why is krs afraid of canibus?

[Old Fart]

Down down, I'm with you dirty go head and lay down
Finance a pay-down, heard what I said now?
See how I procede with caution
My whip crack fast all you niggas is horses
Randy Moss', I play when I wanna
Nut check, gut check, 'cause I say what I wanna
Around six in the six with the throwback
Sixers, number six Julius Irv'
Cris and the herb, make it hard to swirve
Throw your hands up; if you didn't bang your rim on the curb
You couldn't hit while you was making a turn
I strike a nerve and old MC's wantin a comeback
I got repsect but it's lost and that's a fact
Like K - "Know" one here even said your name
R - You really feeling guilty bout something mayn
S - Sad to see you really just want just
One - more hit please please!
You the first old man who should get a rapper's pension
No hit since the cordless mic invention
Snitching? Matter fact stay the fuck out the kitchen
Nelly cookin with too many dimensions
Mid west, and we aim about mid chest
Duked on my side, too many in my tribe
Coupe outside who the fuck want a ride?

This was Nelly's phenomenal diss..OHHHHHHHHH daaaaamn! This shit was sick...

LOL they swear that shit was waaaaaaaaay iller than this...

that was a nice try nelly, i dont mean to be bold
but that put that "hot hmm hrr" bullshit on hold
and lets get down to the facts of the matter
in a dictionary, under "wack rap" you the rapper
simply cause youre lackin the spectacular binocular
and hiphops character seems to be in back of ya
either that, or youre truly amateur, im askin ya
how does it feel to have the whole world laughin at ya
you just too stupid to see
i was made on the streets, you was made on M-T-V
how you gonna talk about my nodes to attack me
when you steady guzzlin them pills for your acne
my nodes come from a line of kings
your acne comes from you eatin the wrong things
your words dont make me hurt they make me work
youll hurt when you find its you gettin jerked
i tell ya, it dont take me to say
dont buy ya album, street cats aint buyin it anyway
you tellin me make up my mind
yet on your album you dont know if you wanna sing or rhyme​

 

[T. Sanford]

what I dont get is how Krs-zero was so quick & amp to diss Nelly, yet Canibus call him out on some battling shss, he renigging.

That coward always talking about hip hop is a art, battling & shss, but scared jump up on Canibus like he did Nelly (at which he lost that battle too)

.........................................

 

[Old Fart]

and this one ...

You trying to diss me? how
if it wasnt for the true school, your bitchass wouldnt be here now
blao blao, show me respect from the gate
or imma have to drown you kids like Angia Yates
you cant handle a break
im a flamethrower, you a Bic lighter
you think im cocky cause you a dickrider
i spit tighter, im not like all the rest
im not a playa but i did stay at a holiday inn express
so nevertheless im gonna teach ya teacher
but when them slugs hit ya, youll be screamin momma "i Yi i Yi"
you never seen me sing?
you dont know what i bring?
youll be singin the blues like BB King
im all about the unity of miss and mistas
you all about grabbin money and dissin our sistas
take your ass back to TV land
and let this be a lesson, you can't see me man

just when i thought i could do my gospel, and become an apostle
i gotta hold and get hostile
i dont mean to knock you nelly
but aint you that MTV house nigga wit a smile like jelly?
imma do this by the book, for the art
i heard what you said on BET's 106 and park
but what you dont know, is right around the corner of third
i hold a desert eagle, and no its not a bird
you sound absurd, you gonna bring me back
i taught all year round the spot, B pat
you copycat, with sloppy raps
you chill with N'sync, i chill where hiphop be at

 

[Disciplined InSight]

LOL they swear that shit was waaaaaaaaay iller than this...

