Whats Your Thoughts On Abortion?

[Idiopathic Joker]

Exactly how is trying to suppress a natural, human instinct logical? Our bodies were programmed to enjoy it and rely on it. It's actually more illogical to think that sexual repression is actually good for you and will solve social problems when its basically a normal human desire.

Murder is also a natural human desire. Why suppress that?

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Exactly how is trying to suppress a natural, human instinct logical? Our bodies were programmed to enjoy it and rely on it. It's actually more illogical to think that sexual repression is actually good for you and will solve social problems when its basically a normal human desire.

Murder is also a natural human desire. Why suppress that?

It is? I thought it was abnormal desire, as the human race does not necessarily depend on it in order to survive.

Murder and greed are natural human desires. Man is both good and evil. Survival is not always practical. Man is evil naturally

 

[Ajackson17]

Urges to kill is actually not abnormal, sharing is abnormal, there is a lot of shit that is considered good abnormal. Justice, Love, Peace, safe environments are NOT NORMAL! They are abnormalities in this world, but we have made them work haven' we and strive for it. Killing urges is actually good for the body and mind. Buddhism preaches about that and starving yourself can add years on your life shown with different mammals, repressing your sexual energy can strengthen you.

 

[Ajackson17]

It can be debated if murder is a natural desire. However, it is universally agreed upon that sex is a natural instinct in order to keep the human race alive.

So I guess responsibility flies out the door? That's where your argument is leading you too.

 

[Ajackson17]

Wisdom would tell you it's better for you to wait for a union where you two are only having sex with one other person where you both can take care of a child(ren) within reason, but we both agree sex is for procreation.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Yea abortion can be considered no different than what the nazis intended. Dwarnisim and all that shit

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

It can be debated if murder is a natural desire. However, it is universally agreed upon that sex is a natural instinct in order to keep the human race alive.

If murder isn't natural, what is its origin?

 

[Ajackson17]

Urges to kill is actually not abnormal, sharing is abnormal, there is a lot of shit that is considered good abnormal. Justice, Love, Peace, safe environments are NOT NORMAL! They are abnormalities in this world, but we have made them work haven' we and strive for it. Killing urges is actually good for the body and mind. Buddhism preaches about that and starving yourself can add years on your life shown with different mammals, repressing your sexual energy can strengthen you.

To be honest, your pro-life stance sounds more spiritually based than it objective. Not everyone subscribes to Buddhist beliefs about sex--nor should they--they certainly aren't helping the rates of unintended pregnancies fail. Some people are strengthened by not having sex--some people are. Buddhism should be held as a standard as what to do sexually as a one size fits all.

Thank you for agreeing lol. It is completely objective and needed as we span towards a new era. Self control is important and vital for all aspects of our lives. People who try to hide behind human nature don't want to face that we can achieve anything and controlling our lives gives us greater strength and cohesiveness as a species. I do agree education should be given, I didn't suggest feigning ignorance but the highest level to achieve in sexuality is not allowing ourselves to give ourselves to different people.

For an example - The woman mind cannot differentiate between a one night stand and relationship with sex. She cannot turn it off. Oxycontin is a prime example and it can happen to men as well.

 

[ohhhla]

I am against abortion because it is unethical.........

On top of that, it has been used in social engineering across the globe......

@ 0:30:00.........

What's ethical and unethical is subjective.

 

[Ajackson17]

Yea abortion can be considered no different than what the nazis intended. Dwarnisim and all that shit

I don't know why they call it darwinism when he was completely against the idea itself.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

It can be debated if murder is a natural desire. However, it is universally agreed upon that sex is a natural instinct in order to keep the human race alive.

If murder isn't natural, what is its origin?

Joker out here using his brains n shit...gangsta

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Yea abortion can be considered no different than what the nazis intended. Dwarnisim and all that shit

I don't know why they call it darwinism when he was completely against the idea itself.

I have heard differently. But I have yet to find documentation that directly links him to it, though I have seen him quoted often in "ethnic cleansing" discussions.

I spelled that dudes name all fucked up...

 

[Ajackson17]

Here is what he thought about it, he even said he never even really gave much thought of the economic aspect. It was his fans in high places that made it and he was quite surprised they would even take it that far. He always thought it would be the wise man who would make it not the dumbass.
http://www.csustan.edu/history/faculty/weikart/Recently-Discovered-Darwin-Letter.pdf

 

[Ajackson17]

Yea abortion can be considered no different than what the nazis intended. Dwarnisim and all that shit

I don't know why they call it Darwinism when he was completely against the idea itself.

