Where does Kanye rank on your all time list?

[mryounggun]

As an MC? No where near the top 25. I wanna hear from the niggas who got 'Ye in the top 10 MC's list. I see some top 5's there as well. Those would be some pretty interesting (shitty) lists.

 

[mryounggun]

And still the motherfucker you love to hate

But can't, because you love what I make

Now ain't that about a bitch

And I'mma talk shit until I'm out of hits

They don't want to turn they speakers up, they claim I ain't deep enough

All that talkin' I feed off of, keep it up.............

Fam, before I die I need to identify the woman in your sig. Shit is on my bucket list.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

I still dont see why niggas try to shit on kanye lyrically,i dont get it. Besides that tho, i can name 100 niggas with a better shot,dribble,defense, etc than jordan, I rate niggas overall, not just by one criteria. Overall he's top 10 easily imo.

Wait, what?! Did this dude really just compare wackass Kanye to Jordan. ... "I proved you lost already."

Regarding your other outlandish statements, Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year one year. That includes everyone in the entire league.

He also led the league in steals multiple times, was regarded as a lockdown defender for most of his career, and has 9 defensive first teams. Scottie has less, as does Rodman.

And Jordan was arguably the best mid-range shooter in the league for the majority of his career. He could hit those shots in his sleep. The only shot he struggled with was the 3.

Jordan was regarded as the best, because he was arguably the best or one of the best at every facet of the game in the context of a wing player. Kanye doesn't even begin to come close to that kind of dominance.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

On topic, for anyone saying Kanye writes about real content or whatever, Kanye DOES NOT WRITE HIS OWN LYRICS.

For that alone, he's done on any emcee list. We won't even get into how terrible his flow is and how he can't stay in pocket for shit.

Then there's the production where he just speeds up and slows down shit and calls it classic. It might sound good, but it's lazy as fuck and doesn't deserve praise since it's so basic.

Exhibit A:



Kayne ain't do shit with that beat. He made it worse IMO.

Exhibit B:



Woah, he's a genius! He sped the shit up and made a classic SMH.

Kanye's production is OD boring. He doesn't put anyone real work into it. Like I said earlier, he just speeds it up or slows it down. The greatest producers have you guessing how they made the beat. You can point out Kanye's shit the exact second you hear the drop.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

On topic, for anyone saying Kanye writes about real content or whatever, Kanye DOES NOT WRITE HIS OWN LYRICS.

For that alone, he's done on any emcee list. We won't even get into how terrible his flow is and how he can't stay in pocket for shit.

Then there's the production where he just speeds up and slows down shit and calls it classic. It might sound good, but it's lazy as fuck and doesn't deserve praise since it's so basic.

Exhibit A:



Kayne ain't do shit with that beat. He made it worse IMO.

Exhibit B:



Woah, he's a genius! He sped the shit up and made a classic SMH.

Kanye's production is OD boring. He doesn't put anyone real work into it. Like I said earlier, he just speeds it up or slows it down. The greatest producers have you guessing how they made the beat. You can point out Kanye's shit the exact second you hear the drop.

Didn't Kanye basically write part of Lucifer for Jay? I wouldn't be surprised if shit like that happened more times then we know behind closed doors. Snoop is know to have ghost writers as well. I'm sure Kanye has written most of his shit but he gets help for the betterment of the music and that's why his music is better then 90% of the rest of these niggas because ironically he really doesn't have an ego. He's not afraid to ask for help whether it's beats or rhymes as long as it comes out dope.

 

[_Goldie_]

I still dont see why niggas try to shit on kanye lyrically,i dont get it. Besides that tho, i can name 100 niggas with a better shot,dribble,defense, etc than jordan, I rate niggas overall, not just by one criteria. Overall he's top 10 easily imo.

Wait, what?! Did this dude really just compare wackass Kanye to Jordan. ... "I proved you lost already."

Regarding your other outlandish statements, Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year one year. That includes everyone in the entire league.

He also led the league in steals multiple times, was regarded as a lockdown defender for most of his career, and has 9 defensive first teams. Scottie has less, as does Rodman.

And Jordan was arguably the best mid-range shooter in the league for the majority of his career. He could hit those shots in his sleep. The only shot he struggled with was the 3.

Jordan was regarded as the best, because he was arguably the best or one of the best at every facet of the game in the context of a wing player. Kanye doesn't even begin to come close to that kind of dominance.

Aint you the nigga who said Jigga, Em , and Ghost arent legends? lol I wasnt even gonna respond to your shit, but fuck it.

Anybody who's old enough to remember and who actually watched the bulls play in the 90s know's phil put pippen on the opposing team's best player every game, not jordan. Rodman has 2 defensive player of the year awards to jordan's one. The fuck is a mid range shot? Im talkin about the best shot period, from any range. Jordan was in one 3 point contest and built his throne with bricks.