that was a nice try nelly, i dont mean to be bold
but that put that "hot hmm hrr" bullshit on hold
and lets get down to the facts of the matter
in a dictionary, under "wack rap" you the rapper
simply cause youre lackin the spectacular binocular
and hiphops character seems to be in back of ya
either that, or youre truly amateur, im askin ya
how does it feel to have the whole world laughin at ya
you just too stupid to see
i was made on the streets, you was made on M-T-V
how you gonna talk about my nose to attack me
when you steady guzzlin them pills for your acne
my nose come from a line of kings
your acne comes from you eatin the wrong things
your words dont make me hurt they make me work
youll hurt when you find its you gettin jerked
i tell ya, it dont take me to say
dont buy ya album, street cats aint buyin it anyway
you tellin me make up my mind
yet on your album you dont know if you wanna sing or rhyme​

LMAO @ niggas thinking Nelly bodying anything LYRICALLY..it's clearly evident. Now I admit KRS was on the wrong playing field (commercialism) but lyric-wise KRS spoke truth in the bolded, because...

Street cats aren't feeling Nelly.
Even though that's his style that nigga really ain't emceeing..he singing...i.e. his new song "Just A Dream" might as well be a R & B joint. Bone Thugs did more rhyming that him.
Nelly isn't selling like he use to...he's fussing at Motown now about it.

 

[Nah Son]

man it's that new era of thinking when it comes to young hip-hop fans. They judge EVERYTHNG hip-hop related to sells instead of based on skill. Just look at the board topics...usually always something about first week sells and shit like that.

You can't mention KRS on these boards without someone mentioning Nelly based strictly on the strength of the records he sold to his pop crowd who couldn't care less about who is really lyrically better...they just wanna dance to the e-i-e-i-o stuff. Nelly said just a few bars going at KRS's age that weren't even dope and KRS went at Nelly with a few songs that straight up smashed Nelly skill wise. But these kids siding with Nelly only mention the sells as a barometer for who won and who lost. Tell a kid to google KRS's and Nelly's bars in that 'battle' and have them say with a straight face that Nelly was doper and they can't do that. Instead they'll make some corny joke about KRS's age, nose, etc and then say 'well Nelly won because he sold more'

These fans don't understand the dynamics of a rap battle and they confuse it with outside things that don't matter. A battle is scored right then and there based of who spit the illest shit. It aint about waiting months later to determine who sold more. They don't understand that shit man.

Realest post I've read in a while..Cosign to the fullest.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

and this one ...

You trying to diss me? how
if it wasnt for the true school, your bitchass wouldnt be here now
blao blao, show me respect from the gate
or imma have to drown you kids like Angia Yates
you cant handle a break
im a flamethrower, you a Bic lighter
you think im cocky cause you a dickrider
i spit tighter, im not like all the rest
im not a playa but i did stay at a holiday inn express
so nevertheless im gonna teach ya teacher
but when them slugs hit ya, youll be screamin momma "i Yi i Yi"
you never seen me sing?
you dont know what i bring?
youll be singin the blues like BB King
im all about the unity of miss and mistas
you all about grabbin money and dissin our sistas
take your ass back to TV land
and let this be a lesson, you can't see me man

just when i thought i could do my gospel, and become an apostle
i gotta hold and get hostile
i dont mean to knock you nelly
but aint you that MTV house nigga wit a smile like jelly?
imma do this by the book, for the art
i heard what you said on BET's 106 and park
but what you dont know, is right around the corner of third
i hold a desert eagle, and no its not a bird
you sound absurd, you gonna bring me back
i taught all year round the spot, B pat
you copycat, with sloppy raps
you chill with N'sync, i chill where hiphop be at

Remember the backlash from the "Tip Drill" video?
I know man... you can't break anything down with some of these dudes. Their minds been desensitized...

 

[dalyricalbandit]

bis is over bis is over biddy-bye-bye!
Bis is over bis is over hey hey

 

[T. Sanford]

and this one ...

