why eminem is the greatest lyricist ever

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Renegade was a good feature, but I really don't think anyone would be talkin bout "ooh he murdered Hov" if Nas didn't say it
 
Cabana_Da_Don;9003338 said:
Nasir Jones made way more valuable music.Ems best subject matter was when he was getting off drugs and when he was on drugs.

What was the in between?
 
Eminem had the machine behind him. I've been a Hip Hopper since day one and the only other person that got as much media hype was 50 Cent.

If you take the machine away, yeah, Eminem was an outstanding lyricist but let's be honest with each other, the quality of his music and replay value leaves a lot to be desired.

If you take record sales and skin color away from the conversation, he doesn't make the top 10.
 
^^^^

His music was hot before the 'machine'

But ppl kinda goin off topic its not even about subject matter, skin color, and record sales. Thread is simply referring to lyricism. If he was black n didnt go platinum the music would still be the same n he would still be top 5 lyricist of all time
 
Go figure;9003537 said:
^^^^

His music was hot before the 'machine'

But ppl kinda goin off topic its not even about subject matter, skin color, and record sales. Thread is simply referring to lyricism. If he was black n didnt go platinum the music would still be the same n he would still be top 5 lyricist of all time

This the IC bruh.
 
He's one of the geatest of all time lyrically, no one can take that from him. But Rakim and Nas fathered his style. Shit, even his "first" album Infinite was heavily influenced and damn near tribute to Illmatic
 
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Go figure;9003537 said:
^^^^

His music was hot before the 'machine'

But ppl kinda goin off topic its not even about subject matter, skin color, and record sales. Thread is simply referring to lyricism. If he was black n didnt go platinum the music would still be the same n he would still be top 5 lyricist of all time

Personally I prefer Canibus, Big L and Big Pun but admitedly Eminem is on their level.

But I don't consider Canibus, Big L or Big Pun to be top 10 MCs either.
 
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Y'all sound dumb as hell, and clearly lack Hip-Hop knowledge. Em is nowhere near the top lyricist.

You might want to redefine the context and rephrase to one of the top commercial rappers who's also lyrical, but as far as raw lyricism and opening the field to all MCs? HELL NO!

Half of Wu Tang will murder him on the mic, people like Black Thought, Killah Priest, niggas like Kool G Rap, Kane, Rakim, Nas, Mos Def and the list goes on and on. Em struggles with those rejects in Slaughterhouse, Royce stay whoopin' that ass.

Y'all niggas either white people posin', blinded by the commercial success, or lost in the white Jesus/savior complex. There is no way you objectively think Em is anywhere near the GOAT lyricist.
 
NothingButTheTruth;9003882 said:
Y'all sound dumb as hell, and clearly lack Hip-Hop knowledge. Em is nowhere near the top lyricist.

You might want to redefine the context and rephrase to one of the top commercial rappers who's also lyrical, but as far as raw lyricism and opening the field to all MCs? HELL NO!

Half of Wu Tang will murder him on the mic, people like Black Thought, Killah Priest, niggas like Kool G Rap, Kane, Rakim, Nas, Mos Def and the list goes on and on. Em struggles with those rejects in Slaughterhouse, Royce stay whoopin' that ass.

Y'all niggas either white people posin', blinded by the commercial success, or lost in the white Jesus/savior complex. There is no way you objectively think Em is anywhere near the GOAT lyricist.

Em will wash the floor with half of Wu-Tang, fight me. Coming from a huge Wu fan. Only Ghost and GZA have a shot.
 
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juelz21;546022 said:
while most dudes rhyme words like cat hat rat san fan can

eminem rhymes syllables like can hat tool doom

perfect rhyme involves rhyming words and not just the syllable like imperfect rhyme

this is why eminem is the king of rhyming imo

Stop listening to trap music then if you ain't down with that cat rat hat shit.

Just be happy them boys can read
 
NothingButTheTruth;9003882 said:
Y'all sound dumb as hell, and clearly lack Hip-Hop knowledge. Em is nowhere near the top lyricist.

You might want to redefine the context and rephrase to one of the top commercial rappers who's also lyrical, but as far as raw lyricism and opening the field to all MCs? HELL NO!

Half of Wu Tang will murder him on the mic, people like Black Thought, Killah Priest, niggas like Kool G Rap, Kane, Rakim, Nas, Mos Def and the list goes on and on. Em struggles with those rejects in Slaughterhouse, Royce stay whoopin' that ass.

Y'all niggas either white people posin', blinded by the commercial success, or lost in the white Jesus/savior complex. There is no way you objectively think Em is anywhere near the GOAT lyricist.

LOL
 
Stew;9003923 said:
NothingButTheTruth;9003882 said:
Y'all sound dumb as hell, and clearly lack Hip-Hop knowledge. Em is nowhere near the top lyricist.

You might want to redefine the context and rephrase to one of the top commercial rappers who's also lyrical, but as far as raw lyricism and opening the field to all MCs? HELL NO!

Half of Wu Tang will murder him on the mic, people like Black Thought, Killah Priest, niggas like Kool G Rap, Kane, Rakim, Nas, Mos Def and the list goes on and on. Em struggles with those rejects in Slaughterhouse, Royce stay whoopin' that ass.

Y'all niggas either white people posin', blinded by the commercial success, or lost in the white Jesus/savior complex. There is no way you objectively think Em is anywhere near the GOAT lyricist.

Em will wash the floor with half of Wu-Tang, fight me. Coming from a huge Wu fan. Only Ghost and GZA have a shot.

Inspectah Deck could play and Meth too.

Yo I like that song you posted. There's another featurin' that Buckshot which came out around MMLP2 that I liked too.

But yeah still flows nice and all but it's not natural man
 
KamPushMe;9004238 said:
Stew is such a em groupie smh

Shit is disgusting

#1 I'm not a groupie

#2 I do this shit cause I know it pisses ppl off cause some of u have some kinda unnatural hate for him like hes trash(which he is far from) and I get a kick out of it cause I speak nothin but facts and nobody fights back with nothin other than "Stan" or "groupie" or "feelings" reactions :joy:

#3 you are worse with Kanye

KamPushMe;8989212 said:
Yeezus Christ!

This man truly is a god!

Don't ever in your life comment on me being a "fan" of a rapper ever again.

 
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I understand this is a troll thread but what I don't get is these idiots that act like blk folk ain't got no legit reason 2 not like the shady cracka... like feminem ain't never drop no racist tapes rappin dissin blk people I can't even believe we r having a debate about a white racist shady cracka Klansmen being the greatest lyricist every hip hop is dead.

KamPushMe;9004238 said:
Stew is such a em groupie smh

Shit is disgusting

I remember that white Mexican was tryna tell us blk folk that that shady cracka Klansmen wasnt racist even tho he got racist tapes talking bout I dont like that NIGGER shit..
 
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