White NFL Player Chris Long Donating 2017 Salary To Fight Education Inequality

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5 Grand;c-10049860 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-10049510 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Youre clearly white bro

The Lonious Monk;c-10049577 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Dog, I literally think this is the first Wack reaction I've ever given on here. That shit you just said is crazy.

So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

shut up nigga.
 
5 Grand;c-10049860 said:
CashmoneyDux;c-10049510 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Youre clearly white bro

The Lonious Monk;c-10049577 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Dog, I literally think this is the first Wack reaction I've ever given on here. That shit you just said is crazy.

So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

Having drop out parents isn't exactly an indicator that your children will be dropouts. Dropouts don't just drop out because, they aren't intelligent or incapable of doing the work. Some have to seek work early because, of dire financial issues. Some take on parenting early. It's not just as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. There are plenty of Black folks from our generation that have parents and grand parents who didn't finish school but were intelligent enough to instill a work ethic within their progeny that enabled them to do better for themselves.

As far as Taxes that's sketchy topic. Right now we have a situation in Atl. where accusations of taxes being paid by lower income neighborhoods are being appropriated to upper income areas to strengthen their educational institutions. js

 
atribecalledgabi;c-10049902 said:
Schools shouldn't be tied to property taxes...that's been an ongoing fight for decades.

Exactly, but they had to and continue to find ways to keep shit fucked up and the game rigged in their favor.
 
D. Morgan;c-10049928 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10049902 said:
Schools shouldn't be tied to property taxes...that's been an ongoing fight for decades.

Exactly, but they had to and continue to find ways to keep shit fucked up and the game rigged in their favor.

Unfortunately a lot of ppl don't realize that through access to decent early education, there probly wouldn't be a need for affirmative action in college admissions. If you can read and write at grade level and maintain a C avg you'll get into college.

But hey pick yourself up by your bootstraps and shit...
 
5 Grand;c-10049860 said:
So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

And your point is kinda moot anyway, because the amount of money directed to schools aren't just tied to how much money is given in taxes. In a lot of cases, you'll see that schools in poor white areas still get more money than schools in poor black areas because more of the money earmarked for assisting public schools gets funneled to the white area. There was a bit of a scandal in PA uncovered not long ago. Basically, the PA state government set aside some money for poor schools. The white schools in rural PA were getting a much large chunk of it than the black schools in urban areas in PA even though those black schools were serving far more students. In both cases, the people being served were low to low-middle class and weren't paying around the same in property taxes.
 
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

What part of Trenton you from?
 
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$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

Damn son there's hope for Trenton
 
Kwan Dai;c-10049882 said:
Having drop out parents isn't exactly an indicator that your children will be dropouts. Dropouts don't just drop out because, they aren't intelligent or incapable of doing the work. Some have to seek work early because, of dire financial issues. Some take on parenting early. It's not just as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. There are plenty of Black folks from our generation that have parents and grand parents who didn't finish school but were intelligent enough to instill a work ethic within their progeny that enabled them to do better for themselves.

As far as Taxes that's sketchy topic. Right now we have a situation in Atl. where accusations of taxes being paid by lower income neighborhoods are being appropriated to upper income areas to strengthen their educational institutions. js

I understand that it's more complicated, but to simplify the discussion, people in wealthier neighborhoods pay more in Ad Valorem taxes than people who live in poorer neighborhoods. In fact, people who live in the projects/section 8 housing don't pay anything in Ad Valorem taxes because they don't own their home.

As a result, the wealthier neighborhoods have more resources than poorer neighborhoods.

The solution isn't to increase funding for poorer neighborhoods, the solution is to get out of the ghetto and move to a better neighborhood so your children get a better education.

I'm from a suburb of Massachusetts. We had a bussing program that bussed in children from the inner city. That helped to even the odds.

But ultimately, the solution is to get out of the ghetto. Thats indisputable.
 
5 Grand;c-10050165 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049882 said:
Having drop out parents isn't exactly an indicator that your children will be dropouts. Dropouts don't just drop out because, they aren't intelligent or incapable of doing the work. Some have to seek work early because, of dire financial issues. Some take on parenting early. It's not just as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. There are plenty of Black folks from our generation that have parents and grand parents who didn't finish school but were intelligent enough to instill a work ethic within their progeny that enabled them to do better for themselves.

