Why are the vast majority of all hip-hop haters centralized on the east coast??????

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Miles HIGH;1632936 said:
Right, but just cause it's wack to you, doesn't mean you have to tell me, or try to convince me that you're right. That's the attitude that a lot of people have period, and it's the wrong one. But we in the south notice it so much more coming from northerners towards us. Like they feel this need to tell us how wack they think our whole way of life is. And a lot of times, they form this opinion without really even knowing what they're talkin about. They just pick a few artists they hear on the radio, or see on t.v., and think that's the best the south has to offer. No, that's just the niggas who made it, for whatever reason. And even then, they can't seem to understand that those mainstream artists still make catchy relatable songs, however lyrically deficient they may be. Just cause you don't get it, doesn't mean my taste is bad, or I'm slow, or that you're superior to me. It just means you don't get it. If you don't wanna get it, cool. But just let that be that, don't try to tell me I'm wrong, or my region is talentless.

I hear ya bruh... but as an East Coast cat that's been around since the beginning of hip hop (sugar Hill Gang, Kurtis Blow, GMF, GW Theodore, etc) I do have a bias towards my home base. But I think we all do and that's cool. We all have different tastes and opinions. But it's when people say shit like "Rakim is wack" and the "East Coast ain shit" is when you know that even tho the culture has spread sooo far that facts and history don't matter. Sure you can like Wacka but if you can't appreciate those that created the art, what can you appreciate?
 
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I wish the two sides can just form an understanding one day. But that'll never happen because we are raised in different situations with different sounds and slangs. So the most we could do is reach for respect. Right now, It's seeming like niggas in this thread are mad at the "swagger" (I fuckin hate that word now) of New Yorkers for what ever reason. It really makes people mad. We need to overcome that.
 
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aone415;1633001 said:
I hear ya bruh... but as an East Coast cat that's been around since the beginning of hip hop (sugar Hill Gang, Kurtis Blow, GMF, GW Theodore, etc) I do have a bias towards my home base. But I think we all do and that's cool. We all have different tastes and opinions. But it's when people say shit like "Rakim is wack" and the "East Coast ain shit" is when you know that even tho the culture has spread sooo far that facts and history don't matter. Sure you can like Wacka but if you can't appreciate those that created the art, what can you appreciate?

Yeah, see that, I completely agree with. Growin up in South Carolina, all I used to listen to was southern shit and more popular western shit like Too Short, Snoop, Bone Thugs(even though they midwest). New York music was everywhere, and a strong influence on the industry, but I couldn't really get into it like that, except for the usual Jay-Z, Nas, etc. But as I grew up, and learned that there was more out here than that, I started listening to everything and tryna understand why a nigga would like Big L, or who the fuck Slum Village is, etc. And I completely appreciate the history of the culture and the O.G.'s from the Golden Era. I had to go back and do my homework though, cause I wasn't around to witness that shit. So with that said, I'm never gonna just blatantly say everything from NY is wack, so I hate when niggas come down here and get disrespectful simply cause they don't understand why we bump rappers like Trick Daddy, Young Dro, Yo Gotti, Playaz Circle, B.G., Field Mob, etc.
 
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NothingButTheTruth;1632713 said:
Because y'all allow wack people to shine. You guys stay ruining the perception of Hip-Hop with your coonish tactics...

Soulja Boy

Master P

Baby

Gucci

Young Joc

Waka

Nelly

Chingy

Young Dro

Project Pat

Lil Jon

D4L

UNK

Ying Yang Twins

Silk Shocker

Mike Jones

Slim Thug

etc.

