why was jay-z such a late bloomer?

[FyHunnit]

50 cent was 27 when get rich or die tryin dropped

The game was 26 when the documentary dropped

Jay electronic is 34 and his album hasnt dropped

J cole is 26 and his album hasnt dropped

Kanye west was 26 when college dropout dropped

em was 26 when slim shady lp dropped

big pun was 27 when capitol punishment dropped

All were older or the exact same age as jigga when rd dropped

Close thread ......................

 

[SunZoo_aka_LC]

jay was doin real street ish while these cats was fantasizing on wax about it... how u think he laid the foundation for the roc? street money.. none of that sellout label a/r directed ish....

 

[thecomebacklegend]

jay was doin real street ish .

lol eating cookies for 60 hrs is "real street ish"?

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

50 cent was 27 when get rich or die tryin dropped

The game was 26 when the documentary dropped

Jay electronic is 34 and his album hasnt dropped

J cole is 26 and his album hasnt dropped

Kanye west was 26 when college dropout dropped

em was 26 when slim shady lp dropped

big pun was 27 when capitol punishment dropped

All were older or the exact same age as jigga when rd dropped

He was obviously referring to rappers who were Jay's peers.

the honest truth is Pac was dissin him and fans werent gonna support. Biggies was still alive and Jay wasnt on that level. Jay was rappin fast with Jaz o and folks wernt feeling that flow outside of NY. Once Pac and Big died Hard Knock Life filled that void. He and DMX

This...........

 

[#1 pick]

Jay killed the Annie beat and his others songs were pretty good. I wouldn't say he's an intimater because he's more of a trendsetter. The thing is, his flow isn't great and really nothing he does rapping is great. He has an aura and excellent charisma. Not to mention his style always stands out. He is one rapper who clearly stands out by other things outside of rapping. Lil Wayne does too. Which is why in music natural talent is secondary. Entertaining is #1. If you can do both like Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. Then you are truly special.

 

[gman82]

Because Jay-Z is not an artist, he is an imitator. He has to wait for a trend to develop so he can follow it. He observes a formula and then he applies it. He sees who's hot in the game and he latches on to them for success.

Case & Point:

The criminal tales Jay-Z was spittin on Reasonable Doubt wasn't his lane previous to that album. "I Can't Get With That" nor "Da Graveyard" were anything like "D'Evils". It's not until you heard stuff like G Rap's "4, 5, 6", Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" etc, did you hear him follow suit. Nas did the same, however, What makes him different from so many others was that he was invited into it. He was on G Rap's album, as well as AZ's "Doe Or Die" on "Mo Money, Mo Murder, Mo Homocide" which began The Firm. Jay just jumped in like he was everybody else.

Diddy was dancin' around all dumb with bright videos and flashy gimmicks so Jay-Z made "Sunshine". Ruff Ryders came around and started deadin' that shiny suit shit and Jay-Z released "Money Cash Hoes" ft. DMX. When Hot Boys got play in 99, Jay invited Juvenile to do the hoot on "Snoopy Track". So on and so forth. To answer your question Jay-Z adapts to the times by emulating whatever is popular. He doesn't create anything. So it's not that he's a late bloomer, he just needs something popular to feed off of.

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[KeepinItHundred]

i'm disapointed in jigger warriors

where's usmarine at? yall just gonna let these facts fly and not come with lame excuses like in the weezy thread?

 

[c.b.b.]

Lol back when jay-z rapped like "i diggedy done this i diggedy done that"

lol, yeah he was wack as hell.

Rapping like Fu Schikens and Das Efx back in '94

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Because Jay-Z is not an artist, he is an imitator. He has to wait for a trend to develop so he can follow it. He observes a formula and then he applies it. He sees who's hot in the game and he latches on to them for success.

Case & Point:

The criminal tales Jay-Z was spittin on Reasonable Doubt wasn't his lane previous to that album. "I Can't Get With That" nor "Da Graveyard" were anything like "D'Evils". It's not until you heard stuff like G Rap's "4, 5, 6", Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" etc, did you hear him follow suit. Nas did the same, however, What makes him different from so many others was that he was invited into it. He was on G Rap's album, as well as AZ's "Doe Or Die" on "Mo Money, Mo Murder, Mo Homocide" which began The Firm. Jay just jumped in like he was everybody else.

Diddy was dancin' around all dumb with bright videos and flashy gimmicks so Jay-Z made "Sunshine". Ruff Ryders came around and started deadin' that shiny suit shit and Jay-Z released "Money Cash Hoes" ft. DMX. When Hot Boys got play in 99, Jay invited Juvenile to do the hoot on "Snoopy Track". So on and so forth. To answer your question Jay-Z adapts to the times by emulating whatever is popular. He doesn't create anything. So it's not that he's a late bloomer, he just needs something popular to feed off of.

This and nothing else. Case closed.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

Would you rather be underpaid or overrated?

