White NFL Player Chris Long Donating 2017 Salary To Fight Education Inequality

[5 Grand]

Nigga, half your post doesn't have shit to do with what I said. How the fuck you going to act like you know some shit about taxes that we don't and then post some shit that everyone knows? What the hell does any of that have to do with the points I made, which is that there is nothing in the system that guarantees that if you pay more taxes, you'll benefit more from how tax money is spent. In fact, that's almost absolutely false given that a lot of tax money goes to social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to despite that by raw numbers more tax money comes from weathier people.

And it's hilarious that, you called my claim that public schools are there for people regardless of socio-economic status a "crock of shit" and then support your side by basically posting something that is nothing more than your opinion. Public schools are there to provide the basic education requirements for the general public. That's why they're fucking called public schools and not "Quality According to the Wealth in your Neighborhood" schools. Now granted, that doesn't mean that people in poor areas have the intrinsic right to be just as well educated as people in richer areas. No one claimed such a right existed, so your Supreme Court case is irrelevant.

It's not our stance that there is some Constitutionally based rule that the quality of public schools should be even across the board. It's our stance that it would be better for the country if such a divide in education didn't exist. Lack of education is tied to crime and poverty and host of other blights on society, so it stands to reason that if you increased education, you'd reduce those blights. Anyone who cares about the country should want that. And even if you don't care about the country and only care about you and yours, then you should want it to be that other people are taken care enough so that they don't see taking from you and yours as their best or only option for survival. Once again, if you think your money should guarantee your child a better future, send your child to a private school. That's what they are for.

Lets go back to what you said earlier;

If you want to spend money to give your kids a leg up, that's fine. That's what private schools are for. Public schools are there to serve anyone regardless of socio-economic standing. A child shouldn't automatically be given a leg up just because his/her parents can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood. That's not how taxes work. Taxes are taken and used for the benefit of the country. There is no promise that if you pay more taxes you'll be given an advantage.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, your point is that;

1. If you want your kids to get a better education you can spend money to send them to private school, otherwise all public schools should have the same resources.

2. Schools in wealthier neighborhoods shouldn't have better resources than poorer neighborhoods.

3. Taxes as a whole are used for a single purpose; the benefit of the country.

^^^ Thats all wrong. We live in a capitalist society. Capitalism dictates that people who have more money get amenities that people who have less money don't get. Period. A school in a wealthier neighborhood does and should have more resources than a school in a poorer neighborhood. The solution is to get out of the ghetto. Thats what capitalism means. If you disagree with that you are a communist and should move to China or North Korea. Seriously, if you don't think that people should be able to get ahead whether it be by inheritance or hard work then you are a communist.

The Jim Crow laws notwithstanding, one purpose of hard work is to give your children a better opportunity than you had.

Lets move on to your more recent post

Nigga, half your post doesn't have shit to do with what I said. How the fuck you going to act like you know some shit about taxes that we don't and then post some shit that everyone knows? What the hell does any of that have to do with the points I made, which is that there is nothing in the system that guarantees that if you pay more taxes, you'll benefit more from how tax money is spent. In fact, that's almost absolutely false given that a lot of tax money goes to social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to despite that by raw numbers more tax money comes from weathier people.

Again, what you have posted is false. If you move to a municipality that has a higher budget due to Ad Valorem taxes the public school system is, and should be better.

Furthermore, these, "social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to" don't necessarily come from taxes. They come from not-for-profit organizations that wealthy people set up to avoid paying taxes.

The bottom line is that a wealthy neighborhood has a bigger budget and can afford things that poorer neighborhoods in the ghetto can't afford. The solution is simple; get out of the ghetto and move to a wealthier neighborhood. The easiest way to do that is to graduate from high school and then go to college, join the military or join a union.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Chris Long has always been known as genuinely good person. Need more of those.

 

[Focal Point]

Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

Damn son there's hope for Trenton

Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

What part of Trenton you from?

I'm actually from Massachusetts but I've been in Trenton for about 4 years. I live in Whitehorse Gardens which is on the Hamilton/Trenton border.

@$tayRichRollin is right. Trenton is a gloomy place to live. I'll be glad when I move out of here.

Bro when I was in jersey it was rt 1 or something like that . Perry st, walnut and a few others and that shit look gloomy as fuck . Also I still have a few homies in Trenton and Ewing!