You trying to diss me? how

if it wasnt for the true school, your bitchass wouldnt be here now

blao blao, show me respect from the gate

or imma have to drown you kids like Angia Yates

you cant handle a break

im a flamethrower, you a Bic lighter

you think im cocky cause you a dickrider

i spit tighter, im not like all the rest

im not a playa but i did stay at a holiday inn express

so nevertheless im gonna teach ya teacher

but when them slugs hit ya, youll be screamin momma "i Yi i Yi"

you never seen me sing?

you dont know what i bring?

youll be singin the blues like BB King

im all about the unity of miss and mistas

you all about grabbin money and dissin our sistas

take your ass back to TV land

and let this be a lesson, you can't see me man

just when i thought i could do my gospel, and become an apostle

i gotta hold and get hostile

i dont mean to knock you nelly

but aint you that MTV house nigga wit a smile like jelly?

imma do this by the book, for the art

i heard what you said on BET's 106 and park

but what you dont know, is right around the corner of third

i hold a desert eagle, and no its not a bird

you sound absurd, you gonna bring me back

i taught all year round the spot, B pat

you copycat, with sloppy raps

you chill with N'sync, i chill where hiphop be at

mediocre diss & the smile like jelly is one of the wackest lines i heard in a diss song

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Something has got me wondering..who really started that shit?.....when it comes to battles that sells not skills =the winner aspect and mindset?

Reposting the question again...

 

[Old Fart]

Down down, I'm with you dirty go head and lay down
Finance a pay-down, heard what I said now?
See how I procede with caution
My whip crack fast all you niggas is horses
Randy Moss', I play when I wanna
Nut check, gut check, 'cause I say what I wanna
Around six in the six with the throwback
Sixers, number six Julius Irv'
Cris and the herb, make it hard to swirve
Throw your hands up; if you didn't bang your rim on the curb
You couldn't hit while you was making a turn
I strike a nerve and old MC's wantin a comeback
I got repsect but it's lost and that's a fact
Like K - "Know" one here even said your name
R - You really feeling guilty bout something mayn
S - Sad to see you really just want just
One - more hit please please!
You the first old man who should get a rapper's pension
No hit since the cordless mic invention
Snitching? Matter fact stay the fuck out the kitchen
Nelly cookin with too many dimensions
Mid west, and we aim about mid chest
Duked on my side, too many in my tribe
Coupe outside who the fuck want a ride?

This was Nelly's phenomenal diss..OHHHHHHHHH daaaaamn! This shit was sick...

I always found it funny that Nelly didn't even know how to spell 'no one'. It's impossible to win a battle with some iliterate shit like that

 

[Disciplined InSight]

mediocre diss & the smile like jelly is one of the wackest lines i heard in a diss song

Denial is bliss.........

 

[ibedamned]

and this one ...

You trying to diss me? how

if it wasnt for the true school, your bitchass wouldnt be here now

blao blao, show me respect from the gate

or imma have to drown you kids like Angia Yates

you cant handle a break

im a flamethrower, you a Bic lighter

you think im cocky cause you a dickrider

i spit tighter, im not like all the rest

im not a playa but i did stay at a holiday inn express

so nevertheless im gonna teach ya teacher

but when them slugs hit ya, youll be screamin momma "i Yi i Yi"

you never seen me sing?

you dont know what i bring?

youll be singin the blues like BB King

im all about the unity of miss and mistas

you all about grabbin money and dissin our sistas

take your ass back to TV land

and let this be a lesson, you can't see me man

just when i thought i could do my gospel, and become an apostle

i gotta hold and get hostile

i dont mean to knock you nelly

but aint you that MTV house nigga wit a smile like jelly?

