Why is there such a big distortion between the real world and the IC?

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jamacia;740589 said:
Most of that stuff was shit that was popping in the west coast and none of that has anything to do with the music of that album, Snoop was real popular around 92-94.

ok it might've been big on the west, but it was limited on the east........until doggystyle

he fact of the matter is with Doggystyle, snoop was bought into hip hop history.....Doggystyle was a hip hop event...........yo can put on Gin and Juice, Doggy Dogg World.....Murder was the case....and people know the words like its 93 all over again........

niggas on the east bumped the chronic and some people bit the style of music, but When doggystyle came out, niggas WANTED To be snoop....there is a difference.....his music had affect in hip hop OFF the record.......

lets not forget here.......hip hop is a culture, not just a music......snoop put his stamp on hip hop as Run DMC made Addias popular, just as slick rick did with heavy gold chains......Just how wu tang made every other hood on the east coast spray paint some type of "W" in the street and reinforced niggas watchin karate flicks.............

Doggystyle is hip hop history.........snoop sucks lyrically, but u cant take his impact away from the game.......
 
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^^I think you can say Snoop started doing all that on The Chronic tho bruh

biggar;740604 said:
Maybe not in entertainment, but damn sure in lyricism.

Entertainment>>>Lyricism

Thats how Hip Hop took over that #1 spot.
 
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new account2;740625 said:
ok it might've been big on the west, but it was limited on the east........until doggystyle

he fact of the matter is with Doggystyle, snoop was bought into hip hop history.....Doggystyle was a hip hop event...........yo can put on Gin and Juice, Doggy Dogg World.....Murder was the case....and people know the words like its 93 all over again........

niggas on the east bumped the chronic and some people bit the style of music, but When doggystyle came out, niggas WANTED To be snoop....there is a difference.....his music had affect in hip hop OFF the record.......

lets not forget here.......hip hop is a culture, not just a music......snoop put his stamp on hip hop as Run DMC made Addias popular, just as slick rick did with heavy gold chains......Just how wu tang made every other hood on the east coast spray paint some type of "W" in the street and reinforced niggas watchin karate flicks.............

Doggystyle is hip hop history.........snoop sucks lyrically, but u cant take his impact away from the game.......

I'm not taking anything away from Snoop the only thing I'm saying was that the album didn't change how niggas rapped, it didn't change how niggas made their songs or anything, it was just an entertaining album, Tha Chronic laid the foundation for Snoop.
 
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hlf;740634 said:
^^I think you can say Snoop started doing all that on The Chronic tho bruh

Entertainment>>>Lyricism

Thats how Hip Hop took over that #1 spot.

Straight up I remember laughing at that album and the skits on it, and even the little comic on the tape cover. I loved that album. Classic shit

But as a genuine fan of Hip Hop I say lyricism trumps all.
 
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hlf;740634 said:
^^I think you can say Snoop started doing all that on The Chronic tho bruh

Entertainment>>>Lyricism

Thats how Hip Hop took over that #1 spot.

he did, but after doggystyle, snoop made niggas want to be him..........it just boosted his popularity

Snoop didnt push the envelope musically as much as the other albums......but it had so much impact off the cd that its classic alone.....

"I'm sittin in the crib dreaming, about lear jets and coupes/The way Salt shoops/or how to sell records like snoop"- Biggie

Classic albums tend to be "Events"........shit you say "damn, I remember when".......and how it had an affect on hip hop......doggystle did......... however, Reasonable doubt had no affect on hip hop in any way, on record or off record......if you like that album, cool, I like it too, but it wasnt an "Event" like these other albums were....no chain reactions.....nothing...it was just a good album........

giving reasonable doubt the classic status is like the NBA going and giving Kobe the rookie of the year award in 96 cause he won 4 championships later on in his career.......
 
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new account2;740702 said:
he did, but after doggystyle, snoop made niggas want to be him..........it just boosted his popularity

Snoop didnt push the envelope musically as much as the other albums......but it had so much impact off the cd that its classic alone.....

