White Supremacist rally in Charlottesville

[BobOblah]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

 

[Copper]

As a matter of fact BLM people have been shot by white people while protesting

 

[Undefeatable]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

That's a point that I have made myself: The cop-shooters were people who reject the peaceful protest approach of BLM. But people seem to miss this point, and it may not be because they are deliberately being obtuse. Furthermore, some of the protests turned violent (e.g. in Baltimore) before anyone shot any cops.

 

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/vir...ack-on-his-own-familys-heritage-on-monuments/

Virginia GOP Deletes Tweet Saying Dem ‘Turned His Back on His Own Family’s Heritage’ on Monuments

Following the events of Charlottesville, the controversy over Confederate monuments is turning into one of many campaign issues in the Virginia gubernatorial race.

Last week Democrat Ralph Northam, the state’s current lieutenant governor, said in a statement, “I support City of Charlottesville’s decision to remove the Robert E. Lee statue. I believe these statues should be taken down and moved into museums. As governor, I am going to be a vocal advocate for that approach and work with localities on this issue.”

Republican Ed Gillespie said he believes “decisions about historical statues are best made at the local level, but they should stay and be placed in historical context.”

The Virginia Republican Party criticized Northam over his decision on Twitter today by saying that he “turned his back on his own family’s heritage.”

The tweet has since been deleted. Here’s a screengrab:

That initial tweet got a lot of blowback on Twitter already, including from Northam himself:
https://twitter.com/RalphNortham/status/900419227848519680
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/900412274908811264
https://twitter.com/GrahamDavidA/status/900412995565694976
https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/900411706911977472

The Washington Post‘s report contains this explanation from state GOP executive director John Findlay:

John Findlay, executive director of the state GOP, said the party was not suggesting Northam should stand with his ancestors as slave holders, but as soldiers who fought and were wounded in war.

“We said that Ralph Northam is turning his back on his heritage and family. It is because his great-grandfather fought for the side of the Confederacy and was wounded during the Civil War,” Findlay said. “When he wants to tear down monuments dedicated to those killed in action and wounded during the war, he is literally talking about a member of his own family.”

After the tweet was deleted, the Virginia GOP posted this:
https://twitter.com/VA_GOP/status/900443931539890176

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Both armed and unarmed blacks have been defeated by the hands of state departments in control they dish out more punishment for us rather than we have for them

I agree violence should not be our first order of business disregarding it entirely shouldnt be an option either since time shows us they motives have nothing to do with black empowerment

 

[5th Letter]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

BLM is literally anyone they say is BLM, black person does something against a white person the media labels that black person as BLM. Look at Micah Johnson for example he was labeled as BLM, when he clearly stated that he wasn't affiliated with no organizations or groups.

 

[janklow]

Arm yourselves folks

and stop voting for politicians that want to disarm you

Like who nigga? Name names. You sound like you talking outta your ass.

I know not one politician trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment. Not one.

please, cut the fucking "they don't want to get rid of the Second Amendment" shit. that's not how it's done. you start requiring more and more demanding licensing, start attacking "assault weapons," start attacking magazines, work to kill ranges through re-zoning, etc.

names? essentially any politician with a fucking D after their name. you don't hear Kamala Harris bitching about the need to ban guns? or Elizabeth Warren? go get a default position from your local DNC figures.

 

[janklow]

I keep telling you all that @ghostdog56 @Plutarch @blackgod813 @"5th Letter" @D. Morgan @CapitalB @ineedpussy and @janklow are all either undercover racists that steal black pictures to pose as their own........or they're some of the dumbest black folk that I've ever come across.

The shit that they've pushed in this thread is similar to the shit they pushed before the election, which was all done to make the readers of these threads dumber and more prone to not vote.

not going to waste any more effort on your trashposting beyond saying "shut the fuck up with your ignorant nonsense." same old shit from you because you can't bother to read posts or debate anything.

 

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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/900473222147317761

 

[BobOblah]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

BLM is literally anyone they say is BLM, black person does something against a white person the media labels that black person as BLM. Look at Micah Johnson for example he was labeled as BLM, when he clearly stated that he wasn't affiliated with no organizations or groups.