imma do this by the book, for the art

i heard what you said on BET's 106 and park

but what you dont know, is right around the corner of third

i hold a desert eagle, and no its not a bird

you sound absurd, you gonna bring me back

i taught all year round the spot, B pat

you copycat, with sloppy raps

you chill with N'sync, i chill where hiphop be at

First off the verse wasnt all that tight, real talk. Im not gone sit here and argue that nelly is a better rapper than KRS im not dumb. But that shit u put up aint hot. "Im not a player but i did stay at holiday in express" Really, this IS Krs One, the Blast Master right? "I got a desert eagle and its not a bird" Come on dude if Nelly said that shit you'd be clownin. And for one its wrong, didnt this nigga come at nelly first? So how he gone get mad at a nigga for doing the hip hop thing and responding? He sound exactly what nelly was sayin like an old as man wanting attenti on. How you gone diss a nigga then talk about "respect me"? Nobody is sayin that Nelly super slayed the nigga but he did in fact respond and the fact that his response wasnt that long and it was funny and krs did come back w three alright verses makes me think he got under his skin. And dont call me no nelly stan or none of that bs, im not even a nelly fan or a krs fan. I just try to keep it real and unbias.

 

[Old Fart]

Reposting the question again...

The IC as far as I can gather. The hip-hop heads I ever came up around know a battle winner is based off who went in the hardest. This "records sells means you won a rap battle" shit is something I first ran into here a couple years ago when I first started checkin into this site

 

[Old Fart]

here's another.........

Yo Nelly! You ain't Fo'Reel and you ain't
Universal
Your whole style sounds like a NSYNC commercial
Ignoratus, I'm the baddest with the mic apparatus
Challenge the God of rap is madness
Snatch your status, with this ugly lookin
billboard you can't stop them
But I got enough albums to make my own top ten
You limited, like the spread of traffic
You bite my style off the radio so when you speak
you bet I hear the static
You better chillout like Chuck, I kick like three
Norris's
One of my sixteen bar rhymes is eight of your
choruses
Of course it is ridiculous
Watch out, I begin to curve indispicuous
Gotcha! On your, hands and knees
Ain't it about time for some real emcees?

[Chorus]
The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)
The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)
The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)
The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)

[Verse 2]
(Uh!) Uh! We on the hunt tonight

When you see me comin, I don't front I fight
People say I'm contradictin, cause I'm about
peace
to say the least with a violent history
It ain't no mystery these rappers wanna get with
me
My people don't see that all they hear is stop
hittin me, huh
Stop beatin me Chris, you want to help my career
Nelly?
Well you can help if you don't exist, huh
I think it's 'bout time we stop these pop rappers
Fuck these pop rappers, hip hop does matter to me
Does it matter to you? My crew
If it does, you know what the hell to do
Throw your guns in the air, pump it like yeah
Let these bitch ass rappers know we in here
Go to the shows huh, boo 'em off stage
Tell 'em KRS told you they at the end of they
days
Let me tell you let's give hip hop a lift
And don't buy Nelly's album on June twenty fifth
That'll send a message to all them sellouts
House fag rapper, your bottom done fell out
You dont even know how, I told you
I wasn't talkin about you then, but I'm talkin
about you now!
Blaow! one to the kness, blaow one goes right
through
Even St. Louis don't like you!!!!

 

[T. Sanford]

First off the verse wasnt all that tight, real talk. Im not gone sit here and argue that nelly is a better rapper than KRS im not dumb. But that shit u put up aint hot. "Im not a player but i did stay at holiday in express" Really, this IS Krs One, the Blast Master right? "I got a desert eagle and its not a bird" Come on dude if Nelly said that shit you'd be clownin. And for one its wrong, didnt this nigga come at nelly first? So how he gone get mad at a nigga for doing the hip hop thing and responding? He sound exactly what nelly was sayin like an old as man wanting attenti on. How you gone diss a nigga then talk about "respect me"? Nobody is sayin that Nelly super slayed the nigga but he did in fact respond and the fact that his response wasnt that long and it was funny and krs did come back w three alright verses makes me think he got under his skin. And dont call me no nelly stan or none of that bs, im not even a nelly fan or a krs fan. I just try to keep it real and unbias.

real talk, that what I was saying when I seen that diss.

