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HipHopinRaps;1150926 said:bitch ass niqqa calling us 2pac stans when he the one whos bringin his boy 50 Cent in comparison with 2pacand ignoring proof, niqqa gtf outta here with the bUUUULLshit
that shit annoyz me everytime i c that shit cuz pac was a MADENIGGA & cuuurly is a HOUSENIGGA!
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MR.CJ;1150950 said:according to jonathand, gucci mane should be selling platinum albums by now.
If Gucci was released from jail in 1996, signed to the equivalent of Death Row in the early 90's, and held down his whole coast in the biggest rap beef ever (against the biggest rapper on the opposite coast), then maybe this would make sense...
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jonathand;1150957 said:If Gucci was released from jail in 1996, signed to the equivalent of Death Row in the early 90's, and held down his whole coast in the biggest rap beef ever (against the biggest rapper on the opposite coast), then maybe this would make sense...
that was not da only factor wit pac sellin 5 mill n 2monthz did u 4get that he was a MOVIE STAR 2?? pac aint just rap again u should just give it a rest cuz da mo u post da mo krazy u look lol..smh
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gee757;1150967 said:that was not da only factor wit pac sellin 5 mill n 2monthz did u 4get that he was a MOVIE STAR 2?? pac aint just rap again u should just give it a rest cuz da mo u post da mo krazy u look lol..smh
co-sign.......
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jonathand;1150957 said:If Gucci was released from jail in 1996, signed to the equivalent of Death Row in the early 90's, and held down his whole coast in the biggest rap beef ever (against the biggest rapper on the opposite coast), then maybe this would make sense...
shouldn't beans be a mega star?
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gee757;1150967 said:that was not da only factor wit pac sellin 5 mill n 2monthz did u 4get that he was a MOVIE STAR 2?? pac aint just rap again u should just give it a rest cuz da mo u post da mo krazy u look lol..smh
true..............
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MR.CJ;1150982 said:true..............
seriously homeboy most have 4got that pac was a movie star 2 & he repp'd da east & west not just 1 coast smh...therr is no way pac couldve sold 5mill n 2monthz just reppin 1 coast come on now
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isayas;1150989 said:Boy, Pac stans are the worst.
how can u talk when ya a GGGAY-UNIT groupie gtfoh smh..
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HipHopinRaps
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jonathand;1150957 said:If Gucci was released from jail in 1996, signed to the equivalent of Death Row in the early 90's, and held down his whole coast in the biggest rap beef ever (against the biggest rapper on the opposite coast), then maybe this would make sense...
smh....gucci
that still wont make sense!
this cleary proves you a bitch niqqa! you saying gucci would have the same sells and legacy as pac if it was gucci? omgg yoo don't respond to this niqqa no more please!!! i beg of all lmao
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gee757;1150995 said:how can u talk when ya a GGGAY-UNIT groupie gtfoh smh..
Man, Gee, it's true. Y'all talk about him like he's flawless. You guys are the worst.
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thesynthesis
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jonathand;1150936 said:There goes that lapse in elementary English again. I never disputed that Pac style didn't develop. I stated that was NOT the damn supreme factor in his high sales. Stop with the damn bullshit. You know damn well his release from jail, death row/dre alliance and him holding down a whole coast during the biggest rap beef ever played the biggest factor in his sales. If classic music alone equated to sales, Illmatic would be the equivalent of the The Marshal Mathers LP (SALES-WISE).
it was a supreme factor in sales as was his production
instead of having an album with 3-4 great songs he made an album with 27 great songs...
look at it from a fans point of view or a music lovers point of view, they hear california love on the radio "wow this song is dope", they hear how do u want it, "damn i gotta cop this album"...it works like that nigga, controversy only helps an artist to some extent, if ur music is wack word will spread faster than a forrest fire....
thats how albums bomb, thats how big budget movies bomb...cuz controversy is not the basis on which you sell big numbers
he did 5 mil, jay aint, whats the big deal?
some may argue jays relationship/ marriage helps him shift numbers, some may argue big dying helped jay do numbers, some may argue jay jacking lyrics, taking credit for others works, hitting niggas with champagne bottles, working with the biggest producers, the r kelly drama as helped him shit records.... amongst a million other things
every artist has controversy, but if ur music is trash then you will not sell
firstly illmatic was Nas first album, how many rappers do huge numbers out the gate back then? even pac didnt manage that
IWW did 3 mill, off the back off Illmatic, and the help of better production and better features....