Because they desperately need to discredit BLM and want be able to say they are violent. Same way enemies of black progress tried they're hardest to discredit civil rights groups and leaders in the 60s. And yup, even Micah Johnson knew this so made a point to say he's not affiliated with BLM before that Dallas shit

 

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

BLM is literally anyone they say is BLM, black person does something against a white person the media labels that black person as BLM. Look at Micah Johnson for example he was labeled as BLM, when he clearly stated that he wasn't affiliated with no organizations or groups.

In bold for truth.. Plus he got kicked out of the local BLM groups where he lived.. Because the nigga was acting unstable.. If anybody deserves blame for Micah Johnson or the other nigga who killed those pigs in Louisiana.. It's military since both of those niggas use to be in the service.. So government turned those niggas into killing machines not BLM or any other black activists.. But no one is going to blame the military because they're sacred cow in this country.. And always it's easier to just put the blame on black folks in Amerikkka…

 

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

BLM is literally anyone they say is BLM, black person does something against a white person the media labels that black person as BLM. Look at Micah Johnson for example he was labeled as BLM, when he clearly stated that he wasn't affiliated with no organizations or groups.

Because they desperately need to discredit BLM and want be able to say they are violent. Same way enemies of black progress tried they're hardest to discredit civil rights groups and leaders in the 60s. And yup, even Micah Johnson knew this so made a point to say he's not affiliated with BLM before that Dallas shit

Yet there are still black people who going right along with that bullshit and even helping promote it.

These types of people who will sabotage a movement because they don't like how some black people are treating white people.

 

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article168766842.html

Pittenger asks: Why aren’t liberals condemning Black Lives Matter and others?

Rep. Robert Pittenger, a Republican congressman from North Carolina, said Tuesday President Donald Trump is getting unfairly blasted for his comments about the deadly Charlottesville rally, arguing that liberals haven’t condemned Black Lives Matter and other groups for their “hate and violence.”

“It’s a bit disingenuous to me that so much pressure and criticism has been put on President Trump for what he didn’t say, and yet when these things happen on the other side, silence,” Pittenger, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable incumbents, said in an interview on a Fayetteville radio station.

“You look at the actions of Black Lives Matter and people like Al Sharpton who have not condemned it – we never heard President Obama condemn the violence of Black Lives Matter,” Pittenger said on WFNC radio’s “Good Morning Fayetteville.”

Pittenger later clarified his remarks. “While I have condemned white supremacists, I made no direct connection between Black Lives Matter and KKK,” he told McClatchy. “However, there is the reality of hate and violence with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and why should they be given a pass?”

Democrats and Republicans have criticized Trump for appearing to find moral equivocation between the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who organized and participated in the August 12 Charlottesville rally and the counter protesters who opposed them.

The event became an ugly skirmish that left one woman dead. Two Virginia state troopers were also killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol during the rallies.

Trump, responding to the tragedy, said “I think there’s blame on both sides” and added that protesters in Charlottesville included some “very fine” people.

Pittnger asked, “Why is it okay to call out white supremacists but this ‘antifa’ group – their whole scope and mission is violence.” He was referring to the group whose mission is combating fascism and white nationalism.

The #BlackLivesMatter hashtag gained prominence on social media after the 2013 acquittal of George Zimmerman, who was charged in the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Florida.

The first Black Lives Matter protests came after the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old black man, three years ago by a white Ferguson, Missouri police officer. Black Lives Matter activists have protested at hundreds of events across the nation in the years since, often after the death of a black man or boy in police-involved shootings.

Though Black Lives Matter leaders say the movement is not violent and not anti-police, many — particularly on the right — have accused the group of fostering violence. Earlier this month, state Sen. Dan Bishop, a Republican from Mecklenburg County, said Black Lives Matter and those waiving Nazi flags were "both violent, racist movements."

Pittenger added Tuesday: “I don’t think you can give a pass to people who support the antifa movement or Black Lives Matter movement when they are just as engaged in hate.”

When asked whether he can compare Black Lives Matter to Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, Pittenger said, “Hate in all forms is wrong…are we justified to give a pass to ‘antifa,’ who promote violence, and instigators.”

