Why is there such a big distortion between the real world and the IC?

[Punisher__]

I live on the border of Southeast DC, and I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard one person bump an Eminem record...and I've been here all my life.

And I think it's because we, as in residents of urban-city areas, do NOT relate to his bullshit content.

Now here, you'll hear people bump Jay, Nas, Biggie, and the like...because these are the artists that represent US, and they shed/or did shed light on the atrocities that go on in the hood...voices of the hood.

Eminem can't speak to us, because he doesn't make music for us. And as a result, we don't bump his shit.

 

[ShadyTeam]

I live on the border of Southeast DC, and I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard one person bump an Eminem record...and I've been here all my life.

And I think it's because we, as in residents of urban-city areas, do NOT relate to his bullshit content.

Now here, you'll hear people bump Jay, Nas, Biggie, and the like...because these are the artists that represent US, and they shed/or did shed light on the atrocities that go on in the hood...voices of the hood.

Eminem can't speak to us, because he doesn't make music for us. And as a result, we don't bump his shit.

Moral of the story is you can't speak for every hood

I wanna see you go to Press Road Estate, South Kilburn Estate, South Acton Estate, Stonebridge Estate, World's End Estate, Warwick Estate and tell a black teenager (15-19) who hustles not to bump Eminem and see what happens lol

Not even trying to be funny but you are just clueless and will be in for a huge shock if you really believe the things you type

 

[ShadyTeam]

Very true, To this day I still hear people bumping "Life After Death", "All eyez on me", "The Chronic", "OB4CL", I've even heard "Paid in Full" being bumped on one occassion. But I have yet to walk/drive down the street and hear ANYBODY listening to 'Illmatic' or 'Reasonable Doubt'. Never rly was that big a fan of RD, but I personally love 'Illmatic'. But how can you call an album an unquestionable classic if the maority of rap fans don't even listen to it?

Cos the reality is people do not really bump Jay Z like that not out here anyway why would people bump Jay Z when they can bump Styles P?

2pac gets bumped more than Nas

The thing is people say Eminem is not relatable but just cos an IC internet nerd can't relate doesn't mean millions of people worldwide can't the fact is Eminem makes Music for the average poor person and connects with his fan's

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Cos the reality is people do not really bump Jay Z like that not out here anyway why would people bump Jay Z when they can bump Styles P?

2pac gets bumped more than Nas

The thing is people say Eminem is not relatable but just cos an IC internet nerd can't relate doesn't mean millions of people worldwide can't the fact is Eminem makes Music for the average poor person and connects with his fan's

I think Pac gets bumped more than anyone. I have yet to meet a rap fan who didn't have at least one Pac song (Usually "Changes" or "Dear Mama" if just one). Eminem may have sold the most rap records, but maybe it's just that Pac's fans download

 

[Punisher__]

Moral of the story is you can't speak for every hood

I wanna see you go to Press Road Estate, South Kilburn Estate, South Acton Estate, Stonebridge Estate, World's End Estate, Warwick Estate and tell a black teenager (15-19) who hustles not to bump Eminem and see what happens lol

Not even trying to be funny but you are just clueless and will be in for a huge shock if you really believe the things you type

Who said I was trying to speak for every hood?

Not only are you a loony tune, but your reading skills are poor, too.

 

[UPTOWN]

Damn If I have not said a lot of these things a 1000 times, even from a industry standpoint anyone with any non biased position Knows that making Reasonable Doubt a "Classic" is revisionist history and done because Jigga is Now the Black Face of HipHop, while then he was not remarkable and did not standout amongst his peers...

so what about illmatic then ??

LOL this logic is all wrong

 

[UPTOWN]

Cos the reality is people do not really bump Jay Z like that not out here anyway why would people bump Jay Z when they can bump Styles P?

2pac gets bumped more than Nas

The thing is people say Eminem is not relatable but just cos an IC internet nerd can't relate doesn't mean millions of people worldwide can't the fact is Eminem makes Music for the average poor person and connects with his fan's

wrong wrong WRONG LMAO

more people on avg listen to jay z than styles p ... STYLES P WILL TELL YOU THIS LOL !!

me personally ... i have three mixtapes in my mp3 right now

styles p green ghost project
jadakiss champ is here 3
and wu massacre (as of right now)

first off all your repetitive eminem logic is wrong. ive never been to the uk, but if what your saying is true then the reason why you are having this "problem" in your internet debates is because your are arguing apples against oranges. in the states ... people who live in the inner city (the hood) DO NOT LISTEN TO EMINEMS MUSIC AS A MAINSTAY IN THEIR MUSIC DIET. here's what you may not understand

the inner city IS THE MINORITY IN THE AMERICAN POPULATION. there are over 400 million white people and like 40 million blacks and about another 60 - 80 million latinos and other ethnicities. BUT WHEN YOU SPEAK OF "THE HOOD" YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BLACKS AND LATINOS.