"smile like jelly" that is a wack ass line & I aint kiddin like Jason. I know my niggas nh Kool G Rap, & Rakim wouldve came more correct then Krs-zero

 

[ibedamned]

here's another.........

Yo Nelly! You ain't Fo'Reel and you ain't

Universal

Your whole style sounds like a NSYNC commercial

Ignoratus, I'm the baddest with the mic apparatus

Challenge the God of rap is madness

Snatch your status, with this ugly lookin

billboard you can't stop them

But I got enough albums to make my own top ten

You limited, like the spread of traffic

You bite my style off the radio so when you speak

you bet I hear the static

You better chillout like Chuck, I kick like three

Norris's

One of my sixteen bar rhymes is eight of your

choruses

Of course it is ridiculous

Watch out, I begin to curve indispicuous

Gotcha! On your, hands and knees

Ain't it about time for some real emcees?

[Chorus]

The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)

The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)

The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)

The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!)

[Verse 2]

(Uh!) Uh! We on the hunt tonight

When you see me comin, I don't front I fight

People say I'm contradictin, cause I'm about

peace

to say the least with a violent history

It ain't no mystery these rappers wanna get with

me

My people don't see that all they hear is stop

hittin me, huh

Stop beatin me Chris, you want to help my career

Nelly?

Well you can help if you don't exist, huh

I think it's 'bout time we stop these pop rappers

Fuck these pop rappers, hip hop does matter to me

Does it matter to you? My crew

If it does, you know what the hell to do

Throw your guns in the air, pump it like yeah

Let these bitch ass rappers know we in here

Go to the shows huh, boo 'em off stage

Tell 'em KRS told you they at the end of they

days

Let me tell you let's give hip hop a lift

And don't buy Nelly's album on June twenty fifth

That'll send a message to all them sellouts

House fag rapper, your bottom done fell out

You dont even know how, I told you

I wasn't talkin about you then, but I'm talkin

about you now!

Blaow! one to the kness, blaow one goes right

through

Even St. Louis don't like you!!!!

Not true lol. And how many responses this nigga make off nelly half a verse response?

 

[T. Sanford]

Krs makes 3 songs about Nelly but wont respond to Bis, now you tell me who is a coward? (fill in the blank) ____ one

 

[Kingpr0n2]

They are both insanely dope! But Cannibus >>>>>>KRS.

 

[rusty shackleford]

canibus called him on his bullshit and he still aint respond but he will pick on nelly when nelly wasnt dissing him in no way

krs has 26 gold & plat plaques.. nelly has 3 or 4.. MABY.

krs tours the world on a yearly basis.. nelly has been missing in action for a hot ass minute.

nelly dissing krs is like you dissing god. hence, the decapitation that he recieved for his trouble.

krs introduced gangster rap to the world & then subsequently shit on it.

nelly introduced covering big ass pimples with cartoon encrusted bandaids..

krs one cultivated nearly every style nelly uses..

canibus can eat a niggas ass... but can't sell a record to save his life..

krs one has embodied hiphop from the very beginning while nelly takes his shirt off every chance he gets because he knows as well as we do that he's basically this generations fake ass ll cool j.

the word "Nelly" is southern slang for an effeminate gay man..

need i continue?

 

[Old Fart]

Krs makes 3 songs about Nelly but wont respond to Bis, now you tell me who is a coward? (fill in the blank) ____ one

back to the thread topic, i'd like to see KRS answer Bis. not sure if he will or won't but he should. It's just ridiculous to me that no matter what the topic of a thread is pertaining to KRS, some pop fans gotta always chime in and claim he lost to Nelly due to sells. That's the only issue I got with some of the hate because it's not even hip-hop related.

Now KRS vs Bis would be a REAL hip-hop battle and the winner would be based strictly off of who comes with the illest lines and skills. Neither would be able to be judged off pop fan sells because neither one is selling commercially. This is what we need is a true underground hip-hop battle. I wish KRS would step to the plate on this one. He just wasted his time with Nelly's wack ass