Yeah you were right in the thick of shit

 

[5 Grand]

Really good up.... all of his charities are are dealing with equality and the under privileged. And his foundation is doing work in Africa. @5grand Trenton is a dump there's no saving it. I knew a chic from there she was a dump too. Move bro

Damn son there's hope for Trenton

Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

What part of Trenton you from?

I'm actually from Massachusetts but I've been in Trenton for about 4 years. I live in Whitehorse Gardens which is on the Hamilton/Trenton border.

@$tayRichRollin is right. Trenton is a gloomy place to live. I'll be glad when I move out of here.

Bro when I was in jersey it was rt 1 or something like that . Perry st, walnut and a few others and that shit look gloomy as fuck . Also I still have a few homies in Trenton and Ewing!

Yeah I know about Perry St

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Youre clearly white bro

Actually, The Supreme Court ruled that students in poorer districts don't have the fundamental right to the same education that students in wealthier districts have.

I actually agree with The Supreme Court's decision. If you have a project building that houses 100 children that all go to the same school, some of those students will drop out and do nothing with their lives while others will go on to college and make something of themselves.

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood and manage to go to college and make it out of the ghetto I feel like you should be able to move to a wealthier district so your children can get a better education.

Likewise, if you drop out of high school and have three children by the time you turn 18, I don't think your children should have the fundamental "right" to the same education as somebody that goes to college, gets a good paying job and moves to the suburbs where the schools get more funding due to the fact that the property taxes are higher.

Everybody was told the same thing in kindergarten; If you get good grades you can go to college and get a better paying job. They told that to everybody.

Anyway, here's the Supreme Court decision that I'm referring to:

San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez (1972)

Like most U.S. public schools, the San Antonio Independent School District in Texas was funded in part by local property taxes. The District sued the state on behalf of the students in its district, arguing that since property taxes were relatively low in the area, students at the public schools were being underserved due to the lack of funding compared to wealthier districts. They argued that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment mandates equal funding among school districts, but the Court ultimately rejected their claim. It held that there is no fundamental right to education guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the Equal Protection Clause doesn’t require exact “equality or precisely equal advantages” among school districts.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-important-supreme-court-cases-about-education

Its great that Chris Long is donating his check to scholarships for students in the hood. Its a noble thing that he's doing. But in Trenton where I live there's a 50% drop out rate. When those students drop out and produce children its a vicious cycle. You can't blame the Whiteman or the government or "the system" for inferior schools in the ghetto. Plain and simply the wealthier neighborhoods have more funding because the inhabitants pay more in taxes. If you want to make a change the solution is to graduate high school, go to college and make something of yourself. You can't be a dropout and blame "the man" for the poor education in the hood.

I'm ready for flags, nosigns and wacks but thats how I see it.

Dog, I literally think this is the first Wack reaction I've ever given on here. That shit you just said is crazy.

So you guys think that somebody that busts their ass to get out of the hood shouldn't be able to send their kids to better schools than somebody that drops out and does nothing with their life?

I believe in capitalism. I also know and understand that racism exists. But I understood racism existed when I was 10 years old, maybe younger. I also understood that going to college gives you an edge over people that don't go to college.

There's no logical explanation why schools in neighborhoods that pay less in Ad Valorem taxes should have the same resources as schools in neighborhoods that pay more in Ad Valorem taxes.

If you can explain that I'd love to hear it.

Lmao if you don't know why you sound dumb as shit you already lost

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, your point is that;

1. If you want your kids to get a better education you can spend money to send them to private school, otherwise all public schools should have the same resources.

2. Schools in wealthier neighborhoods shouldn't have better resources than poorer neighborhoods.

3. Taxes as a whole are used for a single purpose; the benefit of the country.

I'm not suggesting there is some kind of inherent right to all schools having the same resources. I'm saying that if you look at why the country has many of the problems it does, funneling money away from education in poor areas is part of the root cause. If you want the country to improve for everyone, you probably want to change that.

^^^ Thats all wrong. We live in a capitalist society. Capitalism dictates that people who have more money get amenities that people who have less money don't get. Period. A school in a wealthier neighborhood does and should have more resources than a school in a poorer neighborhood. The solution is to get out of the ghetto. Thats what capitalism means. If you disagree with that you are a communist and should move to China or North Korea. Seriously, if you don't think that people should be able to get ahead whether it be by inheritance or hard work then you are a communist.

