Why We Must Destroy and Rebuild Exhibit A#... KRS vs PM Dawn ( told by Kool Kim)

[judahxulu]

At the time KRS caught a lot of bad press for what he did. I don't condone what he did but understand why. Not only did Prince Bee have that quote about KRS but he said "Chuck D is the master of making mountains out of molehills!"

That left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth. Before PM Dawn had they own little lane & nobody bothered them!

At the end of the day the nigga was RIGHT though... That was HIS intervies he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wanna say just like anyone else.

Right about what? It's his opinion. In which he got his ass beat for it. Again I'm not for what KRS did. However nobody made Prince say what he said. It was totally unprovoked for where i sit.

Right about implying KRS One not really teaching shit and of Chuck D being extra about small subjects in the broader scope of things. And that pretty much is the legacy of "conscious" rap. That was the seed of its opposite, that gangsta shit gaining momentum. 2 sides to one coin. Aside from the obvious corporate corruption ( Def Jam your fucking thread is next!) there has to be something patently wrong with certain "industry archetypes" for their successors to be so ineffectual at balancing the market and actually having some kind of regenerative effect on the environment of their people. Statistic strongly suggest an association between black on black murders, sexual dysfunction and other degenerative practices within the so-called black community from where rap music sprung in the first place. Ignorant rappers die, killed, and get locked up to prove the authenticity of their subject matter while most "conscious" artists dont want to be identified as such and dont do shit but complain and circle jerk on how intellectually superior they are while their sons fucking kill each other and burn down their own goddamn neighborhoods.

 

[SneakDZA]

At the time KRS caught a lot of bad press for what he did. I don't condone what he did but understand why. Not only did Prince Bee have that quote about KRS but he said "Chuck D is the master of making mountains out of molehills!"

That left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth. Before PM Dawn had they own little lane & nobody bothered them!

At the end of the day the nigga was RIGHT though... That was HIS intervies he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wanna say just like anyone else.

Right about what? It's his opinion. In which he got his ass beat for it. Again I'm not for what KRS did. However nobody made Prince say what he said. It was totally unprovoked for where i sit.

Right about implying KRS One not really teaching shit and of Chuck D being extra about small subjects in the broader scope of things. And that pretty much is the legacy of "conscious" rap. That was the seed of its opposite, that gangsta shit gaining momentum. 2 sides to one coin. Aside from the obvious corporate corruption ( Def Jam your fucking thread is next!) there has to be something patently wrong with certain "industry archetypes" for their successors to be so ineffectual at balancing the market and actually having some kind of regenerative effect on the environment of their people. Statistic strongly suggest an association between black on black murders, sexual dysfunction and other degenerative practices within the so-called black community from where rap music sprung in the first place. Ignorant rappers die, killed, and get locked up to prove the authenticity of their subject matter while most "conscious" artists dont want to be identified as such and dont do shit but complain and circle jerk on how intellectually superior they are while their sons fucking kill each other and burn down their own goddamn neighborhoods.

it sounds like you hate rap music. you should join another site.

 

[judahxulu]

this nigga is seriously caping for p.m. dawn though.

a fat hippie and a pedophile.

this is despicable.

you really think this thread is about p.m. dawn, b?

Nah - it's clear that it's a poorly disguised KRS-One hate thead.

No fucks given about PM Dawn getting mushed off the damn stage. I wish it would happen more often to these garbage soft pop rappers.

Bruh I dont hate or love people I dont know.. Im not no silly ass fanboy that worships and reviles rappers like its my fucking religion... this is a THINKING MANS thread, asshole... it shows your brainwashed mentality that you think the dude is above critique... KRS One is no different to me than any other rapper- I like some shit from them. some shit I dont like..but no other rapper is coming out saying they are the face of hip-hop or allways opening their big ass mouth saying dumb shit reaaaaal.... slooowww....liKKe..thissssss with a smug shit eating grin on- but is guilty of a lot of the same shit at a point in time where it influenced a lot of rappers to do the same. this bad pattern is trapped within the bubble of some kind of "legendary status" BASED on a FALSE IMPRESSION. this is about the subsequent effect on hip-hop. Dumbass, this thread is about my LOVE for the art. If I hate a nigga, why in the fuck would I disguise it? Stupid. And again.. read the title EXHIBIT A..meaning there are more threads to come all in the vein of uncovering inconvenient truth in the face of popular lies. Hip-hop is fucked up and I'm tired of all the OBVIOUSLY niggas getting blamed when I have specific knowledge of people who are NOT the usual suspects that indeed started some fucked up behavior patterns early on in the history LIKE for instance in another thread I'll cover how big the pedophile Malachi Z Yorks inane hodge podge doctrine spawned a lot of that pseudo-intellectual shit niggas be talking today.

