Whats Your Thoughts On Abortion?

[VIBE]

You asked If that person deserves to be put in jail, I said it depends.

 

[zombie]

Or people say abortion is wrong but they don't have a problem with animals being slaughtered for them to eat every night.

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said. You are comparing the worth of human beings to animals. Every pig on earth is not worth one innocent human life.

Abortion is evil unless the mom life is in danger.

The death penality should only apply to rapist. Because their are some crimes you do then there are some crimes you are.

 

[zombie]

It's that couple's choice whether or not they want to have their baby or abort that.

No it's not the couple's choice it's only the womans and that in itself is wrong.

 

[Bodhi]

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Thanks for paying attention to everything I say.

Humans are animals so life is life regardless of the species IMO

 

[VIBE]

You asked If that person deserves to be put in jail, I said it depends.

There should be nothing to depend on if you contend that "murder is murder" and that "you can't say it's wrong and then say it's right under certain circumstances".

That's hypocrisy, yo.

Murder is murder, we all know that.

If someone kills someone in self defense, it's murder, but under certain laws, that person might not be imprisoned.

Doesn't change the fact that what happened was murder though.

 

[VIBE]

I believe both are murder also.

What I'm saying is, you can't say they're both completely the same as they are not indeed equal.

An innocent unborn life hasn't even had the opportunity to 'sin' yet.

Whereas the deathrow inmate has been convicted of a horrendeous crime and has been judged by a jury to be executed.

I'm not implying both are equal, I'm just talking about the murder itself, not the individuals morality.

 

[7figz]

It's that couple's choice whether or not they want to have their baby or abort that.

No it's not the couple's choice it's only the womans and that in itself is wrong.

Wrong that only the woman gets to decide - or wrong overall ?

I'm also of the opinion that the father should have equal say over it.

One thing for certain though is who shouldn't have a say - is any other person besides the mother and the father.

 

[Bodhi]

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Thanks for paying attention.

Humans are animals so life is life regardless of the species IMO

You do realize that plants are also alive, so those veggies and fruits vegetarians eat were once alive as well.

Very silly argument "life is life".

The difference is the sentience of animals. Plants have no subjective experiences and do not feel pain.

 

[BoldChild]

Or people say abortion is wrong but they don't have a problem with animals being slaughtered for them to eat every night.

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said. You are comparing the worth of human beings to animals. Every pig on earth is not worth one innocent human life.

Abortion is evil unless the mom life is in danger.

The death penality should only apply to rapist. Because their are some crimes you do then there are some crimes you are.

As if niggas would give up ribs because some random nigga from Hungary will get hung if they don't.

 

[Bodhi]

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Thanks for paying attention.

Humans are animals so life is life regardless of the species IMO

You do realize that plants are also alive, so those veggies and fruits vegetarians eat were once alive as well.

Very silly argument "life is life".

The difference is the sentience of animals. Plants have no subjective experiences and do not feel pain.

Plants can repair damage to themselves, plants are able to turn towards the sun, whether or not they feel pain or not isn't conclusive. So because it makes vegetarians and people like yourself to feel better knowing you're digesting a creature that was once alive you tell yourself the plants never felt a thing, as if feeling or not feeling pain is the ultimate justification for whether or not a life is taken.

1. Plants have no nervous system or brain. These are necessary for "pain" to be "felt".

2. Plants repairing themselves and moving towards the sun are not conscious actions and have nothing to do with personal choice. Magnets are attracted to certain metals but it doesn't mean the magnet is making a personal choice to act in that way.

 

[Ajackson17]

We are murderers irregardless, it's in our genetics to devour life for our lively hoods, animosity, hatred, etc. You get the point we are devours, a locust if you would like to be more accurate.

 

[irad4185]

Prochoice. I like to believe life begins when a fetus a formed so any thing before that is cool.

Murder isn't murder though, there are reasons and circumstances behind it that must be taken into consideration when deciding on the punishment that is or isn't deserved.

Murder is murder. Not being punished or being punished doesn't change the fact that one person directly cause another person's death. Circumstatnces = prochoice

 

[Bodhi]

The definition of pain is a signal of impending or present tissue damage that's affected by a harmful stimulus, and thus is experienced by almost all multicellular organisms.

Pain is subjective, meaning one has to have consciousness to experience it.

pain is a signal of impending or present tissue damage

The brain is necessary for this process.

The term "pain" is a subjective experience that typically accompanies nociception, but can also arise without any stimulus, and thus it includes the emotional response. Nociception, on the other hand, is a neurophysiological term that denotes specific activity in nerve pathways. It is the transmission mechanism for physiological pain and does not describe psychological pain.

The perception of pain occurs when nociceptors are stimulated and transmit signals through sensory neurons in the spinal cord. These neurons release glutamate, a major excitory neurotransmitter that relays signals from one neuron to another. The signals are sent to the thalamus (part of brain), in which pain perception occurs. From the thalamus, the signal travels to the somatosensory cortex in the cerebrum, at which point the individual becomes fully aware of the pain. The cerebrum occupies most of the cranial cavity and is responsible for higher mental functions such as thought, emotion, reason, and memory. It also integrates sensory and motor functions.