Dude, real talk, you have no idea what you're talking about. Capitalism describes our economic system. Taxes and how those taxes are distributed have nothing to do with economic practices. They are a function of our government system, a democracy or democratic republic or however you want to describe it. So you trying to refute arguments about how tax money should be used by saying "We live in a capitalist society" is like a nigga trying to spell words using numbers. That shit doesn't add up.

The Jim Crow laws notwithstanding, one purpose of hard work is to give your children a better opportunity than you had.

Lets move on to your more recent post

This shit is retarded. You sound like racist CaCs. You think everyone in the hood or every child born in the hood gets stuck because they are lazy or don't work hard? That's ridiculous. There are plenty of people in the hood or other impoverished areas working their lives away and still can't get ahead or get their children ahead. That's precisely why competitive educational opportunities are necessary.

Again, what you have posted is false. If you move to a municipality that has a higher budget due to Ad Valorem taxes the public school system is, and should be better.

Nigga, learn what the word false mean. Again, you're just posting your opinion not an actual fact. There is no hard and fast law or rule that says what you just said must be true. If that's what you believe, fine, say that, but quit acting like your belief is gospel.

Furthermore, these, "social programs and other avenues that's that wealthier people have no access to" don't necessarily come from taxes. They come from not-for-profit organizations that wealthy people set up to avoid paying taxes.

Fuck are you talking about nigga? Social programs like welfare, medicaid, HUD, and headstart are largely funded by federal tax dollars not organizations set up by wealthy people. For someone that likes saying other people are wrong, you sure are pulling a lot of shit out of your ass.

The bottom line is that a wealthy neighborhood has a bigger budget and can afford things that poorer neighborhoods in the ghetto can't afford. The solution is simple; get out of the ghetto and move to a wealthier neighborhood. The easiest way to do that is to graduate from high school and then go to college, join the military or join a union.

Again, you sound stupid. If getting out of the ghetto or any impoverished area was such a simple thing that anyone could do it, most everyone would do it. You're basically saying that poor people are poor because they want to be.

 

[5 Grand]

@The Lonious Monk

I'm not going to go point for point with you but I'll try to explain a few things so you can learn better.

The Government National Mortgage Association (GNMA and/or Ginnie Mae) is a government owned corporation that supports the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Ginnie Maes are the only agency backed by the full faith and credit of the government.

(There's also Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, etc. They're basically government issued securities)

So anyway, Ginnie Mae is basically a security thats as safe as a Treasury bond or a T-Note. @Sion will back me up on this. The purpose of Ginnie Mae is to build projects in the ghetto. Rich people invest in Ginnie Mae's (and Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, etc.) because its one of the safest investments you can make, and the return is slightly higher than a Treasury bond, T-Note or T-Bill. So the purpose and function of a Ginnie Mae is to build section 8 housing for poor people. They ( the tenants) pay 1/3 of their income which is how the investor gets his money back. If they don't pay their rent they get evicted and a new tenant moves in. Thats why its such a good investment. (likewise, Sallie Mae is an equally good investment because student loans never go away).

My point is that projects and section 8 housing aren't built with tax money. They're built from the investments that rich people make. Rich people buy Ginnie Maes because its a good investment. It can't fail. Its as safe as a government bond.

Just to reiterate to make my point clear, you said;

Fuck are you talking about nigga? Social programs like welfare, medicaid, HUD, and headstart are largely funded by federal tax dollars not organizations set up by wealthy people. For someone that likes saying other people are wrong, you sure are pulling a lot of shit out of your ass.

@ the bolded. You are wrong! HUD is emphatically not paid for with tax dollars. They are paid for by wealthy people who invest in section 8 housing because its a safe investment.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/ginniemae.asp

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

@The Lonious Monk

I'm not going to go point for point with you but I'll try to explain a few things so you can learn better.

The Government National Mortgage Association (GNMA and/or Ginnie Mae) is a government owned corporation that supports the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Ginnie Maes are the only agency backed by the full faith and credit of the government.