as far as niggas getting thrown off of stages.. get the fuck outta here. just because a man speaking peace dont mean he soft or garbage. you think people talking righteousness are garbage cause your soul is wicked bitch. And thats straight no chaser. I dont even cuss in my rhymes. I talk peaceful but admonish self-defense. Let a nigga try to throw me off of a stage because his punk ass dont prefer my music. Ill break at least 2 bones in his fucking body, preferably one in the facial area cause I love the sound that shit makes when you crack a grill or a cheekbone. You missed the point and Im still tryna educate your simple ass to it. Hip-hop has been Bizzaro world for a while.. up is down, left is right and the toughest talking niggas are USUALLY the weakest while the more socially responsible spitters are not to be trifled with. I dont give a fuck about KRS Ones foolishness as an individual... I do and have done foolish shit too...difference is I havent influenced 2 generations of rap with that bullshit under the guise of being "THE Teacher" when in reality I still need to be a fucking student of somebody. All these false mythologies and hero worship just weaken hip-hop. If it all these niggas that jumpp up bragging about what they used to do and what they did first were all that they prtray and/or pumped up to be the WHY THE FUCK IS HIP-HOP LIKEIT IS NOW? You cant blame the "dark side" of rap if you claim to bring light. When you ever seen a candle complain that a room was too dark? Nah..the muthafucka just be what it is and darkness scatters. Dudes like KRS One claim to be the light but ALLOWED darkness to choke out the heart and soul of hip-hop but allways wanna give sound bites playing pussy ass blame games. THIS, my retrded fellow, IS A LOVE THREAD..not a hate thread.

 

[judahxulu]

At the time KRS caught a lot of bad press for what he did. I don't condone what he did but understand why. Not only did Prince Bee have that quote about KRS but he said "Chuck D is the master of making mountains out of molehills!"

That left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth. Before PM Dawn had they own little lane & nobody bothered them!

At the end of the day the nigga was RIGHT though... That was HIS intervies he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wanna say just like anyone else.

Right about what? It's his opinion. In which he got his ass beat for it. Again I'm not for what KRS did. However nobody made Prince say what he said. It was totally unprovoked for where i sit.

Right about implying KRS One not really teaching shit and of Chuck D being extra about small subjects in the broader scope of things. And that pretty much is the legacy of "conscious" rap. That was the seed of its opposite, that gangsta shit gaining momentum. 2 sides to one coin. Aside from the obvious corporate corruption ( Def Jam your fucking thread is next!) there has to be something patently wrong with certain "industry archetypes" for their successors to be so ineffectual at balancing the market and actually having some kind of regenerative effect on the environment of their people. Statistic strongly suggest an association between black on black murders, sexual dysfunction and other degenerative practices within the so-called black community from where rap music sprung in the first place. Ignorant rappers die, killed, and get locked up to prove the authenticity of their subject matter while most "conscious" artists dont want to be identified as such and dont do shit but complain and circle jerk on how intellectually superior they are while their sons fucking kill each other and burn down their own goddamn neighborhoods.

it sounds like you hate rap music. you should join another site.

Stupid I spit and teach the youth around hip-hop centered cultural, language arts and social studies for a living...I work more on the international scene because those brothers and sister live under enough duress and are smart enough not to get bribed into destroying themselves with an artform invented FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR PEOPLE. I tried and tried doing shit for years with "conscuious" cats after the image of folks like KRS and guess what? The IGNORANT RAPPERS be quicker to help get school supplies for the kids or pass out food and clothes to homeless people. Fuck rap. Nigga Im a GRIOT. I AM the evolution. And I aint the only one... we on some Black Illuminati shit

 

[judahxulu]

Grown folks talking and you baby boo-boo fresh ass niggas wanna try to engage me in a battle of wits unarmed. Fuck off...Im DARPA up in this bitch!!