It is called social Darwinism because it uses the chief proponent of his theory of evolution (survival of the fittest or natural selection) and applies it to social problems.......

Such as abortion, welfare, educational system, and the general structure of a nations social structure......

Surgical abortion was not common until the end of the 19th century--and would have been reckless prior to the invention of the Hegar dilator in 1879......

So Darwin would have most likely been against the procedure.........

As it was archaic in the late 19th century.........

Yea abortion can be considered no different than what the nazis intended. Dwarnisim and all that shit

I don't know why they call it Darwinism when he was completely against the idea itself.

It is called social Darwinism because it uses the chief proponent of his theory of evolution (survival of the fittest or natural selection) and applies it to social problems.......

Such as abortion, welfare, educational system, and the general structure of a nations social structure......

Surgical abortion was not common until the end of the 19th century--and would have been reckless prior to the invention of the Hegar dilator in 1879......

So Darwin would have most likely been against the procedure.........

As it was archaic in the late 19th century.........

I know why they use his name, but he didn't believe in it so I would think it would be more respectful to not use his name. Nah'mean?

 

[Louis Cipher]

skippy....you do realize that we are talking about 2 entirely different things dont you? youre talking the practical , perfect, effectiveness of condoms...and im talking about how effective they are generally....

if all things are perfect...then yea condoms do their job....but that doesnt always happen...because condoms slip...break....rip...what have you...how many times has one slipped off of you? or broken? i bet it was a lot more than 2% of the time...

i bet you dont even know what correct and consistent usage means? do you?

here..... im not typing all this out...read it for yourself....

vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/26/10511064-condom-use-101-basic-errors-are-so-common-study-finds?lite

heres a tidbit for you tho(since this 98% is so dear to you)....With perfect use, condoms prevent pregnancy with 98 percent success, according to the World Health Organization. Typically, however, the rate of unintended pregnancy with condoms is around 15 percent. [The History & Future of Birth Control]

no you are talking about 2 different things.  i told you in my very first post that condoms are 98% effective in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY.  i said that off top. its not my fault you cant fucking read.

If condoms are used properly, they are 98% effective in preventing STIs and unplanned pregnancy.

Govt. of Western Australia
http://www.getthefacts.health.wa.gov.au/3/53/1/male_condoms.pm

Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.

for the dumb niggas (louis cipher) who dont understand percentages 2 out of 100 = 98% effective rate

University of Michigan
http://www.uhs.umich.edu/contraception-male-condom-facts

you are losing all over the world dumb ass. from michigan to western australia you are just collecting L's. as i said earlier condoms have a 98% effective rate when used CORRECTLY. fucking idiot. if your ignorant ass would have read my 1st post in which i clearly said the effective rate for condoms in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY is 98% you wouldnt have spent all fucking night making a fool of yourself.

god gave you 2 eyes and 1 mouth for a reason. i suggest you READ before you talk. that may help prevent another display of uncontrolled stupidity. but thats the problem w/niggas like you. you have failed to realize just how STUPID you are.

i hope yall have been taking notes. this is how you crush a dumb nigga who doesnt know just how fucking DUMB he really is.

facts & stats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dumb niggas & illiteracy

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whew...i just woke up....and you still mad...

bruh it takes a very special type of intellect or lack thereof to sit down and type out cuss words on a message board...you and i both can post links to prove our points...you have and so have i...

i stand by my assertion that condoms have a failure rate up to 15% in some instances...yea they can have an effective rate of 98% with correct and consistent use...but if they are failing...that obviously means that they arent always being used correctly...right?

well that seems obvious to me...maybe not so much to you...

you see what i did there?

...i made my points without cussing and being ignorant...you should try it...people would take you seriously if you act like you have some sense...but thats neither here nor there...

what else you got?

you are a clown and you are still WRONG on multiple fronts. first and foremost in my initial post i said:

"condoms are 98% effective against preventing pregnancy when used correctly."

you claimed that was false so i had to bitch slap you with multiple cross verified FACTS such as....................