(There's also Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, etc. They're basically government issued securities)

So anyway, Ginnie Mae is basically a security thats as safe as a Treasury bond or a T-Note. @Sion will back me up on this. The purpose of Ginnie Mae is to build projects in the ghetto. Rich people invest in Ginnie Mae's (and Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, etc.) because its one of the safest investments you can make, and the return is slightly higher than a Treasury bond, T-Note or T-Bill. So the purpose and function of a Ginnie Mae is to build section 8 housing for poor people. They ( the tenants) pay 1/3 of their income which is how the investor gets his money back. If they don't pay their rent they get evicted and a new tenant moves in. Thats why its such a good investment. (likewise, Sallie Mae is an equally good investment because student loans never go away).

My point is that projects and section 8 housing aren't built with tax money. They're built from the investments that rich people make. Rich people buy Ginnie Maes because its a good investment. It can't fail. Its as safe as a government bond.

Just to reiterate to make my point clear, you said;

Fuck are you talking about nigga? Social programs like welfare, medicaid, HUD, and headstart are largely funded by federal tax dollars not organizations set up by wealthy people. For someone that likes saying other people are wrong, you sure are pulling a lot of shit out of your ass.

@ the bolded. You are wrong! HUD is emphatically not paid for with tax dollars. They are paid for by wealthy people who invest in section 8 housing because its a safe investment.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/ginniemae.asp

You don't know what you are talking about.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/hpd/downloads/pdf/LIHTC/HOME-LowIncomeHousing-Tax-CreditGuidebook.pdf

The HOME Program was created in 1990 by the Cranston-Gonzalez National Affordable

Housing Act. Each year, Congress allocates approximately $2 billion by formula among the

states and hundreds of localities nationwide. HOME is the largest Federal block grant designed

exclusively to create affordable housing for low-income households in the nation. Among other

things, HOME funds may be used by PJs to provide incentives to develop rental housing through

acquisition, new construction, reconstruction, or rehabilitation of non-luxury housing.

Nigga be quiet. The government earmarks money, and gives it back to developers in the form of tax credits specifically for investment into poor communities. Yes, the developers put some of their own money into it too, but 2 billion is a lot of federal money being given. You're misrepresenting shit like a mutha fucka. These developers ain't just making affordable housing out of the kindness of their hearts. They're being incentivized by Federal and State governments to do so.

 

[5 Grand]

Alright. I'm not sure what your point is and I'm not going to keep this up, so let me get to the bottom line

1. Wealthier neighborhoods have better school systems than poor neighborhoods because the inhabitants pay more money in ad valorem taxes.

2. I agree with that paradigm. It's probably the most basic example of how capitalism works.

3. There's no logical explanation why a poor neighborhood should have the same resources as a wealthy neighborhood. In fact, thats the whole incentive of working hard and trying to get ahead, so you can have nice things, live in a nice neighborhood and not worry about getting mugged or having your house burglarized.

4. There are many not-for-profit programs that appear to be, on the surface, genuine altruism. But as you dig deeper many of these programs are just a tax write off. The people pulling the strings behind these programs are getting deductions from their taxes and/or dividend and interest payments for their investment. Its not altruism.

5. You say that the government spent $2 Billion in poor communities. What I'm telling you, which you refuse to accept, is that money doesn't come from taxes. It comes from people who invest in government programs. Its not just Americans. Somewhere in Australia, Russia, China, Brazil and Saudi Arabia there's billionaires who are diversifying their portfolios. They're investing in Ginnie Maes, Sallie Maes, Freddie Macs and Fannie Maes. The reason international investors invest in these programs is because the US is a stable country and we don't default. But thats another discussion.

6. Furthermore, the government had a $3.8 trillion budget in 2016. That money didn't come from taxes. That money comes from international investors. People who don't give a rat's ass about poor people in Watts, The South Side of Chicago or Harlem.
https://www.fool.com/investing/gene...ederal-budget-where-the-money-really-goe.aspx

7. Lastly, remember that hurricane that hit Puerto Rico two weeks ago? There are underwriters/stockbrokers that issued municipal bonds to fix the infrastructure. That's why Trump was dragging his feet. The government doesn't help people in need simply because they need help. They only help people in need if they can make a profit. You can probably invest in municipal bonds to rebuild the infrastructure in Puerto Rico. And the good thing is that the interest payments are tax free on the federal, state and local level due to Puerto Rico not being a state. I doubt one dime in tax money went to help Puerto Rico. Thats how it works.