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Would you rather be underpaid or overrated?

the latter

 

[KeepinItHundred]

Would you rather be underpaid or overrated?

thats more like it.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

hard to put out a classic when u dont have a deal.

 

[darkrain]

Because Jay-Z is not an artist, he is an imitator. He has to wait for a trend to develop so he can follow it. He observes a formula and then he applies it. He sees who's hot in the game and he latches on to them for success.

Case & Point:

The criminal tales Jay-Z was spittin on Reasonable Doubt wasn't his lane previous to that album. "I Can't Get With That" nor "Da Graveyard" were anything like "D'Evils". It's not until you heard stuff like G Rap's "4, 5, 6", Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" etc, did you hear him follow suit. Nas did the same, however, What makes him different from so many others was that he was invited into it. He was on G Rap's album, as well as AZ's "Doe Or Die" on "Mo Money, Mo Murder, Mo Homocide" which began The Firm. Jay just jumped in like he was everybody else.

Diddy was dancin' around all dumb with bright videos and flashy gimmicks so Jay-Z made "Sunshine". Ruff Ryders came around and started deadin' that shiny suit shit and Jay-Z released "Money Cash Hoes" ft. DMX. When Hot Boys got play in 99, Jay invited Juvenile to do the hoot on "Snoopy Track". So on and so forth. To answer your question Jay-Z adapts to the times by emulating whatever is popular. He doesn't create anything. So it's not that he's a late bloomer, he just needs something popular to feed off of.

YOU NAILED IT. I always said that shit to everyone.

To OP, I don't think his age has nothing to do with it, he's just not ready.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

JokerzWyld post sums it up

 

[CoolJoe]

all these other emcees were putting out classics in their early 20s, or teen years(mobb deep)

did jay just need to watch and learn to gain pointers?

What is the premise of the thread? I mean regardless he is still top 5 ever, regardless.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Because Jay-Z is not an artist, he is an imitator. He has to wait for a trend to develop so he can follow it. He observes a formula and then he applies it. He sees who's hot in the game and he latches on to them for success.

Case & Point:

The criminal tales Jay-Z was spittin on Reasonable Doubt wasn't his lane previous to that album. "I Can't Get With That" nor "Da Graveyard" were anything like "D'Evils". It's not until you heard stuff like G Rap's "4, 5, 6", Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" etc, did you hear him follow suit. Nas did the same, however, What makes him different from so many others was that he was invited into it. He was on G Rap's album, as well as AZ's "Doe Or Die" on "Mo Money, Mo Murder, Mo Homocide" which began The Firm. Jay just jumped in like he was everybody else.

Diddy was dancin' around all dumb with bright videos and flashy gimmicks so Jay-Z made "Sunshine". Ruff Ryders came around and started deadin' that shiny suit shit and Jay-Z released "Money Cash Hoes" ft. DMX. When Hot Boys got play in 99, Jay invited Juvenile to do the hoot on "Snoopy Track". So on and so forth. To answer your question Jay-Z adapts to the times by emulating whatever is popular. He doesn't create anything. So it's not that he's a late bloomer, he just needs something popular to feed off of.

What the Homie said. Not to mention dude just wasn't that Nice. We are talking about a time when Brooklyn was spitting out MC's like automatic weapons. Boot Camp, Bush Babies,Special Ed,Cella dwellas,Das EFX,Jeru, group home etc etc. It took some one like dame to beg scratch and claw to get him on. Even with Big Daddy Kane, Jazo, (this is the late 80's very early 90's mind you) and Irv giving him burn time he didn't have a buzz, hype or anything close to it. He just wasn't nice on the Mic. Therefor no one was checking for him.

 

[Kwan Dai]

50 cent was 27 when get rich or die tryin dropped

The game was 26 when the documentary dropped

Jay electronic is 34 and his album hasnt dropped

J cole is 26 and his album hasnt dropped

Kanye west was 26 when college dropout dropped

em was 26 when slim shady lp dropped

big pun was 27 when capitol punishment dropped

All were older or the exact same age as jigga when rd dropped

And we could argue all day about these artist releasing Classic albums and material as well. All popular? Sure!. Classic? Standing the test of time? Ground breaking? I don't think so.

 

[coolc31]

He told you Bee High hated the fact he put rap to the back. I don't think anyone can honestly answer this question besides Jay or someone that was close to him during his pre-Reasonable Doubt days. I do know once he got his foot in the door he didn't let up. I don't think he did too bad for a dude that couldn't make it as some of you say. You should ask why all his peers aren't in his position since they started so young.

 

[KeepinItHundred]

Dmx was 27 when its dark and hell is hot dropped

And every person I named was/is jay z peers and were 26 or older when they dropped a classic album

back to the drawin board wit your jigga hate

his true peers are g-rap rakim and big daddy kane, he's as old as them.