NOW.... when you speak of the hood, understand that the hood is not all teens and young adults who listen to rap. there are elders (ages 40 and up) and there are kids who dont consume music (they just watch 106 and park etc and get their musical experiences from that for the most part, but they arent even into music on a consumption level)
now out of all those who do fit in the catagory that would possibly listen to eminem, 66 percent of them ARE BLACK AND LATINO WOMEN ... do you honestly think that when i go out on dates with these women ... we drive to the movies or what have you listening to eminem?? LOL .... no ... they listen to r n b for the most part. other than that they listen to the most popular artists who are hood orientated (jayz jeezy TI etc) ... why??? BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF MEN THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO. have you ever heard guys rant about the women in the hood?? how they only date guys with certain "swag" or they have to have a bmw or some kind of street cred etc?? if not ... go to the GNS and read one of the daily threads LOL

its is a known FACT that in the states the majority of rap music is purchased by young white males ages 18 - 24. THIS IS AN IRREFUTABLE FACT. if you have sold multi platinum ... 80 - 90% of your albums were purchased by WHITES ... the hood is majority black people

now lets think this thru ...

if you sold say for the sake of the discussion ... 10 million albums .... 8 million of those were bought by whites HANDS DOWN. not many whites live in the hood

lets say that each and every copy of the remaining 2 million was purchased by a black kid who lives right in the center of the hood (which we know is not true but just hear me out)

ok cool ....

NYC has 8 million residents alone!! what about LA, DETROIT, ATL, HOUSTON, OAKLAND, PHILLY, MIAMI, CHICAGO, VA, NEW ORLEANS, AND THE HUNDRED OTHER CITIES I CAN NAME WITH KNOWN HOODS IN THEM ??? i just named ten cities

2 million divided by 10 is 200,000

but keep in mind that 200,000 would represent EVERYONE WHO BUYS ALBUMS PERIOD IN THAT CITY, and this is me giving you the benefit of the doubt .. i only considered 10 cities out of hundreds ... now with the example i gave, how many of th m can actually be eminem fans ... how many of them could actually be jay z fans?? and so on

the fact is, most rap music is consumed BY PEOPLE WHO HAVENT BEEN THRU WHAT THE ARTIST IS TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE WHO WANT A WINDOW INTO THE THINGS THEY HAVENT EXPERIENCED. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND ... YOU GOT IT TWISTED

now in the hood, if you dont buy music ... then you have to have other sources to get your music ... internet, bootlegs, mixtapes etc

take the most popular mixtape dj's you can think of. now look at their last ten mixtapes and tell me how many eminem songs are on them ?? LOL

people in the hood in the states know who eminem is and have heard his music ... but it is more then true that eminem is not a part of the normal music diet in the hood ... that is really true ... its not some "internet nerd" just saying that, its actually true LOL

listen to any urban orientated radio station ... they play all the basic aspects of the urban music diet ... you will rarely hear eminem on there ....
DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH THEY PLAY "NEW YORK JAY -Z FT ALICIA" ??

MUCH MORE THAN THEY PLAY DRAKE FT EMINEM (the song they made for lebron) ... they do play that song, and it does have eminem on it... but the contrast from one to the other is like day and night LOL

 

[Punisher__]

Damn.... if she dont get it after this then... "She's gone forever" (Jay-Z Tone)

She still won't get it.

She can't be rationalized because she's too irrational...and delusional.

 

[blackrain]

I live on the border of Southeast DC, and I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard one person bump an Eminem record...and I've been here all my life.

And I think it's because we, as in residents of urban-city areas, do NOT relate to his bullshit content.

Now here, you'll hear people bump Jay, Nas, Biggie, and the like...because these are the artists that represent US, and they shed/or did shed light on the atrocities that go on in the hood...voices of the hood.

Eminem can't speak to us, because he doesn't make music for us. And as a result, we don't bump his shit.

I've lived in DC my entire life too and I know plenty of Eminem fans that live in DC...I remember when the Marshal Mathers LP came out and people were talking about that damn cd everywhere shit I even went to the Up In Smoke Tour concert when it came to DC in Summer 2001 and Eminem got some of the biggest reactions that night and when he did Stan the crowd got just as loud as they did for when Snoop and Dre came out......those songs had people talking about Eminem and not only how nuts the content was, but lyrically how nuts that album is too...THAT album was an event when it dropped...