"I'm sittin in the crib dreaming, about lear jets and coupes/The way Salt shoops/or how to sell records like snoop"- Biggie

Classic albums tend to be "Events"........shit you say "damn, I remember when".......and how it had an affect on hip hop......doggystle did......... however, Reasonable doubt had no affect on hip hop in any way, on record or off record......if you like that album, cool, I like it too, but it wasnt an "Event" like these other albums were....no chain reactions.....nothing...it was just a good album........

giving reasonable doubt the classic status is like the NBA going and giving Kobe the rookie of the year award in 96 cause he won 4 championships later on in his career.......

Reasonable Doubt is definitely classic status. It just took a couple years for people to catch on. Truthfully I was fucking with Jay since Can't Knock the Hustle.
 
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new account2;740702 said:
he did, but after doggystyle, snoop made niggas want to be him..........it just boosted his popularity

Snoop didnt push the envelope musically as much as the other albums......but it had so much impact off the cd that its classic alone.....

"I'm sittin in the crib dreaming, about lear jets and coupes/The way Salt shoops/or how to sell records like snoop"- Biggie

Classic albums tend to be "Events"........shit you say "damn, I remember when".......and how it had an affect on hip hop......doggystle did......... however, Reasonable doubt had no affect on hip hop in any way, on record or off record......if you like that album, cool, I like it too, but it wasnt an "Event" like these other albums were....no chain reactions.....nothing...it was just a good album........

giving reasonable doubt the classic status is like the NBA going and giving Kobe the rookie of the year award in 96 cause he won 4 championships later on in his career.......

lol Im actually one of the few on this site who agree with you on RD.
 
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hlf;740764 said:
lol Im actually one of the few on this site who agree with you on RD.

LOL my bad yo..........I was actually aiming that at the other people in the thread

and to the tohers, what makes RD a classic???
 
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hlf;740764 said:
lol Im actually one of the few on this site who agree with you on RD.

I second that........ niggas on here swear the God RD was classic....... how can u say a album was a classic and it had impact and change the game....

When u was allowed to music with cursing in it........in 96......Jay-Z was nobody..... well at least in my parts......

up until recently...... nobody ever named Jay-Z Reasonable Doubts album a classic or even highly rated that album.....

in the last few years......after Jay-Z said he only have 2-3 classic niggas said RD was classic.......

and these lil kids.....who just made 17-18-19-20........ u cant tell me RD was a classic....shit came out when u was 7-8-9-10 years old

Fuck u talking about..........
 
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new account2;740794 said:
LOL my bad yo..........I was actually aiming that at the other people in the thread

and to the tohers, what makes RD a classic???

IMO tracks like "Can I Live" "Feelin It" "Dead Presidents" "Bring It On" "Brooklyns Finest" "Regrets" "Cant Knock The Hustle" "Cashmere Thoughts"

the lyricism, the beats etc
 
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new account2;740794 said:
LOL my bad yo..........I was actually aiming that at the other people in the thread

and to the tohers, what makes RD a classic???

the fact that you dont need to skim thru any tracks... but thats just MY opinion haha I dont wanna sound snobby
 
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96 was tupacz yr thatz y nobody pay'd attention 2 RD till yrz later nas also drop'd 'it was written' 2 n 96 that made way mo noise then RD..,
 
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water ur seeds;740818 said:
the fact that you dont need to skim thru any tracks... but thats just MY opinion haha I dont wanna sound snobby

that sounds like an album you liked more than a classic.....no disrespect
 
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biggar;740808 said:
IMO tracks like "Can I Live" "Feelin It" "Dead Presidents" "Bring It On" "Brooklyns Finest" "Regrets" "Cant Knock The Hustle" "Cashmere Thoughts"
the lyricism, the beats etc

all great songs but what did they do for hip hop and the game as a whole???
 