FLAVOR FUCKING FLAV

ol' dirty bastard

kwame

pappose

mims

mase

"killa" LOL cam

babs

tony gayo

the entire leaders of the new school except busta

puffy

the enitre bad boy records

fat man scoop

dmx-after he became a fulltime crackhead

kid & play

etc.

nigga please dont you understand that flavor flav by himself set black people back 50 years!!! dont you know that!!! flavor flav is the mantan minstrel in real fucking life. every thing that public eneny built over the last 20+ years flavor flav destroyed in the last 5. nigga please. we are still trying to clean up the mess that ol' dirty left. that nigga was the biggest coon since amos and andy. ol' stereotype ass niggas. you wanna talk coons look at the black eye them two niggas alone gave the game. them niggas fucked it up b4 the south every stepped on the stage. hypocrite ass niggas. hell yeah yinh yang is a disgrace but flavor fucking flav isnt?!?!? nigga please. they beem that flavor flav bullshit all over the fucking globe. niggas in china are looking at president obama funny b/c he doesnt have a fucking clock around his fucking neck. nigga please. hypocritical ass nigga. tell flav to set his new york coon ass down. and if them old washed up ass wu-tang niggas had told ol' dirty to sit his colored ass down back in the day maybe they would have more creditability when it came to wacka who is garbage by the way. but deal with niggas like flav and all them wack ass commercial ass niggas on bad boy then we can talk. hypocrite
 
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ustreet_monsta;1631562 said:
Its mostly just NY. Dont blame the whole East Coast for New Yorkers arrogance and undeserved sense of entitlement.

This is the realest shit. NY niggas dont understand why people dont throw roses at they feet where ever they are.
 
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skpjr78;1633067 said:
FLAVOR FUCKING FLAV
ol' dirty bastard
kwame
pappose
mims
mase
"killa" LOL cam
babs
tony gayo
the entire leaders of the new school except busta
puffy
the enitre bad boy records
fat man scoop
dmx-after he became a fulltime crackhead
kid & play
etc.

nigga please dont you understand that flavor flav by himself set black people back 50 years!!! dont you know that!!! flavor flav is the mantan minstrel in real fucking life. every thing that public eneny built over the last 20+ years flavor flav destroyed in the last 5. nigga please. we are still trying to clean up the mess that ol' dirty left. that nigga was the biggest coon since amos and andy. ol' stereotype ass niggas. you wanna talk coons look at the black eye them two niggas alone gave the game. them niggas fucked it up b4 the south every stepped on the stage. hypocrite ass niggas. hell yeah yinh yang is a disgrace but flavor fucking flav isnt?!?!? nigga please. they beem that flavor flav bullshit all over the fucking globe. niggas in china are looking at president obama funny b/c he doesnt have a fucking clock around his fucking neck. nigga please. hypocritical ass nigga. tell flav to set his new york coon ass down. and if them old washed up ass wu-tang niggas had told ol' dirty to sit his colored ass down back in the day maybe they would have more creditability when it came to wacka who is garbage by the way. but deal with niggas like flav and all them wack ass commercial ass niggas on bad boy then we can talk. hypocrite

Really???? I mean we could do this til the end of time... I mean I could add to the list of wack South niggas and I could run a page or 2 of assclown ass sambos. So what? At the end it's about what YOU like and how I perceive it, and vice versa. SMH at niggas acting like like coonin is exclusive to one region in the country. Also SMH at Southern niggas that don't believe that some of they're favorite rappers are indeed, COONS. For real Lil Jon was @ the center of the hip-hop universe a few years back and his hype men drank "crunk juice" out of a Tide bottle and were named Big Sam and Lil Bo. I mean that's some ultimate coon shit. And yeah Flav is a coon of epic proportions, but until 2005, he was always balanced by Chuck. Still that nigga is a disgrace and should be shunned. The difference is that NY niggas don't tolerate that bullshit whereas it APPEARS that Southern dudes do.
 