 

[zombie]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

 

[a_list]

this O.G Bobby Johnson looking cat still on his tirade....lol

 

[judahxulu]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

 

[zombie]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

Rakim and g rap has more influence than krs. you have put fourth no information that would make anybody hate krs-1 it's not like he was out there kicking kittens or some shit.

 

[judahxulu]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

Rakim and g rap has more influence than krs. you have put fourth no information that would make anybody hate krs-1 it's not like he was out there kicking kittens or some shit.

good...cause thats not my goal you fucking idiot. thats what YOU dumb niggas are saying because you cant separate an individual account within the larger context of a cultural critique from an attack on an individual therefore youre just denying valid or at least points worthy od consideration simply for the sake of being contrary. under a dumb ass false premise...

 

[shareef242]

At the time KRS caught a lot of bad press for what he did. I don't condone what he did but understand why. Not only did Prince Bee have that quote about KRS but he said "Chuck D is the master of making mountains out of molehills!"

That left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth. Before PM Dawn had they own little lane & nobody bothered them!

At the end of the day the nigga was RIGHT though... That was HIS intervies he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wanna say just like anyone else.

Right about what? It's his opinion. In which he got his ass beat for it. Again I'm not for what KRS did. However nobody made Prince say what he said. It was totally unprovoked for where i sit.

Right about implying KRS One not really teaching shit and of Chuck D being extra about small subjects in the broader scope of things. And that pretty much is the legacy of "conscious" rap. That was the seed of its opposite, that gangsta shit gaining momentum. 2 sides to one coin. Aside from the obvious corporate corruption ( Def Jam your fucking thread is next!) there has to be something patently wrong with certain "industry archetypes" for their successors to be so ineffectual at balancing the market and actually having some kind of regenerative effect on the environment of their people. Statistic strongly suggest an association between black on black murders, sexual dysfunction and other degenerative practices within the so-called black community from where rap music sprung in the first place. Ignorant rappers die, killed, and get locked up to prove the authenticity of their subject matter while most "conscious" artists dont want to be identified as such and dont do shit but complain and circle jerk on how intellectually superior they are while their sons fucking kill each other and burn down their own goddamn neighborhoods.

I'm sorry but i think your reaching!

 

[judahxulu]

this O.G Bobby Johnson looking cat still on his tirade....lol

im not the one bumping it nigga. real heads know what the fuck im talmbout bruh. now shut the fuck up b4 i put a potato on this six shooter and me and loco come thru blowing pcp smoke ready to put in work for the deuce....

 

[zombie]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

Rakim and g rap has more influence than krs. you have put fourth no information that would make anybody hate krs-1 it's not like he was out there kicking kittens or some shit.

good...cause thats not my goal you fucking idiot. thats what YOU dumb niggas are saying because you cant separate an individual account within the larger context of a cultural critique from an attack on an individual therefore youre just denying valid or at least points worthy od consideration simply for the sake of being contrary. under a dumb ass false premise...

I UNDERSTAND THE LARGER CONTEXT YOU are trying to make but using krs-1 as an example if fucking stupid.

The points made have been faulty.

 

[judahxulu]

At the time KRS caught a lot of bad press for what he did. I don't condone what he did but understand why. Not only did Prince Bee have that quote about KRS but he said "Chuck D is the master of making mountains out of molehills!"

That left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth. Before PM Dawn had they own little lane & nobody bothered them!

At the end of the day the nigga was RIGHT though... That was HIS intervies he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wanna say just like anyone else.

Right about what? It's his opinion. In which he got his ass beat for it. Again I'm not for what KRS did. However nobody made Prince say what he said. It was totally unprovoked for where i sit.

Right about implying KRS One not really teaching shit and of Chuck D being extra about small subjects in the broader scope of things. And that pretty much is the legacy of "conscious" rap. That was the seed of its opposite, that gangsta shit gaining momentum. 2 sides to one coin. Aside from the obvious corporate corruption ( Def Jam your fucking thread is next!) there has to be something patently wrong with certain "industry archetypes" for their successors to be so ineffectual at balancing the market and actually having some kind of regenerative effect on the environment of their people. Statistic strongly suggest an association between black on black murders, sexual dysfunction and other degenerative practices within the so-called black community from where rap music sprung in the first place. Ignorant rappers die, killed, and get locked up to prove the authenticity of their subject matter while most "conscious" artists dont want to be identified as such and dont do shit but complain and circle jerk on how intellectually superior they are while their sons fucking kill each other and burn down their own goddamn neighborhoods.

