Cop Points Gun At 5 12 Year Old Kids

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Copper;c-9742891 said:
So there is another side?

Lets hear it, Clarence.

Look man, I know ya'll say silly shit like this in an effort to get reactions from other drones. If that makes you happy, do your thang.

But to be clear, I never said there weren't cases where the other side doesn't matter. If a grown man gets caught raping a child, his side doesn't matter. He was wrong and deserves whatever comes his way. But if we're talking about a situation where an asian store owner is forcefully restraining a black woman, it might be worthwhile to know why he was doing that before passing down his sentence. If a white cop shoots a black man, it might be prudent to know at least some of the facts before mounting a protest. That seems like common sense to me, but what do I know.
 
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2017/04/police_release_video_of_five_b.html

GRAND RAPIDS, MI - Video footage released by the Grand Rapids Police Department shows at least eight officers responded to detain five unarmed black youths March 24 after a report of a fight at basketball courts nearby.

The videos show one of the detained youths wailing and crying as he lay on the ground with his hands stretched above his head. Officers drew their weapons on the youths because they had received a report that one of them might be armed.

"Can you please put the gun down?" one of the boys asked.

Another youth is heard saying, "I do not want to die, bro."

The youths try to tell the officers that they have video on their phones of what happened, as one of the boys continues to cry, "Don't shoot me."

"We are not about to die we didn't do nothing," another of the boys says to try and comfort him.

Officers attempted to comfort the youths as well, though they had their guns drawn.

"Calm down, calm down, it'll be alright," Officer Caleb Johnson said. "They'll give you directions, OK?"

Johnson was the officer who found the group of five friends walking down Francis Avenue near Melville Street.

Johnson was looking for a group of teens that included a male wearing all black with a black backpack, and another male wearing a red top and a black and red Adidas zip-up jacket - descriptions given by a witness to another officer near the Kroc Center minutes after police responded to a report of a fight about 7:15 p.m. on the basketball courts.

The witness said he saw the male drop a revolver.

Ten minutes later when Johnson found the group of five youths on Francis Street, Johnson got out of the car with his weapon drawn.

Standing behind the door of his vehicle, Johnson said to the group, "Guys, get on the ground."

Confused, some of the youths did not immediately get on the ground - and so Johnson repeated the order.

"Hey, get over here," Johnson said, motioning with his arm. "Keep your hands where I can see them and get on the ground."

As other officers arrive on the scene, the youths were directed to stand up one at a time and walk backward toward the police with their hands on their heads. Once they reached the officers, video footage shows the boys kneeling to the ground and then being handcuffed.

Detaining all five youths took about 10 minutes, and officers kept their guns drawn the entire time.

After police determined that the five youths were in the wrong place at the wrong time, the boys waited in the back of police cruisers for their parents to arrive. All parties cooperated - but the parents were upset.

"I'm sorry, I don't mean no disrespect, but you all have to understand that's my baby," said Shawndryka Moore, mother of one of the boys, crying as she stood outside of the police cruiser with her son inside. "We don't deal with police. I don't have charges. We don't do this. All this stuff that goes on in this world - I worry about my kids every day. That's why I don't let them go nowhere."


Johnson and Officer Troy Colegrove spoke with another set of parents, Jacquetta and Bomesa Sims, after they arrived on Francis Street.

"We hate that it had to get to that point," Colegrove said. "We're just doing our job, because a lot of people out here have guns. We're not saying that your kids have guns - we're just doing our job."

The incident was recorded in eight in-car videos and 18 videos recorded by body-worn cameras. Footage from two of the officers involved obtained by The Grand Rapids Press through a Freedom of Information Act request included 12 of the body-worn camera videos.

Police Chief David Rahinsky has said he believes the body-worn camera footage would help the community understand why the department is standing behind the officers involved in the incident.

"The officers didn't do anything wrong. They acted on articulate facts from a witness moments earlier who said he saw them hand a gun to each other," Rahinsky said previously to The Press. "I think when the community sees what we've seen -- with the body worn camera footage; I think they'll have a different opinion. I respect their emotion. I think what we're hearing is a lot of grief and frustration to systemic issues."

The incident -- brought to light after the mothers presented the five youths at a city commission meeting March 28 to share their story -- has generated a call to action by community groups who feel the boys were unfairly targeted because of their race.

Police officials have stood by the officers involved, stating they were following policies. The police unions issued an "unprecedented" response calling for an end to protests of the incident, but community organizations still feel the GRPD needs to change how it operates.


Attention to racial equity is at a high point in Grand Rapids this spring, as it was on the top of Mayor Rosalynn Bliss' state of the city speech this year.

This week the city announced results of a racial profiling traffic stop study showing bias in the police department. Black drivers are twice as likely to be stopped by police in Grand Rapids than non-black drivers, according to a study done of 2013-2015 data.
 
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2017/04/police_respond_to_protests_aft.html

Police respond to protests after stopping 5 black youth at gunpoint: 'Enough'

GRAND RAPIDS, MI - Police unions defended the actions of officers who came under fire for stopping five unarmed black pre-teens and teens at gunpoint.

In what they called an "unprecedented action," the presidents of the Grand Rapids Police Officers Association and the Grand Rapids Police Command Officers Association on Wednesday, April 12, issued a statement defending police officers and rejecting calls from some for a "new policy" on police operations.

"We would be remiss in our obligations and responsibilities if we didn't take this opportunity to make our case before the public," Andy Bingel, president of the police officers association, and Mike Maycroft, president of the command officers association, said in a statement.

They said that police nationwide have come under "intense scrutiny after very unfortunate encounters between police and people of color in other parts of the country ... ."