As far as Taxes that's sketchy topic. Right now we have a situation in Atl. where accusations of taxes being paid by lower income neighborhoods are being appropriated to upper income areas to strengthen their educational institutions. js

I understand that it's more complicated, but to simplify the discussion, people in wealthier neighborhoods pay more in Ad Valorem taxes than people who live in poorer neighborhoods. In fact, people who live in the projects/section 8 housing don't pay anything in Ad Valorem taxes because they don't own their home.

As a result, the wealthier neighborhoods have more resources than poorer neighborhoods.

The solution isn't to increase funding for poorer neighborhoods, the solution is to get out of the ghetto and move to a better neighborhood so your children get a better education.

I'm from a suburb of Massachusetts. We had a bussing program that bussed in children from the inner city. That helped to even the odds.

But ultimately, the solution is to get out of the ghetto. Thats indisputable.

How bout you just don't punish kids of color for where they didn't choose to live
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-10049949 said:
5 Grand;c-10049860 said:
So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

And your point is kinda moot anyway, because the amount of money directed to schools aren't just tied to how much money is given in taxes. In a lot of cases, you'll see that schools in poor white areas still get more money than schools in poor black areas because more of the money earmarked for assisting public schools gets funneled to the white area. There was a bit of a scandal in PA uncovered not long ago. Basically, the PA state government set aside some money for poor schools. The white schools in rural PA were getting a much large chunk of it than the black schools in urban areas in PA even though those black schools were serving far more students. In both cases, the people being served were low to low-middle class and weren't paying around the same in property taxes.

i see ur still posting in this muthafucka @5grand

so u jus go disregard this post..

SPECIFICALLY the bolded!?

if so fuck outta here nigga wit that bullshit u kickin.
 
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too
 
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$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050271 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too

I'm not going to argue with your truth. Just concede that it's yours and don't project.

 
CapitalB;c-10050218 said:
i see ur still posting in this muthafucka @5grand

so u jus go disregard this post..

SPECIFICALLY the bolded!?

if so fuck outta here nigga wit that bullshit u kickin.

I didn't see the post but ok, I'll address it;

The Lonious Monk;c-10049949 said:
5 Grand;c-10049860 said:
So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

And your point is kinda moot anyway, because the amount of money directed to schools aren't just tied to how much money is given in taxes. In a lot of cases, you'll see that schools in poor white areas still get more money than schools in poor black areas because more of the money earmarked for assisting public schools gets funneled to the white area. There was a bit of a scandal in PA uncovered not long ago. Basically, the PA state government set aside some money for poor schools. The white schools in rural PA were getting a much large chunk of it than the black schools in urban areas in PA even though those black schools were serving far more students. In both cases, the people being served were low to low-middle class and weren't paying around the same in property taxes.

@ the bolded. What you have posted is categorically false. You clearly have no idea how taxes work. But I'll explain it to you;

There are different kind of taxes; Federal tax, state taxes, local/municipal taxes, progressive taxes and regressive taxes. Ad Valorem taxes fall into the category of progressive taxes.

Lets start with Federal taxes. They take federal taxes out of your paycheck before you get it. Federal taxes basically go to the congress/senate/executive offices in Washington DC. Those taxes are used to pay our congressmen and senators, military spending and infrastructure. The congress and senate decide what to do with the money. In some cases they just pocket the money by giving themselves raises or spending it on fancy dinners.

State taxes are similar to Federal taxes, they take it out of your paycheck before you get it, but the money is spent within the state. Regressive taxes fall into this category. For example in New Jersey where I live there's a 6% sales tax. So if you buy something in a store, they add 6% to the price. Something that cost $10 will cost $10.60 after taxes. Everybody pays the same regressive tax, poor and rich people both pay 6% sales tax. Anybody that goes to the store and buys a magazine or a pack of batteries pays a 6% sales tax. In New York City the sales tax is 8.25%. In Massachusetts the sales tax is 5%. In Delaware there is no sales tax so something that cost $10 costs $10 because there's no tax.

Local/municipal taxes are progressive taxes. Basically if you own a house you have to pay taxes every quarter because its an asset. But if you're still paying a mortgage you can deduct your mortgage payments to offset what you owe in taxes. Poor people who do not own property don't pay progressive tax.