I'm sorry but i think your reaching!

reaching to what exactly? and youre entitled to your opinion... my goal is to get people to think and challenge convention. and im purposely leaving things out because once again ...this is a series. i been researching a book for the longest. i didnt pull anything out of thin air here. its all plain as day in the pages of history, statistics, sociological studies and psychology. stay tuned if you will..... this one is about dead

 

[D.Original]

KRS1 is still a man and no man is perfect. even righteous people makes mistakes. and im dam sure not gona take away everything KRS has done for hiphop bc of this.

 

[judahxulu]

KRS1 is still a man and no man is perfect. even righteous people makes mistakes. and im dam sure not gona take away everything KRS has done for hiphop bc of this.

people keep saying that but no one can clearly explain what irreplacable contribution he gave to the abstract concept called hip-hop.. what "everything" has he done?

 

[judahxulu]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

Rakim and g rap has more influence than krs. you have put fourth no information that would make anybody hate krs-1 it's not like he was out there kicking kittens or some shit.

good...cause thats not my goal you fucking idiot. thats what YOU dumb niggas are saying because you cant separate an individual account within the larger context of a cultural critique from an attack on an individual therefore youre just denying valid or at least points worthy od consideration simply for the sake of being contrary. under a dumb ass false premise...

I UNDERSTAND THE LARGER CONTEXT YOU are trying to make but using krs-1 as an example if fucking stupid.

The points made have been faulty.

if you understand the context then pour you a glass of "shut the fuck up" and take that shit to da head, bro

and other people think my points are not faulty... more people agree with me than you. i just dont give a fuck about backlash so i say shit people are scared or reluctant to say.. or just couldn't find the words to describe what they intuit

 

[zombie]

krs-1 is not as influential as this jackass is making him out to be krs might consider himself to be the king of hip-hop but so the fuck what. hip-hop has no real lords or kings he and other people like him did not ALLOW ANYTHING.

GANGSTA rap, negative rap became popular for the same reasons mafia movies are popular in america

so now i'm exaggerating the influence of krs-one. nigga thats like a standard interview answer for anybody using a "positive" or even jus rappity rap marketing ploy.. who are your influences..they gonna say his name in a standard ass source magazine approved list when asked who inspired them. shut the fuck up bruh. if you dont like the thread why keep coming in it, pusshole?

Rakim and g rap has more influence than krs. you have put fourth no information that would make anybody hate krs-1 it's not like he was out there kicking kittens or some shit.

good...cause thats not my goal you fucking idiot. thats what YOU dumb niggas are saying because you cant separate an individual account within the larger context of a cultural critique from an attack on an individual therefore youre just denying valid or at least points worthy od consideration simply for the sake of being contrary. under a dumb ass false premise...

I UNDERSTAND THE LARGER CONTEXT YOU are trying to make but using krs-1 as an example if fucking stupid.

The points made have been faulty.

if you understand the context then pour you a glass of "shut the fuck up" and take that shit to da head, bro

and other people think my points are not faulty... more people agree with me than you. i just dont give a fuck about backlash so i say shit people are scared or reluctant to say.. or just couldn't find the words to describe what they intuit

ACTUALLY you deluded fool most people just don't give a fuck, you want me to go away because i am exposing the drivel and bullshit you are spewing all over this thread.

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Brother you have been on the reason long enough to know that certain double standards are in place when it comes to certain artists. Linking those artist and their actions whether in or out of the musical context to the reality of todays culture which hiphop is intricately intertwined with is taboo to these heathens. It is easier for some to bitch about things and place false idols above reproach and revel in a fictional idealized past where those things that their Idols planted the seeds for never existed. There has been a systematic purging on this site of anyone who actually uses critical objective thinking that does not align with the direction the mainstream has crafted for the HipHop Culture, be careful the more you speak on the truth the more you will be hated for it as they try and derail and distract you from your valid points...

 

[SneakDZA]

most will sleep on or miss the point of this thread well said BOSS...

Soloman the Wise, sidekick for hire... I see you finally found someone pseudo-intellectual enough to replace H-Rap.

congratulations.