In some cases, videos, which only show a few moments of an encounter, "have been used to create a cop hating segment of the public. The result has been a constant barrage of complaints and demonstrations that question the professionalism, intent and integrity of our police command staff and our line officers.

"We say enough."


They also provided details of what happened March 24 at the Kroc Center, where the five kids, ages 12 to 14, had been playing basketball.

Police responded to a report of over 50 people fighting at the center, knowing they would likely be far outnumbered.

Once police arrived, the fight had broken up and groups were leaving in different directions. Police were checking the area when someone approached and reported that someone dropped a revolver, stopped to pick it up, and put it into a backpack.

The person provided a detailed description of the group and its direction. Police found a group wearing clothing that fit the description provided by the witness.

"Officers complied with policy and procedure and detained the group, so they could safely investigate the claims of a teen carrying a concealed firearm as described by the citizen," the police officers association said.

It said the officers were calm and provided "very clear direction and attempted to keep the individuals as calm as possible ... ."

The officers provided an explanation and followed up with their parents. The union said the officers "showed restraint, their actions were reasonable" and they complied with department policy.

The mothers of the boys protested their treatment before the Grand Rapids City Commission on Tuesday, April 11.

Over 300 residents packed commission chambers, many wearing stickers that said "#wouldyoupullagunonme," that community groups provided.

"We can't stop thinking of the fact that - what if one of our babies had made the wrong move?" said Shawndryka Moore of Grand Rapids, whose son is 14 and was involved in the incident.

Black and Hispanic residents said they suffered discrimination and demanded training, testing for officer bias and increased accountability to address race relations.

Bomesa Sims, father of two boys involved, ages 12 and 14, said: "I've lived this for 38 years. I'm angry - and I know a lot of people are angry. And we're not going to take too much more of this - and I'm saying this to the police. Like, something has to change before you have a situation on your hands that you can't handle."

Police Chief David Rahinsky met with the boys and their parents and apologized on behalf of the department, but refusing a request that the officers involved apologize directly to the boys.

He said after the meeting that the officers acted courteously and according to protocol.

"The officers didn't do anything wrong. They acted on articulate facts from a witness moments earlier who said he saw them hand a gun to each other," Rahinsky told MLive and The Grand Rapids Press.


The police union presidents said the chief and staff have accepted the request for further racial sensitivity and awareness training. All want strong, positive community relations, they said.

The training has opened eyes and helped officers.

"We are in the unenviable position of having to encounter people in the worst of situations, which gets attention from the public on various levels. In our daily work as patrol officers, neighborhood officers, detectives and command officers we see it all.

"We see the horrible effects of poverty and despair. We see the results of families breaking down and children being removed from homes to keep them safe. We are the ones who knock on doors at all hours of the day to tell a loved one their child, spouse or relative has been killed in an auto accident or violent confrontation on the streets."

The union presidents defended the officers' response to stopping the five who were leaving the Kroc Center.

"... (W)hen we get a 911 call that says there is a group of people acting suspiciously and that there may be weapons involved we respond immediately, prepared to keep innocent citizens from being harmed. Our training kicks in and we follow the law and our experience to face down any possible situation.

"Sometimes that includes the take down of people, and tragically, it may include drawing and discharging our weapons. That is what police do, at our own risk, so that we can all live in a place that is relatively safe and secure."
 
Mister B.;c-9742451 said:
R0mp;c-9742048 said:
Once again, shitheads cops making it more difficult for the cops who are actually good at their job.

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The only good cop is a dead cop.
 
http://www.freep.com/story/news/loc.../grand-rapids-police-black-drivers/100674808/

Study: Grand Rapids police most likely to stop black drivers

GRAND RAPIDS — A newly released study shows that black drivers are twice as likely to be stopped by police than non-black drivers in Grand Rapids.

The 100-page Traffic Stop Data Analysis was released Tuesday at a town hall meeting, where over 100 community members gathered.

Lamberth Consulting surveyors observed different locations in the city and recorded drivers' demographics in those areas at random. Data was then compared to traffic stops made in those areas between 2013 and 2015.

Out of the 20 locations analyzed, 16 showed problematic disparities for black drivers and five showed disparities for Hispanic drivers.

The study is part of City Manager Greg Sundstrom's 12-point plan to increase transparency in the Grand Rapids Police Department.

"Since the (2013-2015) data proves it, what will Grand Rapids tell the people who have been saying this for 40-50 years?" Kent County commissioner Robert Womack said at the meeting.

Sundstrom said city staff is disappointed in the study's results and that it's dedicated to stopping racial bias in Grand Rapids.

"Why we didn't wake up and listen to you, I don't know," he said. "But this is the highest priority at city hall and we'll keep doing studies and training until we fix this."

Police Chief David Rahinsky said the department has gone through implicit bias training as recommended by Sundstrom.

When asked if the officers racially profiling drivers could be reprimanded, Lamberth Vice President for Training Jerry Clayton said processes like this happen in stages.

"The last thing we want to do is jump to conclusions," he said. "We recommended the organization review data to drill down the officers and take corrective action."

Rahinsky said racism itself is not unique to policing and that it's prevalent in the private sector, schools, prisons and housing across the nation. He said he hopes that other cities will eventually "look to Grand Rapids to determine how to fix their issues."

Apparently the Grand Rapids police likes to racial profile black drivers also for no damn reason…
 
Its a pity some of my people dont know this isnt how kids or even adults should be treated

Posted this somewhere and this cat was like : whats the issue?

I'm like nothing at all yo, dont worry about it
 

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