Which NFL coach should be on the BIGGEST Hot Seat this upcoming year??

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matt-;3110552 said:
Nah whisenhunt won't go. He's too good of a coach and i doubt his boss makes a rash, emotional decision halfway through a season or even at the end of the season.

I could see Kubiak gettin fired halfway through the year if they don't start out well though.
 
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No telling in the NFL these days. If John Fox could get another job right after getting fired and Jimmy Johnson could get fired after winning back to back 'ships -- Anything is possible.

But I'm pretty sure Norv Turner will be somebody's offensive coordinator next year, and Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith will get blamed for their team's failures even though both teams were hiding during the free agent rush with millions in cap room.

Kubiak *should* be gone unless the Texans win double digit games AND make the playoffs. He shold've been gone last year so anything less should be unacceptable.

Don't be surprised to see a certain Walrus-looking, high-profile coach with a "dream team" get fired or quit if they fall short of the Super Bowl...
 
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greenwood1921;3110726 said:
No telling in the NFL these days. If John Fox could get another job right after getting fired and Jimmy Johnson could get fired after winning back to back 'ships -- Anything is possible.

But I'm pretty sure Norv Turner will be somebody's offensive coordinator next year, and Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith will get blamed for their team's failures even though both teams were hiding during the free agent rush with millions in cap room.

Kubiak *should* be gone unless the Texans win double digit games AND make the playoffs. He shold've been gone last year so anything less should be unacceptable.

Don't be surprised to see a certain Walrus-looking, high-profile coach with a "dream team" get fired or quit if they fall short of the Super Bowl...

No need to throw obvious subliminals out there like Rob Ryan. Who would the Eagles possibly get to replace Andy right now?
 
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northside7;3109925 said:
9-7 in 04/05 and 12-4 in 05/06. Unless you mean good season=making the playoffs 2 or more years in a row...

when put into perspective, it was decent because of the improvement but overall thats not a good year. There is no excuse for only contenting 2 of the last 8 years and at the monent, Jags are at a standstill
 
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shenco;3110747 said:
No need to throw obvious subliminals out there like Rob Ryan. Who would the Eagles possibly get to replace Andy right now?

Sounds like a Eagle problem to me. Unless you just started watching football two years ago, you should know anybody can quit and/or get fired. And as silly as sports-talk radio, armchair QBs get -- you know Reid would get murdered by the media if he does anything less than a ring with this squad.

Not saying it's right -- 'cause honestly, I don't see the Egals as a "dream team" they still have holes like the rest of the league, but that ain't the media perception, and media perception is a bitch.
 
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greenwood1921;3110804 said:
Sounds like a Eagle problem to me. Unless you just started watching football two years ago, you should know anybody can quit and/or get fired. And as silly as sports-talk radio, armchair QBs get -- you know Reid would get murdered by the media if he does anything less than a ring with this squad.

Not saying it's right -- 'cause honestly, I don't see the Egals as a "dream team" they still have holes like the rest of the league, but that ain't the media perception, and media perception is a bitch.

Reid BEEN getting murdered by the Philly media. I understand what you saying but I'd like to think that our front office actually...well...thinks. Really ain't anybody out on the market good enough to replace Andy. All dude needs to do is run the ball more imo. That's like the main criticism against Reid. I'm not gon' say his seat wouldn't be hot if we don't at least sniff superbowl this season, but not really any good replacements out there
 
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shenco;3110949 said:
Reid BEEN getting murdered by the Philly media. I understand what you saying but I'd like to think that our front office actually...well...thinks. Really ain't anybody out on the market good enough to replace Andy. All dude needs to do is run the ball more imo. That's like the main criticism against Reid. I'm not gon' say his seat wouldn't be hot if we don't at least sniff superbowl this season, but not really any good replacements out there

There's always a good replacement for any coach. That's like saying that since one quarterback retires they'll never be another good one to get. There are plenty of teams with sharp coordinators that might be under the radar now, but could/will be good HC's. Most of the better HCs in the league right now were basically slept-on coordinators before they got the job they have now.

Mike Smith
Sean Payton
Mike Tomlin
Raheem Morris
etc, etc.

None of the above were household names or considered "slam dunk" HC choices before their respective teams hired them. Players can always be replaced, coaches can always be replaced -- Especially the ones with nothing on their fingers but hair and a wedding ring. lol
 
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greenwood1921;3111105 said:
There's always a good replacement for any coach. That's like saying that since one quarterback retires they'll never be another good one to get. There are plenty of teams with sharp coordinators that might be under the radar now, but could/will be good HC's. Most of the better HCs in the league right now were basically slept-on coordinators before they got the job they have now.

Mike Smith
Sean Payton
Mike Tomlin
Raheem Morris
etc, etc.

None of the above were household names or considered "slam dunk" HC choices before their respective teams hired them. Players can always be replaced, coaches can always be replaced -- Especially the ones with nothing on their fingers but hair and a wedding ring. lol

For this squad? Nah homie, Andy seems to be the best fit imo. Also Philly fans not trynna hear about a nobody taking control of the playcalling, these niggas don't even wanna see Casey Matthews start.
 
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shenco;3111126 said:
For this squad? Nah homie, Andy seems to be the best fit imo. Also Philly fans not trynna hear about a nobody taking control of the playcalling, these niggas don't even wanna see Casey Matthews start.

