humans drop down as if they were dead. An up close and personal encounter with an angel in its true form would be sheer terror!!! How much more the Creator of all things seen and unseen?

U sayin they ugly.

No. God said that Satan was perfect in beauty on the day that he was created. That is why he, the devil, is able to masquerade as an angel of light. He was the most wisest and beautiful creature God ever created in the spiritual realm.

But compared to God, he is less than a speck of dust! For in God resides all beauty, wisdom, power, and glory. What a joy it will be to finally see Him face to face on that day! WOW! What a prospect! Hallelujah!

 

[blackgod813]

All the orbs of light that people have photographed and recorded are spiritual beings! I've seen them myself on numerous occasions. Manifesting themselves as an orb of light in the sky and then zooming off in a blink of an eye. This phenomenon has been seen and recorded throughout the ages!

But the aliens that most people think about because of Hollywood do not exist! They do not have flesh and bones. They are immaterial beings who if seen up close and personal would terrify you so much that you would drop down as if you were dead upon seeing them in their spiritual manifestation!

The arch enemy of our souls, the devil, has 4 faces! The Bible describes exactly what a cherub looks like and he is a fallen cherub. If you were to see a cherub your Bowles would be emptied and you would faint. Amen.

...IS THIS WHY WE WOULD DIE IF WE EVER SAW THE FACE OF GOD?

God can't mix with sin. Our flesh would be destroyed the moment His face would be seen for He is a consuming fire. That is why flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God. We must be born again. So that when we do see Him we will be able to live in His sight.

In the Bible Every time a supernatural being was seen by a human in its spiritual form, humans drop down as if they were dead. An up close and personal encounter with an angel in its true form would be sheer terror!!! How much more the Creator of all things seen and unseen?

U sayin they ugly.

No. God said that Satan was perfect in beauty on the day that he was created. That is why he, the devil, is able to masquerade as an angel of light. He was the most wisest and beautiful creature God ever created in the spiritual realm.

But compared to God, he is less than a speck of dust! For in God resides all beauty, wisdom, power, and glory. What a joy it will be to finally see Him face to face on that day! WOW! What a prospect! Hallelujah!

Well if they fine if a angel is fine...why im Shit on myself.....