He noted the September 2016 protests in Charlotte following the fatal police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a 43-year-old black man. The officer was also black.

“We found out, clearly, that was promoted by instigators who came in,” Pittenger said. “You never heard somebody calling that out. Where was Al Sharpton to calling that out? Would have this been the expression of Martin Luther King? No. Where’s the spirit of Martin Luther King in all of this?”

Pittenger also recalled his controversial comment in a BBC interview in September 2016 that some of the black protesters in Charlotte “hate white people because white people are successful and they’re not.” He later apologized for the remarks.

Pittenger in the radio interview Tuesday said he was merely repeating what a black protester was conveying on television in 2016.

“There was an African-American young man, you could see the lack of hope in his eyes, he had nowhere to go in his life, and he said on TV ‘I hate all white people,’” Pittenger recalled. “What he was saying was ‘I have nothing.’ I repeated what he said and then I got into trouble for saying it because they somehow blamed me that I said it…it was reporting what someone else said.”

Pittenger won a tight three-way race for the Republican nomination in 2016, defeating Mark Harris by 134 votes. Pittenger won the general election with more than 58 percent of the vote easily defeating Democrat Christian Cano.

Harris has announced he is running again in 2018. Cano is one of three Democrats competing for the seat, including Maria Collins Warren and Dan McCready, who has raised more than $459,000 already.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has targeted Pittenger’s district as one it hopes to flip in 2018. The district includes Fayetteville and Lumberton in the east and runs along the South Carolina border to include parts of Scotland, Richmond, Anson, Union and Mecklenburg counties.

DCCC officials jumped on Pittenger’s comments Tuesday night.

"For any Member of Congress to defend the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, particularly after their actions and the actions of other white supremacists cost a young woman in Charlottesville her life, is unacceptable,” said Cole Leiter, a DCCC spokesman. “But for Congressman Pittenger, it is simply the most recent episode in his history of racist remarks followed by half-hearted apologies.

“There is no "both sides" when it comes to defending white supremacists and it's past time Congressman Pittenger learn that from the North Carolina families he claims to represent."

The idea that Black Lives Matter is a hate group is just completely ridiculous.

But the idea that BLM is a violent group is not completely ridiculous. I feel vindicated when I said that the violence, especially the shooting of cops, was going to hurt the cause. Cause it has. It gave our enemies something to point back the fingers at us.

I still strongly support BLM, but we gotta be smarter with this shit.

Yes it is.

BLM never shot anyone or promoted violence. It's just protest and organizing. It ain't BLM fault that cops kill so many unarmed black folk that a couple niggas in Dallas and NY snapped and started shooting cops. They weren't BLM.

BLM is literally anyone they say is BLM, black person does something against a white person the media labels that black person as BLM. Look at Micah Johnson for example he was labeled as BLM, when he clearly stated that he wasn't affiliated with no organizations or groups.

In bold for truth.. Plus he got kicked out of the local BLM groups where he lived.. Because the nigga was acting unstable.. If anybody deserves blame for Micah Johnson or the other nigga killed that those pigs Louisiana.. It's military since both those niggas use to be in the service.. So government turned those niggas into killing machines not BLM or any other black activists.. But no one is going to blame the military because they're sacred cow in this country.. And always it's easier to just put the blame on black folks in Amerikkka…

Good post and some black people will even deny this

 

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The former leader of the damn KKK was there.

Why would he want to help Obama by hurting his boy Trump?

White ppl are fucking stupid.

He isn't stupid by saying this asinine comment but he is betting on the people who are on the fence to be this stupid. lol.

Some people actually believe crazy conspiracy stuff like this. How would the governor and former president know how the current president would handle this situation? Lol. Like you stated some people are fucking stupid and that is what this guys is banking on saying what he did

 

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/doj-visit-charlottesville-host-community-recovery-town-hall

DOJ Will Visit Charlottesville To Host ‘Community Recovery Town Hall’

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — Charlottesville residents are getting a chance to talk with city officials about a white nationalist rally earlier this month that devolved into deadly violence.

The city is hosting what it calls a “community recovery town hall” Thursday evening, in collaboration with the Community Relations Services of the Department of Justice. Officials will provide an update on “recovery efforts” and offer opportunities for public comment, according to a news release.