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skpjr78;1633067 said:
FLAVOR FUCKING FLAV
ol' dirty bastard
kwame
pappose
mims
mase
"killa" LOL cam
babs
tony gayo
the entire leaders of the new school except busta
puffy
the enitre bad boy records
fat man scoop
dmx-after he became a fulltime crackhead
kid & play
etc.

nigga please dont you understand that flavor flav by himself set black people back 50 years!!! dont you know that!!! flavor flav is the mantan minstrel in real fucking life. every thing that public eneny built over the last 20+ years flavor flav destroyed in the last 5. nigga please. we are still trying to clean up the mess that ol' dirty left. that nigga was the biggest coon since amos and andy. ol' stereotype ass niggas. you wanna talk coons look at the black eye them two niggas alone gave the game. them niggas fucked it up b4 the south every stepped on the stage. hypocrite ass niggas. hell yeah yinh yang is a disgrace but flavor fucking flav isnt?!?!? nigga please. they beem that flavor flav bullshit all over the fucking globe. niggas in china are looking at president obama funny b/c he doesnt have a fucking clock around his fucking neck. nigga please. hypocritical ass nigga. tell flav to set his new york coon ass down. and if them old washed up ass wu-tang niggas had told ol' dirty to sit his colored ass down back in the day maybe they would have more creditability when it came to wacka who is garbage by the way. but deal with niggas like flav and all them wack ass commercial ass niggas on bad boy then we can talk. hypocrite

You seem angry...

When Flava-Flav's legacy is perused years from now people will mock him for his coonish antics and praise him for being a member of one of Hiphops greatest and socially conscious groups...not many artists are fortunate to have something that redeemable to off-set their misdeeds.

When you speak negatively about Bad Boy do you include Young Joc and his Grammy nominated songs with them?? What about Young Jeezy when he was signed to Bad-Boy South??

Was Ol Dirty Bastards behavior worse than C-Murda murdering a black child??

Was "Flava of Love" any worse than 3-6 Mafias "Hollyhood" or Plies "Goonette" Lukes "Parental Advisory" or the Ying Yang twins on "Cribs"??

You called Wu-tang "washed-up" as if Geto Boyz has a buzz other than Willie Dee going to prison.

Its odd hearing a poster talk about "commercial-ass-rappers" when LiL Wayne and Young Money are the most commercial brand in HipHop.

[video=youtube;gA88lEZJBdY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA88lEZJBdY[/video]
 
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aone415;1633127 said:
Really???? I mean we could do this til the end of time... I mean I could add to the list of wack South niggas and I could run a page or 2 of assclown ass sambos. So what? At the end it's about what YOU like and how I perceive it, and vice versa. SMH at niggas acting like like coonin is exclusive to one region in the country. Also SMH at Southern niggas that don't believe that some of they're favorite rappers are indeed, COONS. For real Lil Jon was @ the center of the hip-hop universe a few years back and his hype men drank "crunk juice" out of a Tide bottle and were named Big Sam and Lil Bo. I mean that's some ultimate coon shit. And yeah Flav is a coon of epic proportions, but until 2005, he was always balanced by Chuck. Still that nigga is a disgrace and should be shunned. The difference is that NY niggas don't tolerate that bullshit whereas it APPEARS that Southern dudes do.

dude how is somebody a coon for just being himself. if somebody;s ghetto they ghetto. should

they go in the house and hide so they dont embarass u. NEWSFLASH.the hood is fucked up and it produces some ignorant ass

ppl.
 
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politicalthug202;1633144 said:
dude how is somebody a coon for just being himself. if somebody;s ghetto they ghetto. should
they go in the house and hide so they dont embarass u. NEWSFLASH.the hood is fucked up and it produces some ignorant ass
ppl.