 

[zombie]

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This is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Thanks for paying attention.

Humans are animals so life is life regardless of the species IMO

You do realize that plants are also alive, so those veggies and fruits vegetarians eat were once alive as well.

Very silly argument "life is life".

The difference is the sentience of animals. Plants have no subjective experiences and do not feel pain.

Plants can repair damage to themselves, plants are able to turn towards the sun, whether or not they feel pain or not isn't conclusive. So because it makes vegetarians and people like yourself to feel better knowing you're digesting a creature that was once alive you tell yourself the plants never felt a thing, as if feeling or not feeling pain is the ultimate justification for whether or not a life is taken.

1. Plants have no nervous system or brain. These are necessary for "pain" to be "felt".

2. Plants repairing themselves and moving towards the sun are strictly chemical reactions and have nothing to do with personal choice. Magnets are attracted to certain metals but it doesn't mean the magnet is making a personal choice to act in that way.

It makes no difference if animals or plants feel pain or not. They are both food, and food is to be eaten. The death of food sustains human life, this death is good.

The death caused by abortion in most cases does no good. Human beings are so much more than animals, and if you think that is all we are then why should we not act like it and eat whatever the fuck we want.

 

[7figz]

it

This is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

Thanks for paying attention.

Humans are animals so life is life regardless of the species IMO

You do realize that plants are also alive, so those veggies and fruits vegetarians eat were once alive as well.

Very silly argument "life is life".

The difference is the sentience of animals. Plants have no subjective experiences and do not feel pain.

Plants can repair damage to themselves, plants are able to turn towards the sun, whether or not they feel pain or not isn't conclusive. So because it makes vegetarians and people like yourself to feel better knowing you're digesting a creature that was once alive you tell yourself the plants never felt a thing, as if feeling or not feeling pain is the ultimate justification for whether or not a life is taken.

1. Plants have no nervous system or brain. These are necessary for "pain" to be "felt".

2. Plants repairing themselves and moving towards the sun are strictly chemical reactions and have nothing to do with personal choice. Magnets are attracted to certain metals but it doesn't mean the magnet is making a personal choice to act in that way.

It makes no difference if animals or plants feel pain or not. They are both food, and food is to be eaten. The death of food sustains human life, this death is good.

The death caused by abortion in most cases does no good. Human beings are so much more than animals, and if you think that is all we are then why should we not act like it and eat whatever the fuck we want.

The bolded is easily arguable.

Ex. A kid being born to parents incapable or who don't want that kid.

 

[VIBE]

You asked If that person deserves to be put in jail, I said it depends.

There should be nothing to depend on if you contend that "murder is murder" and that "you can't say it's wrong and then say it's right under certain circumstances".

That's hypocrisy, yo.

Murder is murder, we all know that.

If someone kills someone in self defense, it's murder, but under certain laws, that person might not be imprisoned.

Doesn't change the fact that what happened was murder though.

Why is your stance changing now? When it was people that are pro-life/pro-capital punishment, you were on this stance that murder is murder and if it is wrong under one circumstance then it should be wrong under all circumstances?

Now suddenly when the question is asked to you, it depends? Hold yourself to the same ridiculous standard that you hold people that are pro-life/pro-capital punishment so you won't be a hypocrite.

But that's not my stance, I don't believe murder is right or wrong. I don't care tbh, it may be sad in some cases but I don't feel there's a "right or wrong", because I feel murder is natural.

I'm talking about the people who feel abortion is wrong because its murder but are okay w something like the DP, which is murder as well.

I never gave my personal stance on it.

 

[blacktux]

The very notion that you can tell someone what to do with their own body is what i am against. Call it what you want.

Till that motherfucker come out the pussy crying and moving that aint no baby. Abortion is not murder it is a responsible choice based on circumstances and should be afforded to all women that seek it.

@lil loca as always you make some good points that got cosigns and GOATS from ya man, at the same time these motherfuckers getting their hair did, nails did, everything did HAVE THE MONEY to afford those services.

Priorities man.

 

[Bodhi]

and if you think that is all we are then why should we not act like it and eat whatever the fuck we want.

some humans do.

 

[zombie]

It's that couple's choice whether or not they want to have their baby or abort that.

No it's not the couple's choice it's only the womans and that in itself is wrong.

Wrong that only the woman gets to decide - or wrong overall ?

I'm also of the opinion that the father should have equal say over it.

One thing for certain though is who shouldn't have a say - is any other person besides the mother and the father.

Both. Wrong overall and wrong that the man has no say so. Especially since he can be forced to pay child support.

 

[VIBE]

Murder is neither right or wrong in my eyes. It is all equal, regardless of the situation.

I said depends, based on what laws are working against or in favor for someone. If it is breaking the law, based on the law, then it is so.

That is my stance.

I am not a hypocrite since I have no outlook on murder as "right" or "wrong". The only thing I said was "murder is murder", I gave no weight to it, you did that.