There's also capital gains tax. If you invest in the stock market and buy 10,000 shares of a tech company for $10 per share you've spent $100,000. If the stock goes up to $15 per share and you sell it you've made $50,000 in profit. The government taxes that $50,000. However there's ways around paying capital gains tax, for example you could invest in a oil and gas exploratory partnership that loses money. The capital losses offset the capital gains. It seems counterintuitive but sometimes it takes 3-5 years for a oil and gas partnership to make a profit, so you can use the capital losses in the oil and gas partnership to offset the $50,000 gain you made on the tech stock.

Anyway, you said;

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

@ the part I underlined. You made that up. Public schools are not, "there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing". Thats a crock of shit.

People who get up and go to work every day and pay more in taxes deserve to put their kids in a better school system than people who don't work and don't pay taxes. You might say 'it's unfair' but everything is fair. People who work and pay taxes think its 'not fair' that they have to work while there are people sitting home collecting welfare and food stamps. The money that goes into the welfare and food stamp program comes from the taxes of people who work. How is that fair? Everything is fair.

Anyway the Supreme Court ruled on what you and I are discussing. They ruled that poorer neighborhoods don't have the inherent right to the same education as schools in wealthier neighborhoods.

5. San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Seriously, if two people grow up in the same neighborhood and one of them joins a union after high school and works 40 hours a week every week until he's 62 and retires while the other one doesn't work or go to school and goes in and out of prison don't deserve the same amenities.
 
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Kwan Dai;c-10050273 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050271 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too

I'm not going to argue with your truth. Just concede that it's yours and don't project.

Man fuck Trenton and fuck you too. You bustas get so mad about y'all little goofy ass cities. We don't own none of this shit other then property. So concede your ass from mentioning me
 
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050280 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10050273 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050271 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too

I'm not going to argue with your truth. Just concede that it's yours and don't project.

Man fuck Trenton and fuck you too. You bustas get so mad about y'all little goofy ass cities. We don't own none of this shit other then property. So concede your ass from mentioning me

Where you from?
 
Focal Point;c-10049996 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

What part of Trenton you from?

I'm actually from Massachusetts but I've been in Trenton for about 4 years. I live in Whitehorse Gardens which is on the Hamilton/Trenton border.

@$tayRichRollin is right. Trenton is a gloomy place to live. I'll be glad when I move out of here.
 
Focal Point;c-10050283 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050280 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10050273 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050271 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too

I'm not going to argue with your truth. Just concede that it's yours and don't project.

Man fuck Trenton and fuck you too. You bustas get so mad about y'all little goofy ass cities. We don't own none of this shit other then property. So concede your ass from mentioning me

Where you from?

Focal Point;c-10050283 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050280 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10050273 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10050271 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10049858 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

You violating family. I know plenty of thorough brothers and sisters from Trenton. Trenton is all the way official.

It still doesn't take away from it being such a gloomy shit hole. Don't be defensive cause I'm telling the truth. I always say the same shit about where I'm from too

I'm not going to argue with your truth. Just concede that it's yours and don't project.

Man fuck Trenton and fuck you too. You bustas get so mad about y'all little goofy ass cities. We don't own none of this shit other then property. So concede your ass from mentioning me

Where you from?

South central LA! ive told my story on here multiple times. I was in ny and jersey for 15 months. There's a dude on here that I was calling out names of homies I mess wit and he confirmed
 
Focal Point;c-10050086 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10049829 said:
Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

Damn son there's hope for Trenton

5 Grand;c-10050286 said:
Focal Point;c-10049996 said:
5 Grand;c-10049212 said:
Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

What part of Trenton you from?

I'm actually from Massachusetts but I've been in Trenton for about 4 years. I live in Whitehorse Gardens which is on the Hamilton/Trenton border.

@$tayRichRollin is right. Trenton is a gloomy place to live. I'll be glad when I move out of here.

Bro when I was in jersey it was rt 1 or something like that . Perry st, walnut and a few others and that shit look gloomy as fuck . Also I still have a few homies in Trenton and Ewing!
 
5 Grand;c-10050279 said:
@ the bolded. What you have posted is categorically false. You clearly have no idea how taxes work. But I'll explain it to you;

There are different kind of taxes; Federal tax, state taxes, local/municipal taxes, progressive taxes and regressive taxes. Ad Valorem taxes fall into the category of progressive taxes.

