What's the biggest reason for the disconnect between the younger and older generation of hip hop fan

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[Stew]

No respect.

 

[Fosheezy]

These lil niggas just don't respect nothing they don't feel had an impact on they life

 

[AZTG]

But really, hip hop is different from other forms of music because you trully have to relate to the bars thats being heard. With that being the case, its hard to expect people across different genetations to relate to the same things especially with how fast shit changes in the social media era. I didnt even get to use instagram before people jumped to snapchat, and im sure now they using something else that I never even heard of.

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

Alot of these new niggas are factory made. Packaged the same, look the same and sound the same. Nothing about them stands out other than the dumb shit they do that we all did as teens/young adults. We never broadcasted our antics but they put it out there as being cool and normal to get social media fame. People my age that i grew up with used those times as learning experiences and references on what not to do to stay out of trouble or flip a situation in our favor. New niggas dont care about shit and it shows in their music and fashion. Of course there are older artist who make trash music and do dumb shit as well, but the new niggas are way more consistent with that bullshit.

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

I will give credit to the new niggas for using social media to get on, but of course they fick that up by posting dumb incriminating shit too smh.

 

[twenty2]

The fact that each respective generation wants to be viewed as "the greatest"...as if great shit can't be found all around...

The competitiveness in hip hop is somewhat of a double-edged sword and muhfuckas become so hellbent on trying to prove "look how much better I am than you". It just leads to a show of no respect on both ends.

Also the fact that there's this stigma that muhfuckas can/should "age out" of hip hop prolly has a lot to do with it too...

 

[rip.dilla]

My question is what do you think started the divide and how can we get to a middle ground?

I'm on that ground already so I'm sorry I don't have a solution or clue to this problem...

And the ironic thing is the IC actually did open my mind to HipHop acts I normally wouldn't listen to a decade ago...

 

[Kwan Dai]

The biggest disconnect is, the newer generation believes Hip Hop is, music, clothes and drugs. The newer generation especially outside of NY and Cali. don't engage in Bboying\breaking, DJing, and Bombing. Their appreciation for the total art from is lacking.

Also, the newer generation believes the stuff they are doing is new. And alot of what we see now is a watered down whack version of what came prior. Another issue is the younger generation not respecting the opinion\experiences of older Hip Hoppers. Many today say well your parents did the same thing. No our parents didn't because our parents didn't know what Hip Hop was. Most of us who have been living with Hip Hop for 35+ years listened to our parents music and agreed that James Brown was the king, Stevie was a prodigy, EWF was the GOAT band and Marvin was the king of soul. We rocked with all that shit. We differed with our parents on Hip Hop because, they didn't know what it was. Hell we didn't know what it was. Shit we were hearing and seeing was shit that was introduced into the universe for the first time. But now we know what Hip Hop is, what it should sound like, look like, feel like etc etc. Just like our parents knew what soul music, blues, jazz and funk was.

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Recently the Dr Dre thread (mostly) featured a divide between younger and older fans where mostly the younger fans think Dre in this current year is irrelevant. We've also seen similar opinions in regard to other older rap acts. On the flipside we've seen the newer generation of rappers get dismissed by the older fans as well. My question is what do you think started the divide and how can we get to a middle ground?

I'm not a junkie

 

[Ibex]

I think one of the biggest disconnects from the older to the younger generation is there's not enough emphasis on lyricism and crafting albums. If you can come up with a catchy hook and put out 1 or 2 good singles that seems to be all you need for success. People don't seem to care as much if you can craft a complete album with thought provoking tracks. In addition I think a lot of the older cats are disgusted at the youngins for allowing a lot suspect faggotry behavior and not calling them out on it.

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

The "old heads" fucked all of this shit up. You cant blame the youth.

The apple dont fall far from the tree. It's a process to go from great to shit. Shit didnt create itself.

Who told thes kids its cool to talk about drugs and violence? They didnt teach themselves.

Who started wearing these faggot ass clothes? They didnt just wake up one day and say im going to wear tight clothes. That shit was pushed on them just like baggy jeans were pushed on us.

 

[Stew]

But really, hip hop is different from other forms of music because you trully have to relate to the bars thats being heard. With that being the case, its hard to expect people across different genetations to relate to the same things especially with how fast shit changes in the social media era. I didnt even get to use instagram before people jumped to snapchat, and im sure now they using something else that I never even heard of.

Nope. Weak crutch ppl use.

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Y'all writing whole titangraphs and it's as simple as these lil niggas are junkies

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

Y'all writing whole titangraphs and it's as simple as these lil niggas are junkies

Let me rephrase this their "proud junkies" niggas pick up lines dead be "aye ma you pop pills what kind of drugs you do I got that molly"

 

[i ro ny]

ad rock says it the best here..
=5m47s

rap music was built on the premise of "fuck everything you're doing and fuck you, this is what i'm doing and this is whats happening".

 

[Ear2DaSt]

different era in time

different perspective

different experiences

 

[Kwan Dai]

The two won't embrace each other equally or as Stew said, respect. The old want to hang on to the old way of things and won't give the young niggas a chance and the young niggas won't respect the older heads because they diss them anyways. If you can't put differences aside to respect and embrace both sides and generations, Hip-Hop cannot grow.

Grow into what?

There is such thing as a Jazz or Blues standard as an example. While yes, there have been various interpretations of said standards those who interpret haven't attempted to change.. That is the difference. If, niggas want to bastardized Hip Hop as an art form with no standards or traditions they need to not call it Hip Hop. Find some other shit to leech onto. We have niggas riding Hip Hop's coat tails only to say "I am not a Hip Hop artist", "I'm not an MC", "I don't want to be put into a box". Well then these types need to find some other shit leech off of. You don't have Blues guitarist saying BB King wasn't shit and they don't want to be identified as a "Blues guitarist". You don't have Jazz trumpeters saying Miles wasn't shit and they don't want to be identified as a "Jazz trumpeter". This shit is happening in Hop Hip at an alarming rate. These no talent fucks buzz off of Hip Hop then about face on some "don't box me in". FOH.

 

[optimistic]

I'm cool with the divide. This shit is still a competition and was never meant to be harmonious. Too much group think mayne.

 

[Go figure]

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads