Why I raise my children without God.

[Dupac]

this is dangerously close to being moved to race and religion..but i'll just say this and got back to watching mission impossible 3...

for a few years i'm not going to say i was a 100% atheist... but i lost all faith in man... i just felt man was too stupid as a whole to be trusted on anything..especially religion...the fact that man has been proven wrong on so many things in the history of man...and constantly "discovers" new things... to have faith that they got God, and Christ, and the entire concept of Christianity right on the first time around was borderline foolish...

not to mention all the wars and bloodshed and ironically un-Christian like behavior demonstrated in the spread of Christianity...religion as a whole was just a turn off for me....I felt like if God was real...he'd be pissed that this is how man chose to worship him...infact... he might not even care to be worshiped at all... he prollly looks at us all like we some dummies...

then i came across this essay by Bertrand Russell entitled "WHy I am not a Christian" and that shit just fucked with my head for a good while

i don't think it was a coincidence that i was a heavy weed smoker at the time....

then..after I had some pretty rough and humbling life experiences.. my perspective kinda started changing....I start finding more appreciation for things like love, peace and happiness....I developed a passion for those things, and I started realizing that these were core things that were taught in Christianity...regardless what the pastor may say, or what people on facebook, and ignorant fools who just want a cause to run with...ultimately..at it's core.. Christianity was way of living that promoted, peace, love and happiness....there were tons of other things int here too.. but nothing in the bible, or in the religion itself is actually bad... it's not a terrible lifestyle to choose to abide by....

I just think far too many people who have ulterior motives are often dubbed the representatives of it......

then one day when i was really really high.. i started thinking...."well what if God is real, would he give us signs of it?"

then i started thinking of all the shit i've been through, just reflecting....started talking with my moms a little.....started reading the bible a little more... then i found myself going to bible college at my church...where our pastor was breaking down certain stories in the bible, and teaching us how to break down sermons.....

after a few months of that....i started going back to church.. and i just feel i have a new sense of understanding of things....

i understand theres people who going to feel a certain way about church whether it's for it or against it.. but i don't think it's my role to try to persuade them by belittling them.. i think that's the absolute least effective way of making anyone understand your way of looking at things... that's why i be tripping off of gung -ho Christians, and atheist alike....people stay over doing shit...

just live your life the way that makes you happy, everybody can't be preached to...sometimes they gotta see the God in you to believe....you can't go around tryna force people in to thinking your way...

that's why theirs so much friction...people stay trying to prove their point by making someone else feel stupid...or trying to make themselves feel superior...

I just do what makes me happy.....and i do find that church, the bible, and being a Christian is teaching me how to preserve that happiness, and i work to be better at it, because I believe it's changing me into a better person for myself and for my family...

can't believe i just typed that much...

 

[Ajackson17]

i think carl sagan said it the best i've ever heard

"An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence..."

His argument fails because the claim of the "supernatural" is an unscientific one. So by the very nature of the claim, evidence can't be compiled for or against it.

Such claims don't automatically get a status quo of "true" or "valid" simply because someone comes up with them.

My reasoning stands correctly and Carl Sagan stands because all you are saying is you have proof of your beliefs in which you don't because you can't see it. Your logical fallacies are showing. All in all is that we don't know because we can't approve or disapprove God exists. Until we can actually travel through hyperspace and know what is there to know about the universe we wouldn't have the capacity to express such a belief is actually true.

 

[Shizlansky]

Cosign Vibe

 

[Matt-]

God is different for all people.

i don't think thats true. At least for the Christian God. Interpretations may be different but not God itself.

 

[The Prodigalson]

this is dangerously close to being moved to race and religion..but i'll just say this and got back to watching mission impossible 3...

for a few years i'm not going to say i was a 100% atheist... but i lost all faith in man... i just felt man was too stupid as a whole to be trusted on anything..especially religion...the fact that man has been proven wrong on so many things in the history of man...and constantly "discovers" new things... to have faith that they got God, and Christ, and the entire concept of Christianity right on the first time around was borderline foolish...

not to mention all the wars and bloodshed and ironically un-Christian like behavior demonstrated in the spread of Christianity...religion as a whole was just a turn off for me....I felt like if God was real...he'd be pissed that this is how man chose to worship him...infact... he might not even care to be worshiped at all... he prollly looks at us all like we some dummies...

then i came across this essay by Bertrand Russell entitled "WHy I am not a Christian" and that shit just fucked with my head for a good while

i don't think it was a coincidence that i was a heavy weed smoker at the time....

then..after I had some pretty rough and humbling life experiences.. my perspective kinda started changing....I start finding more appreciation for things like love, peace and happiness....I developed a passion for those things, and I started realizing that these were core things that were taught in Christianity...regardless what the pastor may say, or what people on facebook, and ignorant fools who just want a cause to run with...ultimately..at it's core.. Christianity was way of living that promoted, peace, love and happiness....there were tons of other things int here too.. but nothing in the bible, or in the religion itself is actually bad... it's not a terrible lifestyle to choose to abide by....

I just think far too many people who have ulterior motives are often dubbed the representatives of it......

then one day when i was really really high.. i started thinking...."well what if God is real, would he give us signs of it?"

then i started thinking of all the shit i've been through, just reflecting....started talking with my moms a little.....started reading the bible a little more... then i found myself going to bible college at my church...where our pastor was breaking down certain stories in the bible, and teaching us how to break down sermons.....

after a few months of that....i started going back to church.. and i just feel i have a new sense of understanding of things....

i understand theres people who going to feel a certain way about church whether it's for it or against it.. but i don't think it's my role to try to persuade them by belittling them.. i think that's the absolute least effective way of making anyone understand your way of looking at things... that's why i be tripping off of gung -ho Christians, and atheist alike....people stay over doing shit...

just live your life the way that makes you happy, everybody can't be preached to...sometimes they gotta see the God in you to believe....you can't go around tryna force people in to thinking your way...

that's why theirs so much friction...people stay trying to prove their point by making someone else feel stupid...or trying to make themselves feel superior...

I just do what makes me happy.....and i do find that church, the bible, and being a Christian is teaching me how to preserve that happiness, and i work to be better at it, because I believe it's changing me into a better person for myself and for my family...

can't believe i just typed that much...

 

[Matt-]

i don't do the legalistic bs and use scare tactics. thats ridiculous. there is so much other things to learn about no just "if you don't do this this this, and this you're going to hell" or that God is always nice and if you do good things then only good things will happen to you. that is extremely flawed interpretation and parenting.

 

[Matt-]

"then one day when i was really really high.. i started thinking...."well what if God is real, would he give us signs of it?"

ol what if god was one of us thinkin like Joan Osborn lookin as pothead

 

[Ajackson17]

this is dangerously close to being moved to race and religion..but i'll just say this and got back to watching mission impossible 3...

for a few years i'm not going to say i was a 100% atheist... but i lost all faith in man... i just felt man was too stupid as a whole to be trusted on anything..especially religion...the fact that man has been proven wrong on so many things in the history of man...and constantly "discovers" new things... to have faith that they got God, and Christ, and the entire concept of Christianity right on the first time around was borderline foolish...

not to mention all the wars and bloodshed and ironically un-Christian like behavior demonstrated in the spread of Christianity...religion as a whole was just a turn off for me....I felt like if God was real...he'd be pissed that this is how man chose to worship him...infact... he might not even care to be worshiped at all... he prollly looks at us all like we some dummies...

then i came across this essay by Bertrand Russell entitled "WHy I am not a Christian" and that shit just fucked with my head for a good while

i don't think it was a coincidence that i was a heavy weed smoker at the time....

then..after I had some pretty rough and humbling life experiences.. my perspective kinda started changing....I start finding more appreciation for things like love, peace and happiness....I developed a passion for those things, and I started realizing that these were core things that were taught in Christianity...regardless what the pastor may say, or what people on facebook, and ignorant fools who just want a cause to run with...ultimately..at it's core.. Christianity was way of living that promoted, peace, love and happiness....there were tons of other things int here too.. but nothing in the bible, or in the religion itself is actually bad... it's not a terrible lifestyle to choose to abide by....

I just think far too many people who have ulterior motives are often dubbed the representatives of it......

then one day when i was really really high.. i started thinking...."well what if God is real, would he give us signs of it?"

then i started thinking of all the shit i've been through, just reflecting....started talking with my moms a little.....started reading the bible a little more... then i found myself going to bible college at my church...where our pastor was breaking down certain stories in the bible, and teaching us how to break down sermons.....

after a few months of that....i started going back to church.. and i just feel i have a new sense of understanding of things....

i understand theres people who going to feel a certain way about church whether it's for it or against it.. but i don't think it's my role to try to persuade them by belittling them.. i think that's the absolute least effective way of making anyone understand your way of looking at things... that's why i be tripping off of gung -ho Christians, and atheist alike....people stay over doing shit...

just live your life the way that makes you happy, everybody can't be preached to...sometimes they gotta see the God in you to believe....you can't go around tryna force people in to thinking your way...

that's why theirs so much friction...people stay trying to prove their point by making someone else feel stupid...or trying to make themselves feel superior...

I just do what makes me happy.....and i do find that church, the bible, and being a Christian is teaching me how to preserve that happiness, and i work to be better at it, because I believe it's changing me into a better person for myself and for my family...

can't believe i just typed that much...

I agree man. I thought about that too, that sometimes people have to see the God in you and your walk and sometimes it needs the intellectual teaching and not the emotional sway that gets other people and some need to hear the practical side of it. Some will never go with it and that's their thing, you cannot make anyone do anything and you can't preach to everyone, not even the disciples did that nor Jesus did that. You do what you can and you do what you have to and let everyone come to their own determination of what they believe.

 

[VIBE]

God is different for all people.

i don't think thats true. At least for the Christian God. Interpretations may be different but not God itself.

The main idea of god is the same; the creator.

Anything after that is usually pretty different. The Christian god is the only one who has all the gods wrapped up into one.

Other gods are like the single order of a plain cheeseburger.

The Christian god is the meal w everything on it, supersized.

 

[S2J]

No disrespect to all my fellow IC constituents but I dont think you understand the POV of an atheist...(using and atheist as an example)

•first of all... to a theist (if your a theist) ANY! and I mean ANY.. big or little criticism against a GOD that you love.. That you've built your life around...will always feel and sound like an attack.

• Secondly...do you realize that atheist are surrounded by theist all damn day .. 75% being christian in the states.. right.. We gotta hear about this God shyt all damn day from everywhere!.. ... We cant escape that shyt... N*ggas be on facebook talking that shyt or praising God at the award shows (like nygga get outta here wts.) We gotta hear that shyt from a bunch of hypocritical mafuckas.... like clearly you obviously in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM live your life Christ like...(all you do is pray when you need some shyt) but who am I to judge.

Its like a black man trying to escape the essence of racism or some shyt.

So yeah it may seem like Atheist are pushy (and some are because theres always a fringe element within a certain group) but nyggas finally can actually speak out without feeling shunned... especially in the Black community where people love them some God and jesus.

"Look at you, emotional."

I'm sorry you feel 'shunned' Lol smh But forreal, that confirms my belief: a lot of atheists carry the burden of ya moms/pastor/priest/religious uncle with you every time you post. Yall asume every Theist looks like this:

Thats some abused woman logic. You grown now! smh Do you, beloved Lol Look around- you're far from a minority in these days n times..ESPECIALLY on the net.

 

[blacktux]

Let the

Believes God doesn't exist but doesn't have proof.

Believes God is real and exist but doesn't have proof.

Same group of people no matter how you look at it.

Not at all simpleton. This quote and du's quote about "education making people stupid" has to be some of the dumbest shit ive read on this site.

The only difference between an athiest and a believer is one party blindly believes you have a ferrari while the other party tells you to prove it, and if you can't; doesnt believe you.

Outside of proof there is no reason to believe anything.

 

[SleepwalkingInJapan]

god a fake ass nigga yo

 

[Dupac]

plus they real as shit at my church...

one of the Reverends said some shit one day that i'm positive is a rap lyric... she was on some

"everybody wanna go to heaven...but nobody ready to die"

shit had me in church like

if this 70 year old chick don't get outta here sounding like tupac n shit

 

[VIBE]

Personally, I think "gods works" are a placebo effect on a persons mind.

 

[MC The Rapper]

So what values,morals, and overall identity are you instilling in your seed .

These can be instilled without a bible, not every culture has had a Christian bible and followed these rules. Not all of them have had the same idea of "god".

One says do not murder, the other requires human sacrifices.

God is different for all people.

I teach my kids good "morals", but it has nothing to do w the bible.

even tho I typed a period it was a question , what values do you instill in your children ? of course you can have

values, morals, and an identity without the bible. What exactly do you consider good morals?

 

[Lot86]

Getting into these threads always suck for me, being Muslim, trying to prove my points, I end up going against EVERYONE, Atheists and Christians, everything Atheists use in their arguments is the point of Christian views. But neither though I have gone against whole sites numerous times, I tend to fall back now.

 

[Matt-]

plus they real as shit at my church...

one of the Reverends said some shit one day that i'm positive is a rap lyric... she was on some

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

 

[ohhhla]

Believes God doesn't exist but doesn't have proof.

Believes God is real and exist but doesn't have proof.

Same group of people no matter how you look at it.

The burden on proof is on the claimers.

How many times must we go through this?

Do I have to have proof to disbelieve in santa, loch ness monster, odin, thor with his hammer, the ghost that never lies and etc.

 

[Shuffington]

Even when you walk around humble, charitable, and full joy and optimism...

people assume your the manifestation of a light weight Jesus..

Even after you tell them your an atheist..

in their eyes every thing that is "good" and right is a pure reflection of "God"...

Some people just dont get it.

 

[Matt-]

Getting into these threads always suck for me, being Muslim, trying to prove my points, I end up going against EVERYONE, Atheists and Christiansquote]

aye just keep that shit on the net aight?