Why did J.Cole "Miss America" single flop?

[usmarin3]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

WorkOut by himself

Cant Get Enough ft- Trey Songz

Mr Nice Watch featuring ft-Jay-z

Nobody Perfect ft-Missy Elliot

You acting like Cole aint do the same thing

Look at Wale. Has Had a feature on every single. Same with Meek Mill. Look at Jay-z. Outside of 1 or 2 songs he has had features on most of his singles his whole career.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

I Do It

Getcha Some

Guap

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

I Do It

Getcha Some

Guap

i do it was his weakest single off finally famous...never even heard of getcha some and guap flopped like miss america that shit not even on any charts right now lmao

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

I Do It

Getcha Some

Guap

i do it was his weakest single off finally famous...never even heard of getcha some and guap flopped like miss america that shit not even on any charts right now lmao

Whether or not you heard them is irrelevant, i was just pointing out to usmarin3 that he has released singles by himself. And if we use the charts to measure flops, Miss America flopped harder, it didn't even chart on the Rap charts

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

idk why there's a COle vs Sean beef on here. Im a big fan of both, i bought both debut albums

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

 

[DarthRozay]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

WorkOut by himself

Cant Get Enough ft- Trey Songz

Mr Nice Watch featuring ft-Jay-z

Nobody Perfect ft-Missy Elliot

You acting like Cole aint do the same thing

Look at Wale. Has Had a feature on every single. Same with Meek Mill. Look at Jay-z. Outside of 1 or 2 songs he has had features on most of his singles his whole career.

Who Dat

Miss America

Lost Ones

where sean at?

and lol @ jay-z having features on "most of his singles outside of 1 or 2"

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

WorkOut by himself

Cant Get Enough ft- Trey Songz

Mr Nice Watch featuring ft-Jay-z

Nobody Perfect ft-Missy Elliot

You acting like Cole aint do the same thing

Look at Wale. Has Had a feature on every single. Same with Meek Mill. Look at Jay-z. Outside of 1 or 2 songs he has had features on most of his singles his whole career.

Who Dat

Miss America

Lost Ones

where sean at?

and lol @ jay-z having features on "most of his singles outside of 1 or 2"

Who Dat and Lost One wasn't released as official singles tho for the Cole World Album tho.

Look at Jay-z catalogue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z_discography#Singles

Feature heavy on his singles.

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

 

[Lab Baby]

Big Seans next 4 singles off his next album will be heavy on features bet. The light weight nigga has not released a single by himself yet.

WorkOut by himself

Cant Get Enough ft- Trey Songz

Mr Nice Watch featuring ft-Jay-z

Nobody Perfect ft-Missy Elliot

You acting like Cole aint do the same thing

Look at Wale. Has Had a feature on every single. Same with Meek Mill. Look at Jay-z. Outside of 1 or 2 songs he has had features on most of his singles his whole career.

Who Dat

Miss America

Lost Ones

where sean at?

and lol @ jay-z having features on "most of his singles outside of 1 or 2"

1 or 2 is hyperbole, but out of the 4-5 singles he puts out per album, he would have 1 by himself.

 

[DMTxTHC]

J Cole bodied Sean on Looking for Trouble and put the nail in the coffin on 24k of Gold.

Yeah.. Sean got clapped on Looking For Trouble.. Pusha had the second best verse imo..

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

Sean hasn't even released the official video for Guap. He would be stupid to drop a album without even having a video at least in rotation. Dec 18th is in 2 weeks. Who drops a album with no official video in rotation? That's what I mean by promotion. Do you know how long it took for My Last to take off? About 2 months. If a song is getting mad radio play I can't count it as a flop. Guap is still relatively new by radio standards.

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

Sean hasn't even released the official video for Guap. He would be stupid to drop a album without even having a video at least in rotation. Dec 18th is in 2 weeks. That's what I mean by promotion. Do you know how long it took for My Last to take off? About 2 months. If a song is getting mad radio play I can't count it as a flop. Guap is still relatively new by radio standards.

my last was his first major radio friendly single and it included start power in chris brown. it took that long cause he wasn't mainstream yet. Radio play is based on what big sean is critisizing (the label). If his so called fans liked guap it would have a higher spot on billboard and i tunes. After detriot and the cruel summer features which he killed people were waiting for seans next move. And he sumbled with a tropical island dring ass single.