“Our community has been shaken to its core,” City Manager Maurice Jones said in a statement. “We see this partnership with CRS as the beginning of a process of recovery and renewal.”

The event comes a day after workers covered two Confederate statues in black to mourn the death of a woman who was killed while protesting the rally.

It’s been nearly two weeks since the event, which attracted what’s believed to be the largest gathering of white nationalists in at least a decade.

Rally attendees and counter-protesters fought in the streets. Heather Heyer was killed when a car plowed into demonstrators during a march, and two state troopers died in a helicopter crash that day.

Some residents have criticized city officials for granting a permit for the rally, and others have said police didn’t do enough to keep the two sides apart or stop the fighting.

City officials already got some feedback at a council meeting earlier this week when scores of people packed the chamber, shouting and cursing at members. The angry crowd forced the council to abandon its agenda. Instead, the panel heard hours of public comment.

In other developments Wednesday, Christopher Cantwell, a white nationalist from Keene, New Hampshire, turned himself in to face three felony charges in Virginia, authorities said. Cantwell was wanted by University of Virginia police on two counts of the illegal use of tear gas or other gases and one count of malicious bodily injury with a “caustic substance,” explosive or fire.

University police issued a brief statement late Wednesday saying Cantwell turned himself in to police in nearby Lynchburg, Virginia, where he was being held at a regional jail pending transport to Charlottesville.

It wasn’t immediately known if Cantwell has a lawyer.

Contacted by The Associated Press on Tuesday, Cantwell acknowledged he had pepper-sprayed a counter-demonstrator during an Aug. 11 protest on the campus of the University of Virginia the day before the rally. But he insisted he was defending himself, saying he did it “because my only other option was knocking out his teeth.” He also said he was looking forward to his day in court.

 

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/trump-focus-group/index.html

These Trump supporters think Charlottesville was a false flag operation

(CNN)The whole Charlottesville protest was a purposeful provocation by the liberal left to hurt President Trump.

That's the view of several Trump supporters CNN's Alisyn Camerota sat down with to gauge their views of current events and how President Donald Trump is handling them. One segment of that conversation -- focused on racially charged violence in Charlottesville -- aired this morning.

"I think a great portion of it is a conspiracy," said L.A. Key. "I think it was a setup." Asked by Camerota who organized this conspiracy, Key responded: "I think people who want to derail our President."

Later, Key added that protesters were "coming off the same bus with some wearing Black Lives Matter and some wearing the KKK shirts. They were brought in to cause a controversy. Right?"

Added Robert McCarthy, another Trump supporter: "The protesters, the antifa people had an ad on Craigslist recruiting people for $25 an hour to show up for the protest in Charlottesville. It's all over the place."

(CNN's Leigh Munsil did some searching to find these alleged videos. The closest she could find was this video -- in which a man in a car recounts these "stories" about people in KKK shirts and BLM shirts getting on buses next to one another. The narrator of this video appears to be citing something he was told by someone else.

And the $25-an-hour rate showed up in posts like this one, which showed a screenshot of an unverified Craigslist ad for actors wanted in *Charlotte, North Carolina* -- but with the headline: "Did Crowds on Demand bus rioters into Charlottesville, Virginia?")

Asked what he meant by having seen the information "all over the place," McCarthy said he had see "a lot of it on Facebook" -- a source he said he trusts far more than the mainstream media, despite the fact that he couldn't necessarily trace the origins or source of the videos he was watching or information he was reading.

At another point in the conversation with Camerota, another female Trump supporter said that she saw videos on Facebook which prove that Trump was right when he said not everyone protesting in Charlottesville was a neo-Nazi or a white supremacist. Pressed by Camerota on whether the videos could be fake, the woman responds "could be."

So, here we are.

It's important to note that roughly 63 million people voted for Donald Trump. The six people Camerota interviewed represent .000009% of those Trump voters. So, to say "everyone" who supports Trump thinks exactly like this is a vast over-simplification and flat-out wrong.