There's a difference in being oneself and being a coon... If you're an outlandish character that wears funny clothes and cannot articulate the English language and you are relatively anonymous, then you are not a coon you're just the village idiot. If you do all of the above and you are on TV weekly and because of this, you amplify your ignorant behavior, you've moved out of the village idiot category and into the COON palace
 
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a_list;1632529 said:
damn....sun created a monster with this one......but yo stop crying if niggas dont like shyt that you like im sittin here watchn an old killarmy video and i kno since yall dudes cant dance to it yall wont like it but who cares lol

Killarmy/ Suns of man are the shit :D
 
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aone415;1633170 said:
There's a difference in being oneself and being a coon... If you're an outlandish character that wears funny clothes and cannot articulate the English language and you are relatively anonymous, then you are not a coon you're just the village idiot. If you do all of the above and you are on TV weekly and because of this, you amplify your ignorant behavior, you've moved out of the village idiot category and into the COON palace

no how about some ppl are ignorant and other ignorant ppl like to watch ignorant ppl on tv.

so they make money off it. nothing more nothing less.
 
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politicalthug202;1633213 said:
no how about some ppl are ignorant and other ignorant ppl like to watch ignorant ppl on tv.
so they make money off it. nothing more nothing less.

coon 2400 up, 944 down

buy coon mugs, tshirts and magnets
A coon is a black actor or actress, who takes roles that stereotypically portrays black people. They think theyve made it but they are slaves to the same images. A.k.a sellout
It comes from the term baracoons (a cage), where they used to place Africans, who were waiting to be sent to America to be slaves. They had no idea of this, so some of them were even eager waiting in the baracoons.

Examples- Roles or advertisements were black people:
-play basketball
-rap about a product
-are obsessed with money or chicken
-have a lot of video hoes
-have names that show that they are black (kwame, darnel, any two capital letters (JT, TJ, AJ, TC, JJ), any female name ending in a "qua",

excessively use old terms we made up like
-woo wee
-bling bling
-yo
-holla
-im da man, you da man
-thats wack yo
-daaaamn!
-or anyterm that white people have begun to acknowledge, use and accept.
-(I hope you get the idea- this happens everyday)
Black guy on commercial or in movie: Woo wee! Boy do I love me some chicken, where da Koolaid at?

Person watching: What a coon!

That pretty much sums up Flav
 
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NothingButTheTruth;1632713 said:
Because y'all allow wack people to shine. You guys stay ruining the perception of Hip-Hop with your coonish tactics...

Soulja Boy

Master P

Baby

Gucci

Young Joc

Waka

Nelly

Chingy

Young Dro

Project Pat

Lil Jon

D4L

UNK

Ying Yang Twins

Silk Shocker

Mike Jones

Slim Thug

etc.

What you mean we allow?? I'm pretty those artists you just named have/had fans outside the south who supported their music. Y'all niggas up north listen to Gucci. Alotta y'all also supported Nelly in the beginning of his career. Stop trying to act like y'all ear for hip-hop is so much better than everyone else's, especially when yall support the same stuff y'all call bullshit but won't go out and buy Distant Relatives.
 
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StillDreaming;1633298 said:
What you mean we allow?? I'm pretty those artists you just named have/had fans outside the south who supported their music. Y'all niggas up north listen to Gucci. Alotta y'all also supported Nelly in the beginning of his career. Stop trying to act like y'all ear for hip-hop is so much better than everyone else's, especially when yall support the same stuff y'all call bullshit but won't go out and buy Distant Relatives.

This^^^^^^^^^

But, also, IF A NIGGA MADE IT, HE MADE IT, SIMPLE AS THAT. It doesn't mean that everybody who's from where he's from listens to him and only him all day every day. I listen to Gucci Mane, that doesn't mean I agree with all his messages or co-sign all his music. That just means I feel his shit cause it's familiar to me.
 
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Miles HIGH;1632936 said:
Right, but just cause it's wack to you, doesn't mean you have to tell me, or try to convince me that you're right. That's the attitude that a lot of people have period, and it's the wrong one. But we in the south notice it so much more coming from northerners towards us. Like they feel this need to tell us how wack they think our whole way of life is. And a lot of times, they form this opinion without really even knowing what they're talkin about. They just pick a few artists they hear on the radio, or see on t.v., and think that's the best the south has to offer. No, that's just the niggas who made it, for whatever reason. And even then, they can't seem to understand that those mainstream artists still make catchy relatable songs, however lyrically deficient they may be. Just cause you don't get it, doesn't mean my taste is bad, or I'm slow, or that you're superior to me. It just means you don't get it. If you don't wanna get it, cool. But just let that be that, don't try to tell me I'm wrong, or my region is talentless.
flawless post..
 