Lets start with Federal taxes. They take federal taxes out of your paycheck before you get it. Federal taxes basically go to the congress/senate/executive offices in Washington DC. Those taxes are used to pay our congressmen and senators, military spending and infrastructure. The congress and senate decide what to do with the money. In some cases they just pocket the money by giving themselves raises or spending it on fancy dinners.

State taxes are similar to Federal taxes, they take it out of your paycheck before you get it, but the money is spent within the state. Regressive taxes fall into this category. For example in New Jersey where I live there's a 6% sales tax. So if you buy something in a store, they add 6% to the price. Something that cost $10 will cost $10.60 after taxes. Everybody pays the same regressive tax, poor and rich people both pay 6% sales tax. Anybody that goes to the store and buys a magazine or a pack of batteries pays a 6% sales tax. In New York City the sales tax is 8.25%. In Massachusetts the sales tax is 5%. In Delaware there is no sales tax so something that cost $10 costs $10 because there's no tax.

Local/municipal taxes are progressive taxes. Basically if you own a house you have to pay taxes every quarter because its an asset. But if you're still paying a mortgage you can deduct your mortgage payments to offset what you owe in taxes. Poor people who do not own property don't pay progressive tax.

There's also capital gains tax. If you invest in the stock market and buy 10,000 shares of a tech company for $10 per share you've spent $100,000. If the stock goes up to $15 per share and you sell it you've made $50,000 in profit. The government taxes that $50,000. However there's ways around paying capital gains tax, for example you could invest in a oil and gas exploratory partnership that loses money. The capital losses offset the capital gains. It seems counterintuitive but sometimes it takes 3-5 years for a oil and gas partnership to make a profit, so you can use the capital losses in the oil and gas partnership to offset the $50,000 gain you made on the tech stock.

Anyway, you said;

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

@ the part I underlined. You made that up. Public schools are not, "there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing". Thats a crock of shit.

People who get up and go to work every day and pay more in taxes deserve to put their kids in a better school system than people who don't work and don't pay taxes. You might say 'it's unfair' but everything is fair. People who work and pay taxes think its 'not fair' that they have to work while there are people sitting home collecting welfare and food stamps. The money that goes into the welfare and food stamp program comes from the taxes of people who work. How is that fair? Everything is fair.

Anyway the Supreme Court ruled on what you and I are discussing. They ruled that poorer neighborhoods don't have the inherent right to the same education as schools in wealthier neighborhoods.

5. San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Seriously, if two people grow up in the same neighborhood and one of them joins a union after high school and works 40 hours a week every week until he's 62 and retires while the other one doesn't work or go to school and goes in and out of prison don't deserve the same amenities.

Nigga, half your post doesn't have shit to do with what I said. How the fuck you going to act like you know some shit about taxes that we don't and then post some shit that everyone knows? What the hell does any of that have to do with the points I made, which is that there is nothing in the system that guarantees that if you pay more taxes, you'll benefit more from how tax money is spent. In fact, that's almost absolutely false given that a lot of tax money goes to social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to despite that by raw numbers more tax money comes from weathier people.

And it's hilarious that, you called my claim that public schools are there for people regardless of socio-economic status a "crock of shit" and then support your side by basically posting something that is nothing more than your opinion. Public schools are there to provide the basic education requirements for the general public. That's why they're fucking called public schools and not "Quality According to the Wealth in your Neighborhood" schools. Now granted, that doesn't mean that people in poor areas have the intrinsic right to be just as well educated as people in richer areas. No one claimed such a right existed, so your Supreme Court case is irrelevant.

It's not our stance that there is some Constitutionally based rule that the quality of public schools should be even across the board. It's our stance that it would be better for the country if such a divide in education didn't exist. Lack of education is tied to crime and poverty and host of other blights on society, so it stands to reason that if you increased education, you'd reduce those blights. Anyone who cares about the country should want that. And even if you don't care about the country and only care about you and yours, then you should want it to be that other people are taken care enough so that they don't see taking from you and yours as their best or only option for survival. Once again, if you think your money should guarantee your child a better future, send your child to a private school. That's what they are for.
 
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