Unless the music video is the song playing in the backround of a nikki minaj sextape the single won't get any more exposure than it has right now weeks after it dropped. If your basing success of def jam paying for air time instead of how its doing on the charts then you got it twisted lol.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

Sean hasn't even released the official video for Guap. He would be stupid to drop a album without even having a video at least in rotation. Dec 18th is in 2 weeks. That's what I mean by promotion. Do you know how long it took for My Last to take off? About 2 months. If a song is getting mad radio play I can't count it as a flop. Guap is still relatively new by radio standards.

my last was his first major radio friendly single and it included start power in chris brown. it took that long cause he wasn't mainstream yet. Radio play is based on what big sean is critisizing (the label). If his so called fans liked guap it would have a higher spot on billboard and i tunes. After detriot and the cruel summer features which he killed people were waiting for seans next move. And he sumbled with a tropical island dring ass single.

Unless the music video is the song playing in the backround of a nikki minaj sextape the single won't get any more exposure than it has right now weeks after it dropped. If your basing success of def jam paying for air time instead of how its doing on the charts then you got it twisted lol.

Itunes sales isn't the only thing Billboard measures....the Billboard Charts recently added digital sales -to its criteria acouple months ago

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

Sean hasn't even released the official video for Guap. He would be stupid to drop a album without even having a video at least in rotation. Dec 18th is in 2 weeks. That's what I mean by promotion. Do you know how long it took for My Last to take off? About 2 months. If a song is getting mad radio play I can't count it as a flop. Guap is still relatively new by radio standards.

my last was his first major radio friendly single and it included start power in chris brown. it took that long cause he wasn't mainstream yet. Radio play is based on what big sean is critisizing (the label). If his so called fans liked guap it would have a higher spot on billboard and i tunes. After detriot and the cruel summer features which he killed people were waiting for seans next move. And he sumbled with a tropical island dring ass single.

Unless the music video is the song playing in the backround of a nikki minaj sextape the single won't get any more exposure than it has right now weeks after it dropped. If your basing success of def jam paying for air time instead of how its doing on the charts then you got it twisted lol.

Itunes sales isn't the only thing Billboard measures....the Billboard Charts recently added digital sales -to its criteria acouple months ago

you didnt read my post. I said i tunes and billboard sales as 2 seperate things. I never said billboard just measures i tunes. I know billboard factors in all digital sales including those from other providers. The reason i said i tunes is because i tunes (without billboard) is a way to measure daily performance of songs based on the chart you can access on i tunes or the apple website. While not perfect its a better way to track current buzz.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I never heard one person say Sean had a good verse on Looking For Trouble til I came into this thread.

 

[DetroitBoi313]

Guap isn't even a flop. Song is getting mad play on the radio. Video was shot for it 2 weeks ago. Miss America that came and went.

the billboard charts and i tunes charts measure what people are buying and guap is missing in action on the hip hop and r&b billboard charts and on the i tunes charts its not on the first page or in the top 50. If guap was such a success the album would be released on its regular release date. But because it flopped sean pushed that shit back. He can say all he wants about needing more time to fix stuff but it comes down to niggas not liking the single.

Album wasn't push back because of the single tho. He pushed it back because he didn't want Def Jam to release it without giving the album the proper promotion. He felt that he rushed Finally Famous and didn't want to make the same mistake with this album.

so that is what he says that might not be the full reason. if guap was top 10 on the charts right now that is all the promo you need. For any artist while label promo can help its all about how your music is buzzing in the streets/radio etc. You can do all the promo you want if you follow up a dope mixtape you give out for free with a track like guap that is inferior to any song on detrroit you will not get people to buy an album.

A rule of thumb for flops...if you cant find it on the hip hop R&B charts a few weeks after it drops then its a flop....you got songs from the summer on that shit and guap cant crack that lol.

Sean hasn't even released the official video for Guap. He would be stupid to drop a album without even having a video at least in rotation. Dec 18th is in 2 weeks. That's what I mean by promotion. Do you know how long it took for My Last to take off? About 2 months. If a song is getting mad radio play I can't count it as a flop. Guap is still relatively new by radio standards.

my last was his first major radio friendly single and it included start power in chris brown. it took that long cause he wasn't mainstream yet. Radio play is based on what big sean is critisizing (the label). If his so called fans liked guap it would have a higher spot on billboard and i tunes. After detriot and the cruel summer features which he killed people were waiting for seans next move. And he sumbled with a tropical island dring ass single.

Unless the music video is the song playing in the backround of a nikki minaj sextape the single won't get any more exposure than it has right now weeks after it dropped. If your basing success of def jam paying for air time instead of how its doing on the charts then you got it twisted lol.

The music video not being ready is one of the reason why the album was pushed back. Plus on top of that Sean been touring like crazy last month. Get back in about a month to see if Guap is officially a flop. Fuck it I will be making that thread.