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1st whoever said the South or where ever was more of a "Melting Pot" than NYC is lying. NYC has the most diversity in one place than anywhere in the U.S. I can get on a train and the whole joint looks like the united nations. Queens is the most diverse place in America as far as the most cultures in one place. NYC you can walk down the street and hear tons of different languages. Yes Cali has a strong Latino population but so does NYC. We have it all here. I've lived in the South and it's still to much "Black/White" issues even now after all these years. I've been out West also. Never really been to the midwest.

The bottom line some of you can call NYC haters or whatever but without New York, Hip Hop wouldn't be where it is today on a global scale. NYC has it's wack rappers just like anyone else, but NYC's best rappers and groups pretty much outshine ever region in Hip Hop History. So again, don't be mad and upset NYC has high standards of Hip Hop. The creators of the genre should have high standards. I'm not a South Hater, I was born in the south and think they got the rawest deal out of any region, but the level of trash Hip Hop coming out of the South surpasses any region and most of the time my southern brothers get defensive and defend that mess instead of calling it out. Say what you want but NYC calls out it's garbage. So it's not like we just call out other regions, NYC rappers have to go through so much to even get respected on their own city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

New York is the most populous city in the United States, and the center of the New York metropolitan area, which is one of the most populous metropolitan areas in the world. A leading global city, New York exerts a powerful influence over global commerce, finance, media, culture, art, fashion, research, education, and entertainment. As host of the United Nations Headquarters, it is also an important center for international affairs. The city is often referred to as New York City or the City of New York to distinguish it from the state of New York, of which it is a part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens

In Queen these neighborhoods comprise the most diverse county in the United States.[57] Several of these neighborhoods are home to a diverse mix of many different ethnicities. In Queens there are over 150 Languages that are spoken which is a record for the United States for one place. In Queens, the black population earns more than whites on average.[72] Many of these African Americans live in quiet, middle class suburban neighborhoods near the Nassau County border, such as Laurelton and Cambria Heights which have large black populations whose family income is higher than average. Those areas are known for their well kept homes, suburban feel, and low crime rate.

So Black Americans in New York (Queens) make more than Whites and have the most income for Blacks in one place in America. NYC is the mecca, like it or not Hip Hop orgins are there.
 
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rapmastermind;1633803 said:
1st whoever said the South or whereever was more of a "Melting Pot" than NYC is lying. NYC has the most diversity in one place than anywhere in the U.S. I can get on a train and the whole joint looks like the united nations. Queens is the most diverse place in America as far as the most cultures in one place. NYC you can walk down the street and hear tons of different languages. Yes Cali has a strong Latino population but so does NYC. We have it all here. I've lived in the South and it's still to much "Black/White" issues even now after all these years. I've been out West also. Never really been to the midwest.

The bottom line some of you can call NYC haters or whatever but without New York, Hip Hop wouldn't be where it is today on a global scale. NYC has it's wack rappers just like anyone else, but NYC's best rappers and groups pretty much outshine ever region in Hip Hop History. So again, don't be mad and upset NYC has high standards of Hip Hop. The creators of the genre should have high standards. I'm not a South Hater, I was born in the south and think they got the rawest deal out of any region, but the level of trash Hip Hop coming out of the South surpasses any region and most of the time my southern brothers get defensive and defend that mess instead of calling it out. Say what you want but NYC calls out it's garbage. So it's not like we just call out other regions, NYC rappers have to go through so much to even get respected on their own city.

I co-sign this post..and I'm from the South. I have a high standard when it comes to Hip Hop myself. That's what wrong with the peeps down here..afraid to call out trash knowing that's exactly what it is.
 
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