When did Ja Rule jump the shark?

[international]

yall rlly goin in on ja lol. i liked ja songs to be honest . i felt that ja couldnt respond to alot of 50cent disses cuz they had the feds on em plus half music industry turned their backs on them ,just like the fans did . 50 used that to his advantage.

That was the funniest shit about the whole 50 Cent/Murder Inc beef. 50 spent all that time saying Murda Inc weren't real street niggas, while they were getting raided and investigated by the Feds and put on trial. Shit was hilarious. 50 literally remade the Put It On Me video with 21 Questions and nobody gave a damn. How people fell for this shit I'll never understand

Co-sign I saw this shyt transpiring then, hence why I never fucked wit 50 like that...lets not also forget that he was dry snitching on them and getting his ass whooped by them niggaz whenever they crossed paths...smh

 

[Muhannad]

I think it's dafe to establish that rappers that solely try to cater to that commercial crowd won't last. Their music lacks substance > they got no solid fanbase > that fanbase will grow out of them and the new popfans will latch on to something new > the majority of their material lacks replay value.

"Down a*s chick" is dope but sounds dated. Same with "Down 4 u", "Hot in herre" and most of these hits from those commercial rappers that were hot in that era. I'm listening to "Bartender" right now. Still cool but dated as well eventhough it came out just 6 years ago.

If you make music with the purpose of scoring hits instead of trying to make great music you can achieve success but you will fall off after a few years...

A lot of artists tried to rip LL and fell flat on their faces. Now I got love for Drake and all that but I see him looking like the new and improved Ja Rule for this generation. Same theme, similar image (both are hardcore simps) and fans are getting upset with it and want more harder records. One good beef with an artist from his generation and that's all it'll take to knock him off his high horse. It happened to Ja, Lil Flip, hell it even happened to Pac & Big. You seeing it with Wale also not just Drake. For these new artists I think Ja Rule is a good tragedy to learn from.

@sion

i see what you trying to say but drake and ja rule are very different

drake is not hardcore and the main crux of his fanbase is suburban middle class kids not the street

he never had the street and never claimed to be street

ja rule came out calling himself murder inc and his first big single was "holla holla"

he was a street rapper doing songs like Murdergram with jay-z and dmx

he was trying to rep the hood

of course they allowed him to do a few songs for the ladies, just like ppl let fifty cent do tracks like 21 questions

the problem came when that was ALL ja rule did

he was well rounded at first, saw he had a big hit with whatever the first of those sing songs was, and then he just started doing that shit over and over

drake, on the other hand, came out the box doing the same shit he doing now, no one is saying he "Changed"

he always been this guy

and anyway his rap skills are way more advanced than ja-rule

plus he aligns himself with too many people, to ever really have a 50 cent type beef

I was with you until the bolded. Drake ain't seeing Ja line for line IMO. I'm not gonna derail the thread by talking about Drake though. You was right with everything else though...

 

[5th Letter]

Ja Rule and Murda Inc got cocky as hell. Just peep the Pledge video with Nas (one of my favorite Ja songs) they were really feeling themselves. I bet they ain't anticipate what was about to happen to them.

Ja Rules mini resurgence in 04 was dope though he dropped 2 dope singles with Wondeful and NY NY. That album was slept on btw.

 

[loch121]

The song/album with Bobby Brown(Which was his 1st bad album) he had drained the Ashanti duets to death followed by the feds and then 50

 

[monolithic]

The icing on the cake was when he did that radio interview with Farrakhan, and 50 didn't show. Nigga was in the middle of some beef spilling his feelings out, talking about his Jehovah witness upbringing. sounding like he needed a hug.

 

[MR.CJ]

The icing on the cake was when he did that radio interview with Farrakhan, and 50 didn't show. Nigga was in the middle of some beef spilling his feelings out, talking about his Jehovah witness upbringing. sounding like he needed a hug.

When was this?

 

[5th Letter]

The icing on the cake was when he did that radio interview with Farrakhan, and 50 didn't show. Nigga was in the middle of some beef spilling his feelings out, talking about his Jehovah witness upbringing. sounding like he needed a hug.

When was this?

Around the time when Ja dropped blood in my eye.

 

[RickyRich]

yall rlly goin in on ja lol. i liked ja songs to be honest . i felt that ja couldnt respond to alot of 50cent disses cuz they had the feds on em plus half music industry turned their backs on them ,just like the fans did . 50 used that to his advantage.

That was the funniest shit about the whole 50 Cent/Murder Inc beef. 50 spent all that time saying Murda Inc weren't real street niggas, while they were getting raided and investigated by the Feds and put on trial. Shit was hilarious. 50 literally remade the Put It On Me video with 21 Questions and nobody gave a damn. How people fell for this shit I'll never understand

most of 50 tracks remind me of jarule tracks . ja rule had dropped this track called get up , which i thought it was actually good song but i dont tink no one fucked song wit it.Next thing i see 50cent dropped a song called get up with a similar beat to jarule .

 

[mindright]

the grease theme video and the joint he did with J.Lo when he was talkin bout " I got my boyfriends maybe we can be friends".....fucking terrible

 

[esco soprano]

His PAC jockin was just absolutely disgusting. He dickrode so hard it was the embodiment of biting.

 

[RickyRich]

i dont get why ja gets the most flock for jockin pac wen half the rap game did also

 

[5th Letter]

He was obnoxious with it

 

[damobb2deep]

haters was his downfall imo... they hated him secretly so when 50 gained buzz they latched on 2 him and used that 2 discredit him...

 

[pinyapplesuckas]

ja has yet to reach his prime

 

[eastbay510]

For me it was when I heard a radio interview with him saying he was the 2nd coming of Pac or some shit like that ... And all them pop and R&B songs got corny. Then came 50 and that was it for Ja.

He did have a few hits back in the day though can't front

 

[HarlemThumzUp]

"jump the shark" tho?

is that some new york shit or sumn?

That's a common phrase when something starts going downhill. It started when Fonzie tried to jump over a shark on an episode of Happy Days

u know niggas is like Happy Days? Fonzy ? the fucc

 

[KLICHE]

I have a friend (male) who is a HUGE fan of JA. HE has him on his phone as a screensaver, the one of him out of jail shirtless flexing LMAO and he always keeps up to date on EVERYthing Ja is doing! LOL Shit is crazy. I just can't see the reason behind it all.. not when you're a man

 

[antarticp]

when he refused to do anything but pop records and all that singing shit.i understand he wanted commercial success but abandoning being a rapper to sing though? fuck all that. R.U.L.E album was the end for him imo.

true but look @ today with Drake ... ijs ja rule was a little to ahead of his time on some Mc Hammer ish ......

 

[Batman.]

I have a friend (male) who is a HUGE fan of JA. HE has him on his phone as a screensaver, the one of him out of jail shirtless flexing LMAO and he always keeps up to date on EVERYthing Ja is doing! LOL Shit is crazy. I just can't see the reason behind it all.. not when you're a man

Your friend is gay.

 

[antarticp]

I have a friend (male) who is a HUGE fan of JA. HE has him on his phone as a screensaver, the one of him out of jail shirtless flexing LMAO and he always keeps up to date on EVERYthing Ja is doing! LOL Shit is crazy. I just can't see the reason behind it all.. not when you're a man

Your friend is gay.

lol damn he might just be lol