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gee757;740836 said:
96 was tupacz yr thatz y nobody pay'd attention 2 RD till yrz later nas also drop'd 'it was written' 2 n 96 that made way mo noise then RD..,

All Eyez On Me, Me Againist The World & The 7 Day Theory Album's are better than any Jay Z Album

2pac was a far better Song Writer than Jay Z and actually had content in his Lyrics with emotion but also 2pac made Hit's he had Song's that reached number One on the Chart but for the most part 2pac was a talented Writer while Jay Z is just a Rapper with a decent Flow
 
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hrap-120;737260 said:
He made a valid observation.

I can promise you Pun's posts on HipHop are more valuable than most peoples on this site.

On the flipside why is a man in a tropical paradise like Florida on a college campus concerned about a HipHop forum??

Shouldnt your life be about bangin' coeds?

walking on the beach??

studying and doing homework?

getting comfortable with your new white friends that love lyrics

keeping in touch with your Black friends that love krunk

drinking a Chai latte with a foreign exchange student from Venezuela

....but instead you wanna write a biography and question the Punisher???



kinda suspect.

lmao.. theres too many posts in here to read em all but wat ive seen every1 gotts sum good points.. i dont be on here tryin to get every1 to become eminem fans.. i just go to a thread, read it, n post my opinion on it.. never take this internet shit personal.. some niggas on here wanna be "right" so bad that they try to find ways for everyone else to be wrong.. or they like an artist none of their friends like so they come on here n try to recruit new fans for them or bash anyone who likes sum1 they dislike.. idk this threads confusing yall r gettin in ur chests a lil to much..
 
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i been on ahh since 2002...got into the net thing (yahoo chats, AIM, all that shit) around that time...and the main thing i learned is most of these people are not normal. they might seem like it at first, but u find out a lot of these ppl are antisocial outcasts and if u met em in real life u'd be like 'da fuck is his problem??'...thats why i dont fuck wit the net much these days wit all the twitter/facebook shit...but u cant put too much value in ppl's opinions that u see on here, cuz they usually dont speak for the normal population. u made some good points tho...but i just look at the internet for ways to get put on new music u prob wouldnt have without it...its some nerdy elitist shit to think all rappers should sound like lupe.... love slaughterhouse and distant relatives all week long but i love rick ross and jeezy on a fri/sat night. bitches dont shake ass to nas in the strip club....
 
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reef hustle_ahh;740932 said:
i been on ahh since 2002...got into the net thing (yahoo chats, AIM, all that shit) around that time...and the main thing i learned is most of these people are not normal. they might seem like it at first, but u find out a lot of these ppl are antisocial outcasts and if u met em in real life u'd be like 'da fuck is his problem??'...thats why i dont fuck wit the net much these days wit all the twitter/facebook shit...but u cant put too much value in ppl's opinions that u see on here, cuz they usually dont speak for the normal population. u made some good points tho...but i just look at the internet for ways to get put on new music u prob wouldnt have without it...its some nerdy elitist shit to think all rappers should sound like lupe.... love slaughterhouse and distant relatives all week long but i love rick ross and jeezy on a fri/sat night. bitches dont shake ass to nas in the strip club....

lol I remember you. You hvnt missed much homie
 
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7thwardslim;740803 said:
I second that........ niggas on here swear the God RD was classic....... how can u say a album was a classic and it had impact and change the game....

When u was allowed to music with cursing in it........in 96......Jay-Z was nobody..... well at least in my parts......

up until recently...... nobody ever named Jay-Z Reasonable Doubts album a classic or even highly rated that album.....

in the last few years......after Jay-Z said he only have 2-3 classic niggas said RD was classic.......

and these lil kids.....who just made 17-18-19-20........ u cant tell me RD was a classic....shit came out when u was 7-8-9-10 years old

Fuck u talking about..........

It might be possible that some people are influenced to say its a classic because so many people say its a classic....
 
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