Still, the Camerota interview sheds light on a few common elements among those who still remain totally committed to Trump:

1. Massive distrust of the media
   
2. Dependence on a group of like-minded Facebook friends to curate the news for them
   
3. A deep-seated belief that "both sides do it" -- regardless of what "it" is -- but the media only covers conservatives doing it
   
4. Willingness to engage with conspiracy theories that affirm points 1-3
   

The idea that a man sitting in a car recounting something someone told him about Charlottesville is cited as real evidence of a false flag operation speaks to how people are forever in search of things that affirm their points of view -- and a search on Facebook appears all-too-willing to accommodate.

That's a scary place to be -- no matter where you fall on the political spectrum.

 

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https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/am...e-from-angry-customers-after-charlottesville/

America’s last Confederate flag maker sees another surge from ‘angry’ customers after Charlottesville

An Alabama company that may be the last in the U.S. to make Confederate flags can barely keep up with demand after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville.

Alabama Flag & Banner started making the flags two years ago, after retailers pulled Confederate flags following the murders of nine black worshipers at a South Carolina church by a racist gunman, reported AL.com.

Major flag manufacturers stopped making the historical banners, but the Huntsville-based company filled the gap for hundreds of U.S. retailers that still stocked the flags.

“After the church shooting, Amazon and Walmart stopped selling it and people were afraid they wouldn’t be able to buy it,” said longtime owner Belinda Kennedy, “and then you started seeing streets renamed, schools being renamed, mountains being renamed — and then people started getting angry, and then there’s another surge.”

The Charlottesville rally, where a counter-protester was killed by a neo-Nazi sympathizer, has prompted another contentious debate about Confederate flags and memorials, and Kennedy said that’s boosted sales.

Her company has sold an average of 600 to 800 Confederate flags since 2015, but Kennedy has gotten more than 100 orders in one day since the violent clash two weeks ago.

“Everybody’s got a different reason,” Kennedy said. “By and large, I think people are afraid they may not be able to get it one day.”

Alabama Flag & Banner employees seven or eight seamstresses, some of whom are Hispanic, making flags — although Kennedy has not had to hire additional workers.

Kennedy’s ancestors fought for the Confederacy and she’s a member of the Daughters of the Confederacy, but she says the flag isn’t a symbol of racist hate.

“When you’ve got people like the Ku Klux Klan and these neo-Nazi groups, the white supremacists, when they hijack the flag, that should be a crime, because that’s not what the flag is about,” Kennedy said. “But that’s what makes people so vehemently, adamantly opposed to the flag.”

Smh...

 

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...-spat-absolutely-not-racist-article-1.3433818

Confederate flag-flying Manhattan man says banner's association with slavery is myth ‘created by MSNBC’

The East Village man who raised the ire of his neighbors by displaying a pair of Confederate battle flags claims his love of the banners has nothing to do with race or the history of the South.

“Absolutely not,” a defiant William Green told the Daily News on Tuesday when asked if he would classify himself as a racist.

The 43-year-old said the association of the rebel flag with secession and slavery is just a tale being told by select media outlets.

“That’s a fad, something that’s being created by MSNBC,” he told The News.

For years, Green kept the Confederate flags across the windows of his East Eighth St. apartment.

The display of banners was backlit by spotlights from inside Green’s apartment at night, incurring the wrath of his neighbors.

Green also has hung a 13-star American flag and four Israeli flags in his windows.

He said he was out-of-town when residents began throwing rocks at his sixth floor windows on Friday night, drawing a large police response.

Shortly before 10 p.m., cops arrested Darren Keen, 35, for climbing Green’s fire escape and punched through one of his windows.

Keen, a DJ from Omaha, Neb., who now lives around the corner on Avenue D, posted several videos of his bleeding hand on Instagram before he was caught.

The flags have not appeared in Green’s windows since Saturday.

“I didn’t take the flags down,” he said. “The landlord took those down. When I got back to my apartment from vacation they were taken down.”

The owner of the building filed papers in Manhattan Supreme Court over weekend arguing that Green had violated the terms of his lease by provoking angry protests that have endangered other residents.

“This is a matter of the clear and present danger to the community and residents of the building,” building owner, Charles Yassky, said in an affidavit.

Yassky withdrew the claim on Monday.

Green attempted on Tuesday to explain his rationale behind hanging the controversial flags.