Honestly speaking, Reid was a nobody. It ain't like he was a HC before coming to Philly. Yeah, he came out of that West-Coast-Offense/Green Bay tree --- but so did half the coaches in the NFL right now.
 
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greenwood1921;3111137 said:
Honestly speaking, Reid was a nobody. It ain't like he was a HC before coming to Philly. Yeah, he came out of that West-Coast-Offense/Green Bay tree --- but so did half the coaches in the NFL right now.

Well seeing as though we had just come from 3 years of Ray Rhodes with a 29-34 record I can see why Andy was hired and at least given a chance sinc we was mediocre during that time. We've had success now and you either gotta match it or better. You think the next nigga after Charlie Manuel gon get away with anything less than a couple world series births? Hell nah. I won't get into this argument with you though
 
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shenco;3111182 said:
Well seeing as though we had just come from 3 years of Ray Rhodes with a 29-34 record I can see why Andy was hired and at least given a chance sinc we was mediocre during that time. We've had success now and you either gotta match it or better. You think the next nigga after Charlie Manuel gon get away with anything less than a couple world series births? Hell nah. I won't get into this argument with you though

Well, we are talking about the same team that "promoted" the coach of their weakest unit (offensive line) to defensive coordinator.
 
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greenwood1921;3111105 said:
There's always a good replacement for any coach. That's like saying that since one quarterback retires they'll never be another good one to get. There are plenty of teams with sharp coordinators that might be under the radar now, but could/will be good HC's. Most of the better HCs in the league right now were basically slept-on coordinators before they got the job they have now.

Mike Smith
Sean Payton
Mike Tomlin
Raheem Morris
etc, etc.

None of the above were household names or considered "slam dunk" HC choices before their respective teams hired them. Players can always be replaced, coaches can always be replaced -- Especially the ones with nothing on their fingers but hair and a wedding ring. lol

but basically every HC was a coordinator at one point, including all the bad ones. So it can't be so easy finding a good HC because all pretty much come from the same spot. Yes some college coaches go straight to NFL HCs but they don't always pan out either. It's easier to look back say things, than it is to say what's going to happen in the future with the guy your gonna go with.

For the most part I agree with you, there are good coaches out there, but I don't think its quite so easy.
 
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Will Munny;3111211 said:
but basically every HC was a coordinator at one point, including all the bad ones. So it can't be so easy finding a good HC because all pretty much come from the same spot. Yes some college coaches go straight to NFL HCs but they don't always pan out either. It's easier to look back say things, than it is to say what's going to happen in the future with the guy your gonna go with.

For the most part I agree with you, there are good coaches out there, but I don't think its quite so easy.

Never said it was easy. It takes as much research and critique as drafting/signing a player. You have to find the right "fit" based on what the organization is trying to do in the future and the players that they already have.

For example, I wasn't amused with the hiring of Mike Smith, but he was perfect for what Dimitroff and Blank wanted for the future of the Falcons. He's not the kind of coach that wants to be a GM, and he had a strong defensive, and player development background (2000 Ravens, Ray Lewis and the old front 7 in Jacksonville, etc.)

And honestly, the biggest flops have been the big name college coaches and the big name Head Coaches that had success elsewhere.

Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino, Jimmy Johnson in Miami, George Seifert in Carolina, Shanahan in Washington, Joe Gibbs' second run in Washington, etc, etc.
 
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I don't see how Rex would be on the hot seat.

Rex IS that team, they are in NY, they need a personality like that to not get overshadowed by the Giants. Jets been on the backburner for Y E A R S

Not to mention they made the AFC championship the past two years. No other AFC team has done that, and the Jets aren't even the most talented team. That's pretty impressive by itself.

"Oh but they didn't make it to the SB" Oh that's funny cuz in the past two years neither did 25 other teams. And outta those 25 Jets were the closest.

He got some time. Wait until they don't make the playoffs till he's even being considered for a firing.
 
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coop9889;3111270 said:
I don't see how Rex would be on the hot seat.

Rex IS that team, they are in NY, they need a personality like that to not get overshadowed by the Giants. Jets been on the backburner for Y E A R S

Not to mention they made the AFC championship the past two years. No other AFC team has done that, and the Jets aren't even the most talented team. That's pretty impressive by itself.

"Oh but they didn't make it to the SB" Oh that's funny cuz in the past two years neither did 25 other teams. And outta those 25 Jets were the closest.

He got some time. Wait until they don't make the playoffs till he's even being considered for a firing.

Don't really see Rex on the hot seat either -- yet. If he goes another3-5 years of talkin' much shit and falling short in the playoffs -- then yeah. Same as Andy Reid. No way I could see Andy quitting or gettin' fired like 3 or 4 years ago, but that "hype and no ring" shit gets old to fans and the organization after a while.
 
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greenwood1921;3111294 said:
Don't really see Rex on the hot seat either -- yet. If he goes another3-5 years of talkin' much shit and falling short in the playoffs -- then yeah. Same as Andy Reid. No way I could see Andy quitting or gettin' fired like 3 or 4 years ago, but that "hype and no ring" shit gets old to fans and the organization after a while.

True.

It's crazy though. I feel like some fans are spoiled. At least your team is in CONTENTION. Some fans would kill to have their team in contention year in and year out.

Like, I feel like if i was a browns/redskins fan I wouldn't even enjoy watching football.

*shots fired*
 
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