Male condoms-Sheaths or coverings that fit over a man's erect penis. Forms a barrier to prevent sperm and egg from meeting

Effectiveness to prevent pregnancy-98% with correct and consistent use

World Health Organization
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs351/en/index.html

you still have not been able to refute this basic FACT that i established on my 1st post. the same post that you so brilliantly claimed was false. im still waiting for you to disprove this FACT.

after that FACT left a lump on your empty ass head you furthered exposed your ignorance by conflating the 2% failure rate of condoms with the 15% ineffective rate as a result of IMPROPER USAGE. these are 2 completely and totally different things jack ass. product failure is not the same as human factor failure. the 2% of condoms that break while being used CORRECTLY are in a totally different statistical category than the 15% of condoms that fail b/c they were IMPROPERLY USED. this is why product information, instructions, and warnings are written on condoms packages and boxes....................

Other studies that do not measure for incorrect use, but only for "regular use", indicate that the pregnancy rate may be as high as 15% of couples. But this number is skewed because it includes improper use. The main reason that condoms sometimes fail to prevent pregnancy is incorrect or inconsistent use, not the failure of the condom itself.

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a guy dying in a car crash after he falls asleep behind the wheel is totally different from a guy dying in a car crash after his front tire separates on the freeway. this is why firestone and ford were forced to settle a multi million lawsuit. you are obviously to fucking stupid to see the logical, statistical and legal differences between these 2 totally different scenarios.

you dont want it w/me junior. i come on this website to pass time and bullshit. but for a guy to be totally intellectually dominated and embarrassed by a dude who is watching tv, drinking beer and wasting time doesnt speak very highly of you. think twice before you allow your ill informed dick sucker to get you in trouble. now run along and play. maybe you can find a very busy freeway to run through blindfolded. and never forget these all important and ever so true words...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-fdMl7KU8s

i assume you missed the part where i said that we have been talking about 2 different things...

i'll say it again...take the emotion down a couple notches bruh...my assertion still stands...and i stand behind it...

i dont have to resort to name-calling and insults and ignorance....

im just passing time at work...i troll to pass time on my shift...

you dont realize but ive successfully trolled you, now over 2 nights...

ive gotten you upset and angry for my entertainment....im sitting here in my lab...working...studying...and playing with you...

you being a falcon fan tells us all we need to know about your intellect...

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Bruh, I don't believe he was trying to be a smart ass wit you...

 

[Ajackson17]

Darwin didn't think much of socio-economic part of his theory, he didn't even intended of branching out that way and he said he didn't know much of economics anyway. I understand since he is an INTP, we don't really look at the human aspect when we are creating theories if it doesn't apply to them in how they think and feel etc.

 

[Louis Cipher]

Bruh, I don't believe he was trying to be a smart ass wit you...

this thread went way left...im sorry i even participated in that...but i couldnt resist ol'boy....too much free-time in the lab....idle mind and all....

 

[Ajackson17]

Darwin didn't think much of socio-economic part of his theory, he didn't even intended of branching out that way and he said he didn't know much of economics anyway. I understand since he is an INTP, we don't really look at the human aspect when we are creating theories if it doesn't apply to them in how they think and feel etc.

Yeah Darwin stuck to the origin of species in the natural world.........

His cousin is responsible for the applying the theory to mankind...........

Myers-Briggs Type Indicators were created out of this ideology..........

And has the same cultural, racial, and gender biases as other intelligence tests........

The terminology of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is "vague and general" as to allow any kind of behavior to fit any personality type, which may result in the Forer effect, where individuals give a high rating to a positive description that supposedly applies specifically to them........

Oh I see. I like how Jung went with it but Myers-Briggs had too many rules and some of them do apply due to how the brain works, but the brain is far more complicated than how they link the cognitive functions.

After reading some of Darwin, I just know we have the same tendencies and thinking ways. Which why I can see why he would be impartial to social economics. To me thats just people who want to control people and classes.

 

[skpjr78]

peon ass nigga lol. real niggas w/real jobs dont have time to bullshit on the ic while @ work. if i dont do my job ppl from coast to coast are in the dark and the economy collaspes. i guess theres always time for the ic between sweeping the floors and refilling the soap dispensers

why a person would introduce irrelevant info into a debate w/o producing any empirical data to back his erroneous position is beyond me. there only 2 reasons for that A) you dont understand the data you are presenting or B) you dont understand its irrelevance. either way ur an idiot. but what do you expect from the 3rd shift cleaning boy. at the end of the day my initial post is still the gospel

"condoms are 98% effective against preventing pregnancy when used correctly."

but check it out homie. its been a long and somewhat disappointing day. i have to get ready to do real ic free work in the morning. so take it easy bruh and try not to spill any garbage juice on urself when you empty the dumpsters