 

[Ajax McJones]

eminem has black fans, there is no getting around that

the majority of his fans are white? yeah thats true,

but thats true for every popular rapper out there

Lupe

Jay-Z

Nas

Wu-tang

all hav mainly white fans

even gucci jezy ross

hav mainly white fans

you will never have more black fans than white in hip hop

 

[Treize117]

I've lived in DC my entire life too and I know plenty of Eminem fans that live in DC...I remember when the Marshal Mathers LP came out and people were talking about that damn cd everywhere shit I even went to the Up In Smoke Tour concert when it came to DC in Summer 2001 and Eminem got some of the biggest reactions that night and when he did Stan the crowd got just as loud as they did for when Snoop and Dre came out......those songs had people talking about Eminem and not only how nuts the content was, but lyrically how nuts that album is too...THAT album was an event when it dropped...

Co sign

but the artists i hear most niggaz bumpin in DC are Gucci, Jeezy, Wayne...i remember goin to Georgia Ave. day and a couple years ago and every nigga wit a system was bangin the Carter 3

 

[hrap-120]

damn.... If she dont get it after this then... "she's gone forever" (jay-z tone)

lmbao______

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

People swear on the IC black people or mixed people who are mixed with black & white don't listen to Eminem

But i know dudes that live in some of the most notorious Housing Estates out here (Projects for Americans) that not only bump Eminem they actually actually own his records and don't think twice about bumping him and these ain't people not affiliated with the hood lifestyle either they are small time/mid level trappers

So to an extent of course certain IC posters aren't realistic cos i witnessed things H Rap, Fazeem, Genstasia, Jamaica say that don't happen

I swear to god i never heard anyone in the hood here bump Reasonable Doubt or Illmatic but people do bump The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP & The Eminem Show

People will laugh at you if you even mention Joe Budden here no one ever will even think about listening to him and i am talking about black people who hustle green and white and are from the hood

In order for what you are saying in this post to be true you would be saying that we do not believe there are Black Sellouts aka Uncle Ruckuses for you youngsters. There will alway be House Niggaz that Love White People more then black., then you have those Ignorant Coons who make minstrels of themselve love stupidity and hate Knowledge Who Bump whatever "Sounds Hot in the Whip" who love the mainstream and antything in it. That said I never said there are not Black people who Like Eminem just that they are Detrimental and not the norm in our communities...

 

[MAKAVELI25]

In order for what you are saying in this post to be true you would be saying that we do not believe there are Black Sellouts aka Uncle Ruckuses for you youngsters. There will alway be House Niggaz that Love White People more then black., then you have those Ignorant Coons who make minstrels of themselve love stupidity and hate Knowledge Who Bump whatever "Sounds Hot in the Whip" who love the mainstream and antything in it. That said I never said there are not Black people who Like Eminem just that they are Detrimental and not the norm in our communities...

So, anyone who likes Eminem is a detriment to the black community? Calling you delusional would be an understatement

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

So, anyone who likes Eminem is a detriment to the black community? Calling you delusional would be an understatement

A different type of detriment then those that love Gucci but still a detriment and in alot of way worse, I feel the same about Brotha Lynch fans but that is another discussion...

 

[UPTOWN]

eminem has black fans, there is no getting around that

the majority of his fans are white? yeah thats true,
but thats true for every popular rapper out there

Lupe
Jay-Z
Nas
Wu-tang
all hav mainly white fans

even gucci jezy ross

hav mainly white fans

you will never have more black fans than white in hip hop

thank you ... someone finally posts with some sense

but the main point is the inner city usually goes with that up and coming guy ... or that successful rapper when he was on the come up. urban culture is in the forefront of hip hop ... not the back end .... you have to make it in there first to become the "next big thing" in the main stream .... even the drakes and kayne's

and this is my point ... the "hood" or inner city knows who drake is and has heard his music ... maybe because he's new or what ever ... but he gets bumped in the hood more than eminem or jay z or nas etc ... but eventually .. they move on to the next one.

what makes jay z and nas legends is because even tho theyve had commercial success, the hood still checks for them when they drop hoping that they will atleast a have a few bangers on there .. there arent too many artists that are in that catagory ... eminem being one of them

 

[Treize117]

So, anyone who likes Eminem is a detriment to the black community? Calling you delusional would be an understatement

Niggas on here really be on some other shit...

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

People in the hood listen to weak ass music,and always have I wish not to converse with people with such bad taste

 

[Ajax McJones]

I've lived in DC my entire life too and I know plenty of Eminem fans that live in DC...I remember when the Marshal Mathers LP came out and people were talking about that damn cd everywhere shit I even went to the Up In Smoke Tour concert when it came to DC in Summer 2001 and Eminem got some of the biggest reactions that night and when he did Stan the crowd got just as loud as they did for when Snoop and Dre came out......those songs had people talking about Eminem and not only how nuts the content was, but lyrically how nuts that album is too...THAT album was an event when it dropped...

Ablert "Rugar" Johnson!!!!

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Put this in the hall of fame