IWW is a better album than illmatic if we ar being honest as it sounds sonically better, but also has dope songs
Nas could have had all the controversy in the world, but illmatic would not have done 5 mil, simply because the overall product was not great...
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isayas;1151008 said:Man, Gee, it's true. Y'all talk about him like he's flawless. You guys are the worst.
plz quote me sayin pac is flawless & ill shut up but im not gonna let nonsense fly....
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thesynthesis
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HipHopinRaps;1151003 said:smh....gucci
that still wont make sense!
this cleary proves you a bitch niqqa! you saying gucci would have the same sells and legacy as pac if it was gucci? omgg yoo don't respond to this niqqa no more please!!! i beg of all lmao
dead
nigga really believes that dumb shit ass logic
nigga guccie cud have all the controversy in the world i would still not cop his trash album nor would 5 mil people
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Mvpbrodie93
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1.AEOM does not have 27 great songs most of the second disk was filler
2. IWW is still not better then illmatic, people need to give up on that Internet myth
2. IWW is still not better then illmatic, people need to give up on that Internet myth
thesynthesis;1151009 said:it was a supreme factor in sales as was his production
instead of having an album with 3-4 great songs he made an album with 27 great songs...
look at it from a fans point of view or a music lovers point of view, they hear california love on the radio "wow this song is dope", they hear how do u want it, "damn i gotta cop this album"...it works like that nigga, controversy only helps an artist to some extent, if ur music is wack word will spread faster than a forrest fire....
thats how albums bomb, thats how big budget movies bomb...cuz controversy is not the basis on which you sell big numbers
he did 5 mil, jay aint, whats the big deal?
some may argue jays relationship/ marriage helps him shift numbers, some may argue big dying helped jay do numbers, some may argue jay jacking lyrics, taking credit for others works, hitting niggas with champagne bottles, working with the biggest producers, the r kelly drama as helped him shit records.... amongst a million other things
every artist has controversy, but if ur music is trash then you will not sell
firstly illmatic was Nas first album, how many rappers do huge numbers out the gate back then? even pac didnt manage that
IWW did 3 mill, off the back off Illmatic, and the help of better production and better features....
IWW is a better album than illmatic if we ar being honest as it sounds sonically better, but also has dope songs
Nas could have had all the controversy in the world, but illmatic would not have done 5 mil, simply because the overall product was not great...
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lmao at Pac being a Movie Star. No, he was an actor but far from a movie star. You know what was Pac's most successful film? Poetic Justice. You know why? Because of his co-star Janet Jackson was killing shit with her #1 single "Again" (which she won an academy award for). Now lets look at a quote from the first movie to release after tupacs death;
Gridlock'd is a 1997 film starring Tupac Shakur, Tim Roth, and Thandie Newton. It was the directorial debut of Vondie Curtis-Hall, who also wrote the story and screenplay. The film's opening was relatively low, despite critical acclaim; its opening weekend netted only $2,678,372 and it finished with a little over $5.5 million.[1] The film paid tribute to star Tupac Shakur, who had been murdered several months before the film's release.
Movie star my ass...
Gridlock'd is a 1997 film starring Tupac Shakur, Tim Roth, and Thandie Newton. It was the directorial debut of Vondie Curtis-Hall, who also wrote the story and screenplay. The film's opening was relatively low, despite critical acclaim; its opening weekend netted only $2,678,372 and it finished with a little over $5.5 million.[1] The film paid tribute to star Tupac Shakur, who had been murdered several months before the film's release.
Movie star my ass...
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gee757;1151014 said:plz quote me sayin pac is flawless & ill shut up but im not gonna let nonsense fly....
I meant to say act, my error.
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HipHopinRaps
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isayas;1151008 said:Man, Gee, it's true. Y'all talk about him like he's flawless. You guys are the worst.
how the fuck you callin us stans when we posted proof, you on his dick for a simple fact he mention 50 Cent you suck dick or die tryin ass niqqa
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