But fuck all that, youre missing the whole point. Jordan isnt the best at rebonds,steals,etc , but he's the best overall. Meaning that I judge a person on their overall game.

Lol @ kanye not having dominance . You started your argument off with saying "wack ass kanye", already proving your point is biased.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Didn't Kanye basically write part of Lucifer for Jay? I wouldn't be surprised if shit like that happened more times then we know behind closed doors. Snoop is know to have ghost writers as well. I'm sure Kanye has written most of his shit but he gets help for the betterment of the music and that's why his music is better then 90% of the rest of these niggas because ironically he really doesn't have an ego. He's not afraid to ask for help whether it's beats or rhymes as long as it comes out dope.

IDK but hook writing is different than writing lyrics for an actual verse/song. Any emcee who uses ghostwriters is a fraud.

So with Kanye, yes some of his shit sounds good musically, but he doesn't write a lot of it. That's not an artist, that's more like a program director or something along those lines. He's more like a Dr. Dre or someone like that.

But fuck all that, youre missing the whole point. Jordan isnt the best at rebonds,steals,etc , but he's the best overall. Meaning that I judge a person on their overall game.

Lol @ kanye not having dominance . You started your argument off with saying "wack ass kanye", already proving your point is biased.

How can Kanye be the best overall when there are tons of people who rap better?

When he doesn't write his own lyrics, yet there are tons of rappers who would never not write their own verse?

The only thing Kanye has going for him is he has a pretty good ear for beats, and he performs pretty well. Anything rap related, dead it.

And it's obvious if anyone is bias, it's you. You have Kanye in your top 10 all-time.

 

[supergangster]

65 votes and nobody vote him as the greatest LMAO. Kanye keeps loosing

 

[soulbrother]

somewhere between 42 - 67

 

[_Goldie_]

lol @ kanye has a good ear for beats, this nigga's hilarious

This is like the dr dre thread, I need to see receipts.... Where is all this proof kanye doesnt write his rhymes, you seem to be positive about it.

 

[supergangster]

Nas

AZ

Mobb Deep

Cormega

Kool G Rap

Raekwon

Ghostface Killah

Inspectah Deck

Kurupt

Tupac

Ice Cube

Dmx

Method Man

Snoop dogg

50 Cent

Lloyd Banks

LL Cool J

Scarface

Big L

TI

Styles P

GZA

Jadakiss

Rakim

Common

Lil Wayne

Slick Rick

Andree 3000

Big Boi

Big PUn

Biggie

Kanye West

 

[StoneColdMikey]

lol @ kanye has a good ear for beats, this nigga's hilarious

This is like the dr dre thread, I need to see receipts.... Where is all this proof kanye doesnt write his rhymes, you seem to be positive about it.

Ryhmefest cowrote jesus walks and all of the lights. he don't use ghost writers cuz he credits them in the album

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Nas

AZ

Mobb Deep

Cormega

Kool G Rap

Raekwon

Ghostface Killah

Inspectah Deck

Kurupt

Tupac

Ice Cube

Dmx

Method Man

Snoop dogg

50 Cent

Lloyd Banks

LL Cool J

Scarface

Big L

TI

Styles P

GZA

Jadakiss

Rakim

Common

Lil Wayne

Slick Rick

Andree 3000

Big Boi

Big PUn

Biggie

Kanye West

Kurupt? Inspectah deck?? and I fuck with the both of them but... come on my nigga.. I can make a solid case for Kanye being better then almost everyone you listed.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

I'm willing to be the writes more then 75% of his music. He's not Dr Dre or Diddy. Stop it...

 

[onthafly]

Ye could've been in my top 5.But once he got outed for not writing his own shit..I never looked at him the same after that..but he's anywhere from top 15 to 25 tho..Off the strength of him being powerful enough to shift hip hop culture (for better or worse) and his discography being great..He got 4 Albums that you could argue are classic..

When did he ever get outed for not writing his own shit? Dude started rappin on his own before he ever made beats and he even gave ludacris that 'how you ain't gone fuck, bitch i'm me, i'm the god damn reason you in v.i.p.' line on stand up.

 

[MrJR]

Kanye is a better artist than Jay-Z

 

[MrJR]

And yall take this co-writing shit to serious if I change up the way 2 lines were on a Kanye song he probably would put me as a co-writer

 

[TheManInBlack4.0]

As a rapper he doesn't.

 

[_Goldie_]

lol @ kanye has a good ear for beats, this nigga's hilarious

This is like the dr dre thread, I need to see receipts.... Where is all this proof kanye doesnt write his rhymes, you seem to be positive about it.

Ryhmefest cowrote jesus walks and all of the lights. he don't use ghost writers cuz he credits them in the album

Every artist has help with hooks and ideas, like Nas and that whole dead prez situation. Where is proof that he had niggas write his verses?

 

[real_hh_rep]

Kanye is a great artist, shitty MC. Sorry, but I can't take his mumbling, simplistic, no flow having technique into consideration.