“I have a firm belief in Scottish enlightenment and the blue and white “X” on the flag is Scottish enlightenment,” he said.

Neighbors said they were tired of the whole ordeal.

“It was a bummer. I saw people gathering here. I saw people throwing rocks,” said Nathan S., 44, an artist who lives in the building. “I don’t know, man. First Amendment. I know the guy, he’s a little mentally disturbed.”

http://www.westfieldrepublican.com/...Confederate-flag-display.html?isap=1&nav=5071

Owner defends his NYC Confederate flag display

A man whose Confederate flag display in his Manhattan apartment windows was met with hurled rocks, a broken window and legal action last week says the reaction reflects a misunderstanding of the flag's meaning.

William Green says in an email Tuesday that, in his words: "The problem here is media and schools abusing their power and leaving the population completely ignorant of what the Dixie flag symbolizes."

He says it represents Confederate fathers who loved their country, and it's about "heritage, not hate."

He's says the flags were there for more than a year. But they attracted new attention after an Aug. 12 white nationalist rally to preserve a Confederate statue in Charlottesville, Virginia, spiraled into violence.

 

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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...ate-Flag-Instagram-Post-Racism-441525123.html

Newburgh Police Condemn Officer's 'Appalling' Confederate Flag Instagram Post

A New York town’s police department and the unions that represent its officers are denouncing a racially charged Instagram post made by one of its members.

The incendiary post was made on the account of the City of Newburgh Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association (PBA), a police union.

According to the Times Herald-Record, the Instagram post shows a Confederate flag with the words, “This does not offend me.” Below the image of the flag is a photo of two men with sagging pants along with the words, “This bulls--- does!”

The post was denounced by the city’s black Council members and by City Manager Michael Ciaravino on Tuesday, the Times Herald-Record reported.

Good cops tho...

 

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http://www.richmond.com/news/virgin...cle_75b3e354-3dc5-5f85-b2bf-04c156047ffb.html

Modern-day Confederate from Tenn. in battle with McAuliffe over Lee monument rally in Richmond

A Tennessee man who said he believes the South seceded because of federal taxation, not slavery, said he’s lobbying the McAuliffe administration to let him hold a pro-Confederate rally at Richmond’s Robert E. Lee monument.

Gov. Terry McAuliffe on Friday signed an executive order temporarily barring demonstrations at the state-owned Lee monument on Monument Avenue following violence at a white supremacist rally Aug. 11 and Aug. 12 in Charlottesville.

But Thomas E. Crompton, commanding general of CSA II: The New Confederate States of America in Dandridge, Tenn., said he and several others requested a permit around Aug. 11 for a rally at the Lee monument to be held Sept. 16. He said a state official recently verbally denied his permit request.

“We’re not with those white supremacists or those radicals who are killing,” Crompton said. “We wanted a peaceful gathering on that date showing our support to protect the monument.”

A city commission created by Mayor Levar Stoney has been studying whether to add context to the monuments. After the Charlottesville violence, Stoney initially maintained that he didn’t want any monuments relocated but later said the commission would expand its scope and study that issue.

The Virginia ACLU has been critical of McAuliffe’s order, worried that it is a prior restraint on free speech in a public space.

Crompton said he hopes McAuliffe “will hear our side of the story” and said he’s examining legal options because he considers the rally a free-speech issue.

“We are planning on having that rally,” he said. “The governor placing that executive order ... is only a temporary setback.”

In an interview, Crompton falsely said the Confederate states seceded because of heavy taxation and “tyranny” by the federal government, not slavery. “They were overtaxing the South and the South got fed up with it,” he said. “Slavery was not a factor.”

Crompton also claimed that Lee despised and disavowed slavery. However, Lee’s acceptance of slavery was comparable to other Southerners and he denounced abolitionists from the North, according to Gary W. Gallagher, the John L. Nau III professor in the History of the American Civil War at the University of Virginia.

Bragdon Bowling, a Confederate heritage activist in Richmond, had asked the state, prior to the Charlottesville violence, for permission to hold a monument preservation rally at Richmond’s Lee monument. But last week he withdrew his request, saying he wanted to preserve Confederate monuments but worried about the potential for violence.